Clen and its effects on me keeping muscle? Contest prep. Ulter, Rader, satch?

[musclehealth]

I will be doing a contest prep cycle soon. My diet is 200% on check.Radar helped me get it setup perfect...

Test prop/ Tren ace 100/100 week 1-7 ED
Masteron week 5-10 EOD
Winny 5-10 ED 50mg

I was thinking of throwing in Clen. I am new to clen but understand the concept of briding up and down for 4 weeks. 4 on and 4 off. Im naturally a lean guy while bulking im still at about 12% bf. Cutting im probobly 7% easy. Will clen effect my musclular size? Or does it only have an effect on skin? I dont wna loose too much size.

 

[Indy]

I will be doing a contest prep cycle soon. My diet is 200% on check.Radar helped me get it setup perfect...

Test prop/ Tren ace 100/100 week 1-7 ED
Masteron week 5-10 EOD
Winny 5-10 ED 50mg

I was thinking of throwing in Clen. I am new to clen but understand the concept of briding up and down for 4 weeks. 4 on and 4 off. Im naturally a lean guy while bulking im still at about 12% bf. Cutting im probobly 7% easy. Will clen effect my musclular size? Or does it only have an effect on skin? I dont wna loose too much size.

Dont know if I can answer this cause I'm not Ulter, Rader, or Satch, and for the record its RADAR, better edit your post before he chomps on ya

Anyways, here ya go !

You can do Clen for 6 weeks at a time, if taken with T3, the T3 needs to be 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, then last 2 weeks on. You can ramp up the clen over the 6 weeks you are on it, week by week. Clen is nice from the standpoint that it has a minor anti-catabolic affect to it, so you burn fat, yet it helps you retain muscle. If I was purely trying to cut, and were using clen off cycle, I would add 10mg or so of var to assure the anti-catabolic effect.

 

[swordfish151]

I will be doing a contest prep cycle soon. My diet is 200% on check.Radar helped me get it setup perfect...

Test prop/ Tren ace 100/100 week 1-7 ED
Masteron week 5-10 EOD
Winny 5-10 ED 50mg

I was thinking of throwing in Clen. I am new to clen but understand the concept of briding up and down for 4 weeks. 4 on and 4 off. Im naturally a lean guy while bulking im still at about 12% bf. Cutting im probobly 7% easy. Will clen effect my musclular size? Or does it only have an effect on skin? I dont wna loose too much size.

I dont think it will affect your size much bro...i love clen..right now im on sust/dbo/clen....the clen is getting the body fat down..but im up 15lbs! and look leaner from when i started! The owner of my gym even commented on the "gain" but i keep loosing inches off my waist and arms look more defined..im going to be posting pics this weekend...i'll be starting week 6 on monday!.....

 

[Makavelli]

You can do Clen for 6 weeks at a time, if taken with T3, the T3 needs to be 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, then last 2 weeks on. You can ramp up the clen over the 6 weeks you are on it, week by week. Clen is nice from the standpoint that it has a minor anti-catabolic affect to it, so you burn fat, yet it helps you retain muscle. If I was purely trying to cut, and were using clen off cycle, I would add 10mg or so of var to assure the anti-catabolic effect.[/QUOTE]

Actually Indy you don't use T3 2 weeks on 2 off. I think you meant to say clen. Anyway if clen is used with T3 you don't need to come off it as the T3 will keep the beta 2's open so the clen can work. Clen preserves muscle. I recommend it in every cutting cycle. Don't forget the potassium and 3 G's of taurine to prevent cramps.

 

[Indy]

You can do Clen for 6 weeks at a time, if taken with T3, the T3 needs to be 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, then last 2 weeks on. You can ramp up the clen over the 6 weeks you are on it, week by week. Clen is nice from the standpoint that it has a minor anti-catabolic affect to it, so you burn fat, yet it helps you retain muscle. If I was purely trying to cut, and were using clen off cycle, I would add 10mg or so of var to assure the anti-catabolic effect.

Actually Indy you don't use T3 2 weeks on 2 off. I think you meant to say clen. Anyway if clen is used with T3 you don't need to come off it as the T3 will keep the beta 2's open so the clen can work. Clen preserves muscle. I recommend it in every cutting cycle. Don't forget the potassium and 3 G's of taurine to prevent cramps.[/QUOTE]

You're correct if not you sure will cramp up. I have ALWAYS been told not to take T3 longer than 2 weeks as your natural production could start to suffer, if what you are saying is true, that's great, I trust you, just first time I heard it, and my pyramid schedule being used just like that really worked for a few I gave it to. One guy lost 47lbs in 2 of those 6 week cycles, and looked great before he started his first test cycle.

Have you found info saying 2 weeks wont supress natural production of T3 ?

 

[musclehealth]

Well what do you guys reccomend for dosages? Im thinking in gona stay away from the t3 for now...just sticking with then clen. Ill be cutting for 10 weeks or so...maybe 12. Should I run the clen untill contest day? or 6 weeks out from the show? Where can I get the supps to reduce cramps?

 

[satchboogie]

clen is great for cutting pre contest.. stacked with t3 youll see major fat loss.

but for post cycle, using clen is a HUGE mistake..
contrary to belief, clen is NOT anti-catabolic.... in fact, any stimulant should be avoided post cycle. my 2 cents.

 

[Indy]

clen is great for cutting pre contest.. stacked with t3 youll see major fat loss.

but for post cycle, using clen is a HUGE mistake..
contrary to belief, clen is NOT anti-catabolic.... in fact, any stimulant should be avoided post cycle. my 2 cents.

You're right, it's still a stimulant, but I have read several sources saying it's anti-catabolic and specifically that's why I said "minor" anti-catabolic. With that said, I have seen it many times, but I still avoid it cause I truely believe the same thing, stimulant is stimulant.

 

[satchboogie]

You're right, it's still a stimulant, but I have read several sources saying it's anti-catabolic and specifically that's why I said "minor" anti-catabolic. With that said, I have seen it many times, but I still avoid it cause I truely believe the same thing, stimulant is stimulant.

id avoid it post cycle!!
there is no conclusive evidence that clen will stop muscle wasting post cycle.. the studies we have on clen were conducted on animals in doses that would LITERALLY kill humans!!!

clen = cutting agent ONLY!!!

 

[Indy]

id avoid it post cycle!!
there is no conclusive evidence that clen will stop muscle wasting post cycle.. the studies we have on clen were conducted on animals in doses that would LITERALLY kill humans!!!

clen = cutting agent ONLY!!!

I agree with that statement Satch.

For doses everyone is different and I wont answer that, cause even small doses have effected others much more harsh than most take day 1, therefore, I'm going to be safe and not recommend your dosages. Do a search and you will find plenty of them peeps use, just start low and work up if you've never taken it before.