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Clenbuterol - Best u have used for getting ripped?

How Good is clenbuterol for shredding up

  • Didn't do much for me

    Votes: 89 20.7%

  • Pretty good about same as fat burners etc

    Votes: 169 39.4%

  • Simply Awesome! Will SHRED you!!

    Votes: 163 38.0%
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shimmy825 said:
I've tried Clen and T3 three times, and all three times I never really saw any great results from it. (three different sources, mind you) Of all the fat burners I've done, the one I had the best experience with is the LIPO 6, about a year and a half ago. Aslo, can anyone on here give a little more info about the ECA stack?
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Clen and T3 is not a perfect combination, and if your receptors downregulate and CNS doesn't respond it wont produce the perfect results. Also, note the side-effects of clenbuterol don't show for everyone, meaning you might be getting good results but no obvious sides; such as shakes or sweating, this depends on your CNS response.
 
I used Clenbuterol in the early '90's when it was about all I could get. I remember having to ramp up doses to get accustomed to the sides, hand tremors, rapid heartbeat, etc. The sides went way down after a while though. I tried it years later and I was much more sensitive to it, so maybe age plays a factor too.

My question is this, I take a beta-blocker (atenolol) for high blood pressure. I also take an alpha-blocker (clonidine). How does Clenbuterol or Ephedrine interact with these? Are there dangers lurking here beyond the obvious? I know I probably shouldn't be messing with these things with high BP, but I was thinking of going back to ephedrine for a pre-workout drug cause nothing seems to work as well as the old Dymetadrine 25's I used to take. Clen also helped me to cut up pretty good too. Though I didn't seem to gain any muscle from it. Anyone?
 
you will be playing with fire if youre already taking meds for high BP. Cardio and diet. Leave the stims alone. Not worth the risk brother. stay safe.
 
1500 said:
you will be playing with fire if youre already taking meds for high BP. Cardio and diet. Leave the stims alone. Not worth the risk brother. stay safe.
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Thanks 1500. I know you are right in being cautious. Its just that nothing gave me as intense of workouts as ephedrine used to and I need a real bump in my training. I can't seem to find the energy I used to have. I was going to ramp up very slowly and closely monitor the pressure. I'm not sure what to expect using a beta-blocker with a beta agonist. I'm afraid they might interact and contradict each other.

Does anyone know how an NO supplement might interact with alpha and beta blocking medication? I can't find anything on it.
 
centeroiler said:
I used Clenbuterol in the early '90's when it was about all I could get. I remember having to ramp up doses to get accustomed to the sides, hand tremors, rapid heartbeat, etc. The sides went way down after a while though. I tried it years later and I was much more sensitive to it, so maybe age plays a factor too.

My question is this, I take a beta-blocker (atenolol) for high blood pressure. I also take an alpha-blocker (clonidine). How does Clenbuterol or Ephedrine interact with these? Are there dangers lurking here beyond the obvious? I know I probably shouldn't be messing with these things with high BP, but I was thinking of going back to ephedrine for a pre-workout drug cause nothing seems to work as well as the old Dymetadrine 25's I used to take. Clen also helped me to cut up pretty good too. Though I didn't seem to gain any muscle from it. Anyone?
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It's not a good idea to mess around with any stimulants with you have high BP. You're going to have to do your best without clenbuterol or ephedrine.
 
The delete button was pressed prematurely on that clen thread.
Ooh well

Anyway as I was saying clen has a similar action to epinephrine (adrenaline). Metabolism is enhanced , but protein metabolism is infact reduced.

Effects of epinephrine on human muscle glucose and protein metabolism -- Fryburg et al. 268 (1): E55 -- AJP - Endocrinology and Metabolism

Effects of epinephrine on human muscle glucose and protein metabolism

D. A. Fryburg, R. A. Gelfand, L. A. Jahn, D. Oliveras, R. S. Sherwin, L. Sacca and E. J. Barrett
Department of Internal Medicine, University of Virginia Health Science Center, Charlottesville 22908.

