Clen vs Ephedrine

[mongogerry1]

Which do you like better as a stimulant and fat burner, factoring in sides.

 

[ke 20]

cant stand the shakes with clen

 

[muscleup]

Ephedra

 

[Boston Strangler]

anyone remember Ephedra-ject power shots????

 

[fonixer]

clen shakes suck ephedrine hcl always seems to give me a slight bit of eurphria
But the crash sucks 4 me

 

[Extra_Strong]

ephedrine makes me feel so damn good...Fuck Yea
Clen saves my muscles when cutting

 

[mongogerry1]

Which do you like better as a stimulant and fat burner, factoring in sides.

Bump

 

[Illuminati]

can't stand the muscle cramps with clen, but if you were to choose between the two, go with clen

 

[DIVISION]

can't stand the muscle cramps with clen, but if you were to choose between the two, go with clen

If you are taking 400MG Potassium ed you won't have the cramps.




DIV

 

[Illuminati]

If you are taking 400MG Potassium ed you won't have the cramps.




DIV

true

 

[ElMatador]

clen...

 

[swordfish151]

ephedrine is good...but i like clen alot better...taurine and 1 - 1.5 gallons of water and cramps are not an issue

 

[sprinter86]

Clen for me... I can live with the moderate sides

 

[Dieselgoku23]

I bought some clen and never done it before or I have ever done any ephedra either!!!!!. Any of you know if you start to cut down with clen if you would lose significant amount of muscle while cutting?

 

[JThompson24]

just wandered if anyone that took original metrx could tell it had clen and if they had any side effects

 

[Themachine01]

ephedrine HCL is definately my favorite, I see the best results and least sides.

 

[FlexManning]

Some say clen is overrated due to Duchaine's initial enthusiasm with the drug. He saw some studies done on animals and felt it had some anabolic effects. Unfortunately most of this didn't pan out in humans. Sure, it's still a great fatburner, but whether it's the greatest thing since sliced bread I can't say. I've found that there isn't as great a crash with clen, but Christ, the appetite suppression and energy boost are non-existent.

Ideally there would be a compound that could be rotated with ephedrine that would help with some of the withdrawal. Cold-turkeying ephedrine to rotate clen is rather unpleasant.

 

[beefcake28]

I have never tried Clen, but I have used my fair share of Ephedrine... I love the stuff, except the crashes really suck when you come down from it...

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

If you are taking 400MG Potassium ed you won't have the cramps.




DIV

good to know

 

[cricket]

eca

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

I've tried ephedrine for a long time and think its ok....I get insomnia from time to time and get dizzy spells from time to time as well.

I tried clen a few years back and didn't notice much, but I wasn't doing it right, I believe. I'm going to give clen another try because the ephedrine I was taking made me feel like shit. Short of breath, dizzy and anxious. The anxiety could be from just being stressed out all the time, but it was not helping with my training whatsoever.

 

[supplier]

80-120mcg ED Clebuterol + Ketotiphene + Pottasium + Taurine

Ketotiphne will prolong time of clen effectivity
Potassium+ Taurine+ Water hydratation will prevent you from cramps

Dont use Clenbuterol close to your workouts....its interefering with your breathing and can decrease your performance.

Shift to T3+ECA stack after 3 weeks...send me PM i can send u stacking table.

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

"Dont use Clenbuterol close to your workouts....its interefering with your breathing and can decrease your performance."

this is different from what I've heard or read. what is your opinion on when to take it?

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

80-120mcg ED Clebuterol + Ketotiphene + Pottasium + Taurine

Ketotiphne will prolong time of clen effectivity
Potassium+ Taurine+ Water hydratation will prevent you from cramps

Dont use Clenbuterol close to your workouts....its interefering with your breathing and can decrease your performance.

Shift to T3+ECA stack after 3 weeks...send me PM i can send u stacking table.

I heard T3 was very dangerous.

 

[ConanX]

Ephedrine is great as a pre-workout stimulant and a fat burner. It really does the job well, gives you insane amounts of energy, makes you sweat and burn fat like crazy, and is liveable for normal use, like going to work, etc.

Clenbuterol is a little more hardcore. When dosed correctly, you will be shaking uncontrolably. I did find fat burning was a little better with Clen and maybe it hops you up more, but the shakes you get from it are too much and you look like you have Parkinsons. I also found it negatively affected my performance in the gym. I would sometimes feel too tweaked out or my heart would be pounding too hard or too irregularly for me to even continue through a workout. I pushed through because I wanted the fat loss...

So I do like both Clen and Ephedrine. But side affects included and as a pre-workout stim, Ephedrine kicks ass. Plus it is legal and can be bought at CVS (bronkaide). Make sure you dose it 25mg Ephedrine, 200mg Caffeine, and 81mg Aspirin (aspirin is optional).

What I do though is 2.5 weeks Clen (doses get ramped up to about 200mcg, depending how much I can handle), 2.5 weeks ECA stack, repeat.

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

any other compounds in the mix conan?

 

[OCNBlitz]

Surprised all the responses of people saying ECA is better. I've been using ECA on every cutting cycle and Haven't noticed anything tremendous (each cycle upping the dose to 75 mg/600mg a day), and the cycle lasting one month in total.

I have yet to try Clen but I am ordering it right now. (I've also ordered two bottles of Taurine)

 

[needtogetaas]

ephedrine makes me feel so damn good...Fuck Yea
Clen saves my muscles when cutting[/QUOTE]

But if one knows how to cycle and run ephedrine the right way it can and will do the same thing. Something that clen has only been proven to do in Animal testing using doses that if translated to human use would kill any man large or small.

The studies done on clen showing that it had Anti catabolic effects were done using cows and using doses so High it would put 3 men to death let alone one.

However http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...drine-ephedrine-profile-ephedrine-742075.html

Ephedrine will help retain muscle protein stores when dosed closer together. Studies using as little as 8-10mg with 100mg of Caffeine 6 times daily have shows this to be true.

 

[Regking06]

I did 3 weeks of clenbuterol intensive, my disage everyday was 900 mcg and that made me melt completly without loosibg muscle i never had any abs before and after that 3 weeks i had 25 pounds lost and i had my abs. Completly defined, but i swear to god i was shaking as hell, and my head was hurting incredibly at begining!

 

[thedarkhalf]

It's a toss up for me as far as side effects go.

Clen gives me some nasty muscle spasms and not a fan of the heart enlargement

Ephedra you have to taper off of...if you don't you'll be in a daze for a few days after ceasing the dosages

 

[notjake11]

Albuterol

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[bbock7272]

Does anyone have an ephedra supplier? I havn't been able to find some in a long time and I stopped using things like broncaid. Let me know.

 

[ALIN]

Which do you like better as a stimulant and fat burner, factoring in sides.

For me,,,without question,,,CLENBUTEROL.