Coffee... during diet questions

[iced earth]

I'm on the "FAT FAST" right now and I was wondering if I can drink one black coffee in the morning? Also does anyone know if this diet will get rid of a little lump I have in my chest (I hope it's not bitch tit's!!!!) and what I can take to get rid of it? (anything except juice). Greatly appreciated.d ?

 

[keiko]

Coffee does have carbs--a small amount, but still.... If you're sensitive to caffine, coffee can knock you out of ketosis, but I think this is pretty rare.

 

[Mr.X]

To tell you the truth. When I was experimenting with "Fat Fast", it was more like Nightmare Fast. But, the fact is that, without coffee I probably wouldn't be able to get out of bed at ALL. So, the answer is, sure, have as much coffee as you want, just don't over do it. Keep everything within limits and you'll be fine.

Now, lumps in chest? how big? what part of your chest? and the main question... have you used steroids? (because it is a side effect of testosterone -aromatase)

P.S. it might be just a fat build up in that area
Mr.X

 

[iced earth]

I think it may be gyno, I used winnie-v about 3 years ago for six weeks. It feels like a tiny bump just above my right nipple. I hear zinc may help. could it be caused from a lot of sugar consumption? . Mr X, how were the results? and how long were you on the "FAT FAST"? THXü

 

[Mr.X]

I don't think winstrol-V would be able to cause gyno. But, it all depends on the person. I got gyno from using winstrol-V (which is very unlikely) but I have to say that it was probably due to what I used PRIOR to winstrol and the way I came off. (don't worry lumps go away as you get leaner) A lot of sugar will just make you gain Fat and that might be an indirect effect on your nipples.

Now, as far as "Fat Fast". I lost some weight but my metabolism was in the toilet. It was such a waste, (considering it was a nightmare). You can achive the SAME results, if not better, with a 'Ketonic' diet with just a 20% calorie deficit and some cardio. Results were good the first week, then my metabolism started going crazy, and from then on it was all down hill. Lost about 5lbs of fat (no muscle loss due to use of "supplements"). But, I've lost the same amount of fat in 'Ketosis', while eating 10% below my BMR, instead of killing myself with BMR-40%. Looks good on paper, but once you try it, then it doesn't look or feel as good as you thought it should have.
REMEMBER, Muscle loss is a REAL factor on "fat fast". I'm not going to flame T-Mag, but the fact that one of their "experiments" the guy used ANDRO-SPRAY (or some other bullshit supplement) and lost .5 lb of muscle while loosing 14 lbs of fat, IS TOTAL NONSENSE. REAL BULL.
Mr.X

 

[iced earth]

I forgot to mention that I use to have Soya milk with plain cheerios' for breakfast every morning. Could that have promoted an estrogen build up? THX again

 

[iced earth]

Thanks, you rule MR.X!

 

[Mr.X]

No problem.

Just do me a favor, and don't fall for the T-mag hype. They are trying to sell their ANDROSOL product (which I think, are like 40 dollars US)... In fact, in their experiment, the guy, I'm pretty sure went through about 2 bottles in about 3 weeks. So, that would make you about $80 poorer with no added benefit.

Just to back up my theory, I did order the product (4 bottles) and I did use it with "FAT FAST", at a different point in my life. Guess what, I had a 6lb muscle loss and a $90 wallet loss at the same time.
Mr.X

 

[Par Deus]

Coffee does have carbs--a small amount, but still.... If you're sensitive to caffine, coffee can knock you out of ketosis, but I think this is pretty rare.

Plain black coffee does not have carbohydrates.

The caffeine thing in regards to ketosis is also a myth. If anything, it would help deplete liver glycogen, thus establishing it more rapidly.

 

[blood_drinker]

i know, if it weren't a myth, then eca wouldn't be allowed in ckd, now would it??

 

[MS]

Strong black coffee (preferably Turkish)=good on keto diet. Like the guys said, NO carbs and helps deplete liver glycogen and mobilize those fatty acids for fuel.

The lump in your breast is most likely due to having relatively high bodyfat levels (and therefore estrogen) rather than winny. Unless your winny was counterfeit and had something like test suspension in it instead. If the lump has been there for 3 years, then it may be permanent (without surgery). If the lump is just starting to appear then some Nolvadex would be good preventative medicine.

 

[keiko]

I don't want to get into a pissing contest here ,but coffee has about .5 grams of carbs per 1 oz. Even Corinne Netzer's book, the bible of low-carbers, counts carbs in coffee.

The cafffine in the ECA stack is refined, and thus no carbs.

I think that the "coffee sensitivity knocking someone out of ketois" is rare, but when I low-carbed there were posters on the Usenet board who couldn't tolerate it.

 

[iced earth]

Cool, thanks for all your input.

 

[MS]

Yes, fresh brewed coffee has around 4 grams of carbs and 2 grams of protein per liter. That's around 1 gram carbs per cup. It is not reasonable to suggest that even a liter of coffee will dump enough carbs into your system to kick you out of ketosis. However this much caffeine is a strong diuretic, and can cause ketostix to register no ketones excreted (because of the dilution of the urine).

Aside from that, I believe the caffeine in a normal ECA stack (provided it's not guarana) is more potent than the caffeine in coffee. Potency aside, a strong cup of java is a pleasure to drink so please yourselfves how you get your caffeine fix.