Systemic epinephrine infusion causes hypoaminoacidemia and inhibits whole body leucine flux (proteolysis) in humans. Its specific action on muscle protein is not known and is difficult to assess during systemic epinephrine infusions, which affect plasma insulin, amino acid, and free fatty acid concentrations. During a steady-state infusion of L-[ring-2,6-3H]phenylalanine, we examined the effect of locally infused epinephrine on the metabolism of protein and glucose in forearm muscle of 10 healthy human volunteers. During local epinephrine infusion, systemic concentrations of glucose, phenylalanine, insulin, and epinephrine were unchanged and lactate declined (P < 0.02). Compared with baseline, epinephrine induced significant increases in forearm blood flow (P < 0.01) and net lactate release (P < 0.001) and a decrease in glucose uptake (P < 0.01) at both 2 and 4 h. At 2 and 4 h phenylalanine release from muscle proteolysis was suppressed (P < 0.01), and at 4 h the net phenylalanine balance was less negative than baseline (P < 0.02), indicating an anticatabolic effect on muscle protein. We conclude that in human forearm muscle epinephrine, at physiological concentrations, has a catabolic effect on muscle glycogen but an anticatabolic action on muscle protein. The mechanism of this latter effect is not known.
 
No need to bump these pre-historic threads.
 
gjohnson5 said:
The delete button was pressed prematurely on that clen thread.
Ooh well

Anyway as I was saying clen has a similar action to epinephrine (adrenaline). Metabolism is enhanced , but protein metabolism is infact reduced.

Effects of epinephrine on human muscle glucose and protein metabolism -- Fryburg et al. 268 (1): E55 -- AJP - Endocrinology and Metabolism

Effects of epinephrine on human muscle glucose and protein metabolism

D. A. Fryburg, R. A. Gelfand, L. A. Jahn, D. Oliveras, R. S. Sherwin, L. Sacca and E. J. Barrett
Department of Internal Medicine, University of Virginia Health Science Center, Charlottesville 22908.

Systemic epinephrine infusion causes hypoaminoacidemia and inhibits whole body leucine flux (proteolysis) in humans. Its specific action on muscle protein is not known and is difficult to assess during systemic epinephrine infusions, which affect plasma insulin, amino acid, and free fatty acid concentrations. During a steady-state infusion of L-[ring-2,6-3H]phenylalanine, we examined the effect of locally infused epinephrine on the metabolism of protein and glucose in forearm muscle of 10 healthy human volunteers. During local epinephrine infusion, systemic concentrations of glucose, phenylalanine, insulin, and epinephrine were unchanged and lactate declined (P < 0.02). Compared with baseline, epinephrine induced significant increases in forearm blood flow (P < 0.01) and net lactate release (P < 0.001) and a decrease in glucose uptake (P < 0.01) at both 2 and 4 h. At 2 and 4 h phenylalanine release from muscle proteolysis was suppressed (P < 0.01), and at 4 h the net phenylalanine balance was less negative than baseline (P < 0.02), indicating an anticatabolic effect on muscle protein. We conclude that in human forearm muscle epinephrine, at physiological concentrations, has a catabolic effect on muscle glycogen but an anticatabolic action on muscle protein. The mechanism of this latter effect is not known.
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very good article :)
 
quick question...i know its necessary to ramp up the clen dosage to assess tolerance (at least in novice users) but is it necessary to ramp down, or do you stay at whatever dose you are at until you finish the cycle?
 
how much benadryl should you take while cycling? i am thinking about taking 75mg each night while running the clen for 3-4 weeks
 
and what kind of diet is best to implement with the clen? ive heard low carb is the most effective. would a 50/20/30 pro/carb/fat breakdown be good, and im thinking about 10x bodyweight in calories
 
badsanta488 said:
and what kind of diet is best to implement with the clen? ive heard low carb is the most effective. would a 50/20/30 pro/carb/fat breakdown be good, and im thinking about 10x bodyweight in calories
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You might want to post this in the diet section as well. I will be honest there is a lot more guys that know the diet perspective better then I.
 
eClenbuterol said:
If you need help with the Clenbuterol cycle let me know or if you need some goos articles on it I have those as well.
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thanks bro, i will PM you with my ideas on the cycle, and if you could send me some articles about it that would be great. im always trying to find info on clen, but can't find much besides the various forum threads ive already seen
 
badsanta488 said:
thanks bro, i will PM you with my ideas on the cycle, and if you could send me some articles about it that would be great. im always trying to find info on clen, but can't find much besides the various forum threads ive already seen
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I will be getting that info for you later on today (:
 
Hey e. One of your threads has a fat burning stack of clen/T3/nlova/chlomid. Why the nolva/chlomid and how does that work to burn fat?
 
