CKD GURU's and USERS!!!

[dr_skier]

Ok guys some last ckd q's here:
tell me about these 'one the fence' foods for ckd, hidden carbs too much?
-ANPB
-Nuts (any specifics?)
-Sugar alcohols' like in "2g net carbs" protein bars etc.....
-aspratame in diet coke, diet candies, crystal light etc (some say prevents and kicks out of ketosis??)
-just looked at cottage cheese, thats to bad, guess thats gone.....
-veggies like brocolleri, avacado, lettuce, spinach? no go?

Does anyone have any mealplans of theirs for CKD?
Does anyone have any starting and finishing results for their CKD experience?
Any foods out there to eat/avoid that i might not think of?

 

[SgtSlaughter]

I'll bump it for ya bro.

I think some of that information may be found in the Sticky's here in the Diet forum.

 

[datacult]

Is Lemon Water ok?

Diet Redbull?


Splenda?

 

[dr_skier]

Oh i know there are more ckd guru's out there!!
bump

 

[alex2678]

I avoided most nuts and ANPB on the anabolic diet during the week. Most of my 20 grams of carbs came from steamed Veggies. Net carbs and aspartame I've heard conflicting reports on whether or not they are absorbed by the body and affect ketosis. Since it's a short term diet, it's probably best to avoid them or if anything use splenda/stevia sparingly. And water with lemon is fine as a beverage.

 

[dr_skier]

thing is that anpb is 2g carbs/tablespoon, one of those a day couldn't hurt the count... but onto your steamed veggies, what did you eat for those??? I thought i heard brocorolli, celery, avacado, lettuce (iceburg) were all fine, but then someone told me no they aren't....

Can anyone else comment on aspratame in diet coke and diet candies, also other artificial sweetners that have "sugar alochols". ie there is an atkins protein bar with only 2net grams of carbs but 20g of sugaralochols listed as carbs. confusing stuff.

 

[dr_skier]

when interviewed with george S, rich maffei an elite mod said this
"This sweet taste can sometimes trick your body into releasing insulin, which is something undesirable on the ketogenic diet. (A diet consisting of very low carbohydrate consumption, usually ranging from 20-60 grams per day) However, we must realize that although insulin is released, there are still no carbohydrates present. Aspartame, therefore, may cause you to become light headed due to too much released insulin, however, it will not take a person out of ketosis."

 

[dr_skier]

Sorbital was the other ingrediant i wanted to know about - in realtion to the sugar alcohols.

 

[dr_skier]

One last post to get up here, this is the candy i got, is it ok???

Sorbitol, Gum Arabic, Color may include: (Red 40, Blue 1, Blue 2, Titanium Dioxide, Yellow Tumeric) Combination of Natural and Artificial Flavors, Oils may include: (Lemon, Lime, Orange, Spearmint, Peppermint) Citric Acid

NUTRITIONAL INFORMATION:

Total Carbohydrates: Fifteen (15) grams of Sorbitol Sugar Alcohols.
Fifteen (15) grams = zero (0) net carbohydrates

So now it has no net carbs but still sugar alcohols, i am perplexed.

 

[alex2678]

With regards to ANPB, you can have a taplespoon or more per day as long as you count it in as part of your total daily carboydrate intake. For steamed veggies, I stuck with brocolli, cauliflower, eggplant, zuchinni, and iceberg lettuce. And I did have a few sips of diet pepsi with my meals just to "wash it down". For every study that's shown aspartame takes your body out of ketosis there's one that says it does nothing to effect blood sugar so it's just best to limit them to a minimum while on this diet. I did use splenda and counted each packet as 1 gram of carbohydrates. I would completely avoid any protein bar or candy (unless it's very small) that contains sugar alcohols, sorbitol, glycerol, malitol just to be safe and make sure you get the most while on the this type of diet....Here's a link on the subject:

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/betteru35.htm