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Clenbuterol or ECA

Which would you prefer to help burn fat?

  • Clenbuterol

    Votes: 81 58.3%

  • ECA

    Votes: 58 41.7%
  • Total voters
    139
I prefer ECA.. CLen seems to strip my body of muscle... I can lose about 8 lbs in a few days on clen.. ECA i just have the motivation to go bust my ass in the gym....
 
one post for ECA, but i'm the only one who voted for it?

i've had great success with ECA in the past......not so much with clen my first time.....however, i'm 8 days in my second try with a different kind of clen and i can't really make a judgement as of now.....i don't think it works on my receptors.....
 
Clen is way better than eca.. I tried eca of and on for years. Never got resutls like i did off of clen. i started out at 20mg and bumped it up ed 20mcg's till i hit 100, then my body was feeling like i was cracked out so i went back to 80. I ran it for 4 weeks too... i dont know why peps say 2 weeks. I know clen makes you lose strength though... im not 100% sure i was on a very low cal diet when on clen... so that could have been why i didnt have the energy to push the weight i normally did.
 
EC
thermorexin

clenbuterol is definitely over rated, though its first use effects can be impressive (when your a clen virgin :) ). The apoptosis of cardiac tissue that it can cause, does tend to give one pause.
 
Do both. You'll get diminishing returns on clen after 12-14 days, so drop the clen and start the ECA.
 
I like Clen. Used ECA my who life they work But some times I will crash on them and turn into a girl on her period and try to take over the world, that’s just before I sit on the computer and pout like a sissy...
 
fatdog said:
I like Clen. Used ECA my who life they work But some times I will crash on them and turn into a girl on her period and try to take over the world, that’s just before I sit on the computer and pout like a sissy...
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that's amazing
 
rake922 said:
How come Sarge?
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Mainly because I can turn it on and off (basically) unlike Clen due to it's long half life (36 hours I believe).

Clen and its effect on cardiac tissue isn't something I'd want to risk again either. ... it all comes down to Diet/Cardio and creating that daily caloric deficiet at the end of the day anyway.
 
rake922 said:
What happened!!!
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I'm one of those people who just can't use clenbuterol. It gave me bad anxiety attacks, unbelievable muscle cramps (potassium, magnesium, calcium, and taurine did nothing for this), crazy tremors, but the worst of all was my heart. It threw my heartbeat into such odd patterns that I thought I was going to have a heart attack. I mean it was adding beats here, then skipping beats there...insane I tell you. Ran Clen for a few days before deciding that it wasn't a compound for me. People might say that I was using too high of a dose, but I used, literally, 4 drops. Just not a med for me, bro.
 
sgtslaughter said:
ECA.
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me too
used it one time at work with low carb and high protein
i lost 8 lbs
in 5 weeks
not amazing you say???
people at work were guessing my loss at 25 lbs or more
i lost 3 inches on waist and gained 1/2 inch in bicept
my guess is i lost at least 16/17 lbs of fat and by getting back on the weights muscle memory and diet put on 8/9 lbs of muscle
basically swelling the muscles i used to have back to some what there old size
this wouldnt have continued , of course, but with out eca for 4/6 months after, i maintained my size and weight

i wrote down how to get and use eca for about 40 people during that time

i was doing pushups at work in an outside stairwell and got caught by a supervisor
2 weeks later i had several people doing the workout at work with me
one guy i worked with went on to lose over 30 lbs

it was great till i hurt my sholder doing pushups at the same number and intensity that i had done for months but thats another story

so any way
eca =
cheap
legal
easy to find
works
 
macrophage69alpha said:
EC
thermorexin

clenbuterol is definitely over rated, though its first use effects can be impressive (when your a clen virgin :) ). The apoptosis of cardiac tissue that it can cause, does tend to give one pause.
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fyi - just read the writeup on AF - you reccommend EC and Thermorexin, but on the site it says in big caps DO NOT USE WITH OTHER THERMOGENICS

I've always added YES to whatever other fat burners I was using (EC, Hydroxycut Hardcore, clen, whatever) - ok to add to thermorexin cycle?
 
geoboy said:
fyi - just read the writeup on AF - you reccommend EC and Thermorexin, but on the site it says in big caps DO NOT USE WITH OTHER THERMOGENICS

I've always added YES to whatever other fat burners I was using (EC, Hydroxycut Hardcore, clen, whatever) - ok to add to thermorexin cycle?
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My take on his post that EC was in front of thermorexin and/or to be cycled with, not used in conjuction.

YES is awesome with EC or Rexin'
 
EC works for me, gets me hype :)

Clen on the other hand makes my muscles flat, loss of strength, and not to mention the shakes/nervousness. I loose my cool way to easy on clen, primarily the syrup/pump....

I still do clen as a substitute for EC. I find the injectable clen is the best for results, no side effects and seems to improve spot treatment over time..
 
geoboy said:
fyi - just read the writeup on AF - you reccommend EC and Thermorexin, but on the site it says in big caps DO NOT USE WITH OTHER THERMOGENICS

I've always added YES to whatever other fat burners I was using (EC, Hydroxycut Hardcore, clen, whatever) - ok to add to thermorexin cycle?
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not together, cycled or rotated. typically 2-4 weeks of EC then 2-6 weeks of thermorexin.

yohimburn ES can be stacked with either, its compatible with Clen as well.
 
i think clen is kinda shitty, i get very tired after taking it, and i barely lose any fat from it....ECA on the other hand makes my workouts like 1090809870 times as intense
 
Ive seen some scary post about Clen on here. Do the people that have had good experiences with clen just deal with the crazy sides, that are posted on here, or do they just think they are overblown?
 
fatdog said:
I like Clen. Used ECA my who life they work But some times I will crash on them and turn into a girl on her period and try to take over the world, that’s just before I sit on the computer and pout like a sissy...
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

as for me... I prefer both... two week cycles.... eca is def more fun as the sides with clen become troublesome at times... the shakes usually get people askin me what's up... I just say too much coffee... sometimes it's almost too much!!! the headaches come and go but they aren't unbearable!! but clen is definitely the stronger of the two... makes me sweat like a mule on a hot day!!