hey guys so im getting ready for a contest im 16 weeks out about 9%, im 5'11 190, i have a old bottle of liq. clen and didnt want it togo to waste so i wanted to use it. Im wanting to try it 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. Do you guys have any good cycles in mind. i fimilar with the 1 week on 1 off but not sure with 2 weeks. So heres what i was thinking 50,50,75,75,100,100,100,75,75,50,50 week 2 75,75,100,100,120,120,120, 2 WEEKS OFF, then repeat week2 , then repeat week 1 as i taper down let me no ur ideas. IDK how the 2 weeks thing goes i saw some ppl taper down on there 2nd week so im like?? thanks
j
 
agreed.. Diet & Cardio are KEY in losing fat.. Though it's always hard to stay on a clean diet with no cheating =P ..but hard work pays off
 
 
Clen from Bulgaria (forgot the name) w/ t3 = the shit!! Only things is it makes me really really tense & keeps me on edge!!!
 
The old ephedrene/asprin/caffine stack worked best for me--the last clen I tried made me feel like my head was gonna explode!
 
eClenbuterol said:
That's probably because your dosage was too high and you were dehydrated, it's a bad combination for clen users.
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What's the highest dosage you recommend? I am now up to 120mcg but I think I may up it tomorrow since I am less shaky and dont have a headache today.
 
ConanX said:
What's the highest dosage you recommend? I am now up to 120mcg but I think I may up it tomorrow since I am less shaky and dont have a headache today.
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Remember, CNS response to Clen varies from person to person, and it's best not to overdose something because you're not getting cliche side effects. I suggest you stay at that dosage and don't go higher, there is no need to max our your receptors. :)
 
shimmy825 said:
I've tried Clen and T3 three times, and all three times I never really saw any great results from it. (three different sources, mind you) Of all the fat burners I've done, the one I had the best experience with is the LIPO 6, about a year and a half ago. Aslo, can anyone on here give a little more info about the ECA stack?
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Ephedrine 25mg, caffeine 200 mg and a baby asprin--just hard to find real pure ephedrine now thanks to the meth heads
 
hey guys I'm 24 yrs old. 220lbs. 5'7.

I need to lose weight.. been doing Cardio/Dieting. Can I use T3 + Clen to aid my weight loss problem?
 
I need some advice on how to cycle t3 and clen. My diet is good and my cardio is perfect. Im 240lbs and want to lose 40lbs in 16 week of training. e-clen could you please give me some advice because i need the help of a professional.
 
ftwjason said:
Ephedrine 25mg, caffeine 200 mg and a baby asprin--just hard to find real pure ephedrine now thanks to the meth heads
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Ephedrine is caffeine I'm for but I wouldn't take aspirin daily unless you really need it, there are some studies being done on the serious negative sides.:D
 
I have a quick newb question.. When lifters cut do they generally do lighter weight and higher reps during this part of their routine?
 
I take human grade Clenbuterol from Bohringer-Ingelheim at 250mcg. I'm a heavyweight, so that's what it takes for me to feel sides. Actually, the first time I took Clenbuterol, I rapidly lost about 5 pounds, then the weightloss stopped. Cramping was awful for the first week that I took it, but after that, it wasn't so bad. I've been taking it for 2 months straight with Ketotifen. My body is highly resistant to weight loss, and Clenbuterol isn't actually helping me much at all. I maintain a strict diet and work out 7 days a week and usually just maintain weight. Clenbuterol, however, is known to increase feed efficiency. It's supposed to increase muscle and decrease fat at the same time. Whether it's doing that or not I can't actually say. What I will say is that Ephedra w/ Caffeine is superior in the fact that it completely destroys my appetite. Once I take 24mg of Ephedra and 200mg of Caffeine, I can practically go the whole day without eating any food. This allows me to choose much healthier food to eat, and it lets me choose when I want to eat.
 
eClenbuterol said:
broncopulmin is not widely available, I doubt guys have used it on the forums. ;)
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thats about all we get here in oz. its very common here. u guys got it easy for suppliments. on another note....on the tub it says it is 14.1ug/g??? i thought it was measured in doses of mg/g???? can u shed some light on what the ug is? we worked it out to be 3.3 gram per teaspoon so 2.5 teaspoons should give us the 116.3 grams of clen?
 
ozcroboy said:
thats about all we get here in oz. its very common here. u guys got it easy for suppliments. on another note....on the tub it says it is 14.1ug/g??? i thought it was measured in doses of mg/g???? can u shed some light on what the ug is? we worked it out to be 3.3 gram per teaspoon so 2.5 teaspoons should give us the 116.3 grams of clen?
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You are positive it is real? There seems to be a ton of fakes in AU and I'm reserved when talking dosages because of possibility of fakes/overdoses etc...
 
