clen for weightloss

[st980]

New here...Thought this would be a good place to get some feedback...

Interested in taking clenbuterol... Know of some people who have and have had good results...

What is a typical cycle for woman to be on and for how long?
Any side effects I should know about?
After how long would you start seeing results?

Appreciate your help!

 

[Ceebs]

I was not impressed with clen the one time I took it - it didn't do anything for me weight loss wise that an ECA stack with the same diet and training couldn't have done.

It also made me bitchy and jittery, and it greatly decreases leptin in some users - which explains the extreme hunger pangs people report on it.

Some people swear by it though, so chalk it up to your mileage may vary. A typical cycle is two weeks on, two weeks off, for no more than 12 weeks overall - the adrenoreceptors clen stimulates attenuate very quickly, so much longer or more frequent than this is pointless. Keep your water intake up.

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Before you think of taking what are you current stats diet and training like? Clen is not the magic pill all this needs to be in order before you consider takin it.

 

[sexkitten]

i took clen for my first time, in liquid form, a half dropper in the morning and then in the early afternoon. i am off for a afew more days then im starting again, but i definately noticed a difference. i lst about 2-3 pounds in the past 2 weeks just frim trying it and oing cardio about 3 times a week. starting next weeki am stacking it with anavar, to start my real workout. i heard that leads to great results.

 

[Puddles]

I've used clen a few times and was happy with the results. If you're going to use clen you should also supplement with taurine, potassium and a good cal/mag. supplement too. Keep your water intake up too.

Side effects can be hand tremmors (I always get those), muscle cramps (taking the above supplements should help avoid those), headaches, heart palpatations, insomnia, and probably some others I'm forgetting.

Most people use it for 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off (it looses it's effectiveness after 2-3 weeks so it won't do any good to stay on). You should gradually increase the doseage over the first 5 days to your max and then stick with that until you're done.

I don't know when you start seeing results. The scale has daily ups and downs for me, so I just look at it after 2 weeks and usually see a 2-5 lb. loss.

 

[sexkitten]

mrs.puddles, were u taking the pills or liquid?? i was just interested on what ur maximum intake ona daily basis was..

 

[jyummy]

I had great results with clen. Lost a lot of fat and was able to maintain a lot of muscle. But I had very bad sides with it: very jittery (I even had problems typing on a keyboard), crazy cramps I've never felt before, and the headaches were the worst! Just the headaches alone makes me not want to bother with the stuff ever again. Just my experience.

 

[Fantômas]

When is the best time to take it (scheduling doses)? Right now I take an ECA stack before cardio in the am and at lunch, but I have heard mention that you shouldn't take clen before cardio? Better after?

 

[Puddles]

mrs.puddles, were u taking the pills or liquid?? i was just interested on what ur maximum intake ona daily basis was..

I've used both but I prefer the tabs because they're just easier to carry around and dose very accurately. Right now I've got liquid and about a month ago I was overdosing and wound up with such awful cramping during training I had to stop...I was up to 80mg/day and that was too much for my body. Previously 50-60mg/day was fine though, the only cramping I got was in my calves, usually at night and it wasn't really bad. I've started taking the supplements I mentioned above in preparation for starting up another clen cycle this week...hoping to be able to avoid cramping this time.

The dosing should be spread out over the course of the day, NOT taken all at one time! You could start out with 10mg in the morning, 10mg early afternoon on day 1. Then 10 mg. in the morning, 10mg around 11, then 10mg around 4pm on day 2. 10mg morning, 10 at 10am, 10 at 2pm, 10 at 4 for day 3, etc. Just increase it by 10mg/day until you're at 50 or 60 for that first week and see how you feel. If you can tollerate another dose or two, go for it. If the sides increase too much, cut back.

One other side I could mention is that some people are very agitated or grouchy while on clen.


Below is a GREAT post about clen I'm copying from another board.

"Clen FAQ by BigAndy69

Clenbuterol FAQ: Everything you need to know about Clen

I wrote this because of all the confusion that surrounds this drug. Enjoy.

What is Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other CNS stimulants like ephedrine. Contrary to popular belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35 hours and not 48 hours.

Dosing and Cycling

Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump and injectable form. Doses are very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere in the range of 5-8 tablets per day for men and 1-4 tablets a day for women is most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after 6-8 weeks when body temperature drops back to normal. It's anabolic/anti-catabolic properties fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into consideration, the most effective way of cycling clen is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine can be used in the off weeks.

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs DNP

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of DNP raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

DNP is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine short half life prevents it from being all that effective.

As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than DNP's, and some would even say milder than an ECA stack. There is no ECA-style crash on Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This may in part be due to the fact that Clen is generally used for only 2 weeks at a time.

Side effects

NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN

The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and increased blood pressure.

Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming bananas and oranges or supplementing with GNC potassium tablets at 200-400mg a day taken before bed on an empty stomach.

Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taken at the first signs of a headache. You may need to take double the recommended dose.

Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clen is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most popular use for Clen, it also increases muscle hardness, vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant fat loss, Clen can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clen.

Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be used by non AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an ECA stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clen, Carbs must be included in the diet. Keto diet do not work well in this case.

Precautions: Is Clen for you?

The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clen, although some people find ECA stacks harsher than Clen. It should not be stacked with other CNS stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation before a workout for an extra kick, although its diuretic effects may shift electrolyte balance. Drink more water if you use Caffeine.

What else do I need to know?

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day.

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to normal gradually)
Day14: 60mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100mcg
Day14: 80mcg
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: ECA/ NYC stack

Do not take Clen Past 4pm and drink plenty of water: 1.5-2 gallons a day.

All brands are not equal when it comes to Clen, different brands will yield different results.

That about covers everything."

 

[sexkitten]

the clen im taking is 125mcg/ml - 60ml vial, and i was taking half a dropper in the morning and half at around 2 pm. i never upped the dosage for those first two weeks, but by the end i was feelin no effects of it except not being able to sleep. the trembling and everything else went away. i think for my next 2week cycle im gonna do half and half 1st day, and they 3/4am 2/4pm. and see how that works out.