~Papa Lion~
 
mm107 said:
eca all the way for me,

Epehdra, basically turns T4 into T3 correct? thats why i prefer eca over clen....
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Where did you read this???

Int J Obes. 1983;7(3):195-9.Links
Lowering of serum total T3 during a conventional slimming regime.
Stokholm KH, Hansen MS.

Serum concentrations of total triiodothyronine (T3) and thyroxine (T4) were determined in 28 obese out-patients before and after 12 weeks of treatment with a conventional slimming diet of 5.2 MJ (1245 kcal). Twenty-one of the patients were also given central stimulating anorectics (diethylpropion and 'Elsinore-pill' containing ephedrine). The median weight loss was 8.1 kg (range 0.4-19.1 kg). After the treatment a small, but significant (P less than 0.02), fall in serum T3 could be demonstrated whilst serum T4 was unaffected. The median fall in T3 in percentage of pretreatment value was 9 per cent (96 per cent confidence limits: 4-16 per cent).
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does anyone know if clen messes with your breathing or not?

I read that it is for asthma victims and should help with cardio.....

Then, conversely, I read that it can have an adverse effect on cardio....anyone know which is true as this a very important aspect of my training....if my cardio goes to shit, I don't care how much weight I lose on it.....not worth it.
 
Nomadic Dreamer said:
does anyone know if clen messes with your breathing or not?

I read that it is for asthma victims and should help with cardio.....

Then, conversely, I read that it can have an adverse effect on cardio....anyone know which is true as this a very important aspect of my training....if my cardio goes to shit, I don't care how much weight I lose on it.....not worth it.
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It helps with breathing and gives you energy as it's a stimulant and it is an asthma medication. However, from my personal experience, the side affects can be so bad that it can stop you from having a good workout. You have to dose it intelligently and also, I would not suggest doing cardio or weight lifting right after taking a dose. I'd give it a few hours for the side affects to cool down. Everybody reacts differently though so the only way to know is to try it. Some love it and some hate it.

ECA is safer and more predictable.
 
ConanX said:
It helps with breathing and gives you energy as it's a stimulant and it is an asthma medication. However, from my personal experience, the side affects can be so bad that it can stop you from having a good workout. You have to dose it intelligently and also, I would not suggest doing cardio or weight lifting right after taking a dose. I'd give it a few hours for the side affects to cool down. Everybody reacts differently though so the only way to know is to try it. Some love it and some hate it.

ECA is safer and more predictable.
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Thanks...

I have some ECA on hand too so that works.
 
Transdermal clen :) All the benefits, none of the sides. You can add liquid clen to many of the OTC fatburners available now for an easy delivery system e.g. DermaTherm Target, Eviscerate, Napalm etc.
 
ConanX said:
It helps with breathing and gives you energy as it's a stimulant and it is an asthma medication. However, from my personal experience, the side affects can be so bad that it can stop you from having a good workout. You have to dose it intelligently and also, I would not suggest doing cardio or weight lifting right after taking a dose. I'd give it a few hours for the side affects to cool down. Everybody reacts differently though so the only way to know is to try it. Some love it and some hate it.

ECA is safer and more predictable.
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Do you know if it still works the same several hours after you take your dose?
 
I'd go the cleviscerate method. Dosing clen orally I found myself to wake up at night with awful dry mouth even though I was drinking gallons of water.
 
Did clenvis. Its really burningfull haha. I got some oral now and i enjoy it. I actually dont mind the shakes. Just tells me its doing what its supposed to. Only thing is when you pin and your on clen and you shake a little bit. It causes some problems heh.
 
I like Clen for fat loss, I do a week on week off alternating with ECA.

Only downside is I feel REALLY FLAT when using Clen

Can give you bad cramps also, but supplementing with Taurine is supposed to stop this
 
Albuterol + Sarms Stack amazing result slol your rat will love itttt :) jsut make sure to have a PCT of Unleashed/postcycle on hand
 
Jack steel said:
Fuck all that shit and get some SS GW. Trust me ;) maybe stack albuterol with it.
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+1

Greatest Combo Ever!
Add SARM stack, and you have a whole cycle together. My rats are now on all of them from beginning of this week, and tell me they are very gratefull that I began giving Osta and S-4 to them. ;-)

Sent from my GT-I9300 using EliteFitness
 
Can someone please advise me to where I can purchase Clen & T3 online? Any legit sites out there???

BTW, I have been on Clen & T3 before many yrs ago, but can't find any legit stuff online anymore.... Need to lose just a few more lbs...

Any help is appreciated! Thank you!
 
^^^^probably should read the rules. This isn't an open source board.
 
ava75 said:
Can someone please advise me to where I can purchase Clen & T3 online? Any legit sites out there???

BTW, I have been on Clen & T3 before many yrs ago, but can't find any legit stuff online anymore.... Need to lose just a few more lbs...

Any help is appreciated! Thank you!
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