I tried it twice but never finished a cycle its just too much for me I felt like a total piece of shit when on even at a low dose

I like the eca stack better
 
eClenbuterol said:
You are positive it is real? There seems to be a ton of fakes in AU and I'm reserved when talking dosages because of possibility of fakes/overdoses etc...
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yeah its vet stuff. all labelled etc. his other mate tried it at 2.5 teaspoons 2 days on 2 days off for 6 weeks and lost 5 kgs so say its legit
 
bjc227 said:
I tried it twice but never finished a cycle its just too much for me I felt like a total piece of shit when on even at a low dose

I like the eca stack better
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You might have been high dosing it. CNS response varies from individual to individual, some respond better to albuterol then clen, some the other way around.
 
Anthony Roberts said:
If you're going to use clen, try adding some T3 with it (that will help upregulate your beta receptors).

Benadryl will work for that too, and I always tell people never to take Clen without taking some benadryl before bed each night also.

Why?

As you know, Benadryl, at around 50-100mgs/night before bed (every 3rd week or so, for that week) will help with keeping your beta-receptors working properly. Beta receptors are embedded in the cell's outer phospholipid membrane. The stability of the membrane has a lot to do with the proper function of the receptors.

Methylation of the phospholipids is stimulated by the binding of beta agonists to their receptors. Methylated phospholipids are foreign to the body, and when the body recognizes tham as foreign, it breaks them down with phospholipase A2. This changes the structure of the outer membrane which results in desensitizaton of the beta receptors. On the other hand, agents that inhibit phospholipase A2 slow desensitization.

Cationic ampiphylic drugs are known for their ability to inhibit phospholipase A2. Benadryl (diphenhydramine) is a cationic ampiphylic drug.

Ergo, Benadryl slows desensitization of Beta receptors (i.e. Upgrades them) by inhibiting phospholipase A2, which is the enzyme that breaks down methylated phospholipids, and this action in turn keeps the phospholipid membrane stable, and thus keeps the receptors functioning properly.

This will allow you to use clen for much longer and it'll still have the same effects. Also, since Benadryl is an anti-histamine, and histamines have a direct effect on beta-adrenoreceptors (not just Beta-2?s but all of them), using an anti-histamine will have a direct effect on reducing beta-receptor stimulation, and thus upregulating your beta-receptors.

In addition, many athletes have issues sleeping while on clen, and Benadryl before bed can help with that.

Finally, stimulants are well known to cause Anxiety in some, and clenbuterol is a stimulant; Benadryl is widely prescribed as an OTC anti-anxiety medication, when people go to emergency rooms with classic panic attack/anxiety symptoms.

SO using benadryl with your clen will upgrade your receptors, help you sleep, and avert stimulant based anxiety.
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hmmm
 
Anthony Roberts said:
I did a poll on two different boards asking people who've tried it if it worked for them...99% of the people who responded said it worked...

If you google clen + benadryl + hooker (my old handle- and the benadryl thing is my own original idea....so you'll get more hits if you include "hooker" in your search), you'll see alot of people on alot of boards have had success with my method(s)... :coffee:
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Isn't messing with T3 dangerous?
 
I just ordered Clen for a 12 week cycle.Question i have is i am 18 is this age ok to take clen?Ive dont research and hasn't said anything about age
 
you should get in shape before using any stimulent as this taxes the heart and nervous system. i would not use anything at 18,you are young enough to do that.
lay off sweets,drink a protein shake and eat clean wholesome foods.

I suggest that you visit the diet forum here on elite.
 
I'm on my second week of Clen and I think i've been progressing in weight loss. I'm on a strict low calorie diet and cardio almost everyday.

Effects:
Skin feels hotter (I think atleast)
Nervous for certain things
Cramps in my feet when Im lying in bed(I get cramps in my feet often but with clen it is improved)

Cycle has been with Jinan200mg tablets

day1: 40
day2: 80
day3: 80
day4: 120
day5: 120
day6: 120
day7: 80
day 8: 120
day 9: 160

Yes, im very resistant to drugs and alkohol that's why it's 'high'

But should I sweat? Im just abit warmer but nothing else I think :P
 
Shttttttt! don't tell anyone but i have a discount for EF members\:)

RADAR
 
eClenbuterol said:
clen works great with a good dialed in diet
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My diet is in check, i've been doing 20/30/50 fat/carb/protein for the last 5 months and have been getting good results. I'm planning on adding clen in my last 3 weeks of my current cycle and run it straight into pct for a total of 6 weeks.
I've done clen several times before, sometimes getting goods and other times bad results. Always done 2on 2off, but this time will add ketotifen to my cycle to be able to run it longer. Below is my clen dosage, can you help me with Ketotifen dosage and time of dosage? Also, if i should change anything on my clen dosage?

40/40/40/80/80/80/80
120/120/120/120/120/120
120/120/120/120/120/120
120/120/120/120/120/120
120/120/120/120/120/120
80/80/80/80/40/40/40

Also, i've heard ketotifen will make you hungry, is this true? i'm cutting so making me hungry is really not a good idea. Will benadryl make me hungry too?

Thanks
 
cmagdy119 said:
My diet is in check, i've been doing 20/30/50 fat/carb/protein for the last 5 months and have been getting good results. I'm planning on adding clen in my last 3 weeks of my current cycle and run it straight into pct for a total of 6 weeks.
I've done clen several times before, sometimes getting goods and other times bad results. Always done 2on 2off, but this time will add ketotifen to my cycle to be able to run it longer. Below is my clen dosage, can you help me with Ketotifen dosage and time of dosage? Also, if i should change anything on my clen dosage?

40/40/40/80/80/80/80
120/120/120/120/120/120
120/120/120/120/120/120
120/120/120/120/120/120
120/120/120/120/120/120
80/80/80/80/40/40/40

Also, i've heard ketotifen will make you hungry, is this true? i'm cutting so making me hungry is really not a good idea. Will benadryl make me hungry too?

Thanks
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Ketotifen will make some hungry benadryl doesn't but it will make you drowzy
 
Ive used clen... It worked best for me on a 2 week on/off for 6 weeks total. lost 7% body fat. Bad for the heart. Expands the heart valves, causes heart murrmers. Ill be using anavar from now on.
 
Here's an article I read from a doctor on clen usage....He said if dosed properly, there is no evidence of side effects from clen, but he also didn't rule it out completely. He also said that anything over 100 mcg's is risky when it comes to heart attacks, etc.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/549131/

Is it necessary to go that high, or can you run an 80 mcg or two 40 mcg tablets per day?

Also, can you take them separately? Or should you take all the pills in one gulp? Perhaps one in the morning, then one in the afternoon but before the evening?
 
RADAR said:
Shttttttt! don't tell anyone but i have a discount for EF members\:)

RADAR
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I have a code too :D

If any of you bros need help setting up a clen cycle or would like a discount on any of eclen's products let me know!
 
thatbloke said:
never found clen that fantastic

stuff does work but i found it gave more side effects then it did for results

personaly wouldnt use it again
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+1 plus i feel like shit and dont wanna do cardio on it..
 
I got some sides from clen shakes, heart felt like it was pounding at times, and I got bad cramps. I almost had a hernia during a heavy squat session however I am not sure if that because of the clen or not, never came close to having one before, before trying clen. However, my results were pretty significant. 4% bf loss and 2.5in off my waist in about 9 weeks.
 
Artigo said:
4% bf loss and 2.5in off my waist in about 9 weeks.
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Unless you were at 10% bf or less to begin with, that is not significant bf loss for 9 weeks.

I'm on clen now and it makes me feel way more energetic[so I work out more] and is a decent appetite suppressant. To me those are the only noticeable benefits.
 
JAKE-PATRIOTS said:
Unless you were at 10% bf or less to begin with, that is not significant bf loss for 9 weeks.

I'm on clen now and it makes me feel way more energetic[so I work out more] and is a decent appetite suppressant. To me those are the only noticeable benefits.
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Felt pretty significant to me, but I guess not. If it means anything I didn't lose any strength (or muscle I think) in fact I improved on a few lifts while cutting and on clen.
 
Artigo said:
Felt pretty significant to me, but I guess not. If it means anything I didn't lose any strength (or muscle I think) in fact I improved on a few lifts while cutting and on clen.
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I did not mean to denigrate your accomplishment! I just meant that those results are probably more attributable to your hard work and discipline in diet than the clen.
 
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