Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" thread

[roly13]

For humatrope 5mg vial how much diluent should i use to mix?

For 5mg vial of Humatrope, how much diluent should i mix with the GH to get me 4iu's a day (2iu's in the morn and 2iu's at night) the directions wouldn't say. And another thing, should i use bac-water to mix with the GH instead...if so why? Thanks alot.

roly

 

[The Shadow]

Ok, i got a couple of questions

1. If you have two people. (A) has never worked out, but wants to look good for the girls and (B) has been working out hard for 10 years. solid diet, made good gains. But feels he is ready to take the next step. They both get the same cycle, trains the same and eats the same. Who will have the best gains? What im asking i guess is does what you have been doing before you start cycling factor in in the gains.

TYOICALLY THOSE WITH A SLOID BASE WILL DO MUCH BETTER ONCE THEY TAKE THE PLUNGS - SOLID BASE BEFORE HAND

2. Ive heard people claim that people go on cycle, and when they stop they loose all they have gained. Is this possible? I dont see how since gain in muscle can only be reduced by poor diet and training.

MOST LOSE A LOT OF WATER RETENTION AND EATING HABITS AS WELL AS CORTISOL BACKLASH WILL KILL GAINS

3. Are prohormones now that good that you can do a cycle of them and expect solid gains. And i dont mean solid gains like "i used cratine and got solid gains".
I GREAT GOOD RESULTS FROM 1 AD AND 19 NOR A WHILE BACK..RETAINED ABOUT 6 POUNDS

4. Are injectables the only way to go? Wont oral steroids be a good choice because of more side effects and less gains?

ORALS ARE GENERALLY WORSE ON THE LIVER THAN INJECTABLES AS THEY ARE TYPICALLY 17AA COMPOUNDS

5. What are the possible side effects for each different steroid?

MOST WILL SUPRESS YOUR NATURAL HORMONAL AXIS TESTICULAR SHUTDOWN INCREASES ESTROGEN IN GENERAL

 

[MrMuscle]

Thanks Corn

 

[rjl296]

arent steeroids for cheaters ??

 

[Mr. dB]

arent steeroids for cheaters ??

No. You still have to train hard, eat hard, and rest hard to get any results from the steroids. If the person in question is doing all the work, how can it be cheating?

 

[Paulo]

arent steeroids for cheaters ??

lol.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Ok, i got a couple of questions

1. If you have two people. (A) has never worked out, but wants to look good for the girls and (B) has been working out hard for 10 years. solid diet, made good gains. But feels he is ready to take the next step. They both get the same cycle, trains the same and eats the same. Who will have the best gains? What im asking i guess is does what you have been doing before you start cycling factor in in the gains.

Just to add to what The Shadow already said. For steroid use, a solid base of at least 5-6 years of training should be REQUIRED! before considering a cycle....

On that Note:

A person that just started training will see DRAMATIC results their first couple of years.
Most people that begin Bodybuilding do so with a gym membership and very little knowledge. I believe that a guys who get informed about diet and proper training, can make Steroid-Like gains their first 2-3 years without even taking any supplements.
Add some Multivitamins, B-complex, Calcium, Creatine, Glutamine, Whey Protein to the Mix of Good diet, exercise and healthy lifestyle! and you have just increased the rate of your progress(muscle gains) at least 2x (for the first 2-3 years).

Your first 2-3 years of (proper)training are your BEST MUSCLE GAIN PERIOD! if you get all the information you need and make the required lifestyle changes, you can make serious steroid-like gains, without using anything. Once you have Maxed-out the amount of muscle your body can produce naturaly over 5-7 years. You can hit a nice 6-8 week cycle with Fresh Clean Androgen Receptors and BOOM! you will go far beyond your genetic limitations.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

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arent steeroids for cheaters ??

Do you per chance work for the Faux News Nutworks?

 

[The Shadow]

Thanks Corn

anytime...if you have specifice questions pm me

 

[Dial_tone]

Are they them pills what make ya all growed up and all, them steriods they call 'em?

 

[aragorn_2004]

ok guys here is what i want help with.

I am 21 and have been working out for a long time. I have earned myself some muscle definition and thats about it. I eat a lot, more than any of my freinds and yet i am not bulked. Other freinds that are going to the gym with me have twice as better results as i do. I know what they are eating and i have the same diet. Tuna fish lots of it and protien shakes. These things are really not helping me much. Tall lanky people runs in the family to be honest. I just want to look good when i go to see my love in Netherlands in november. I don't want to be a body builder.

I really need some help on what to start taking and what type of cycle i should have. I have done a lot of research and seen a lot of stuff but i want feedback from someone experienced. please be detailed because i am new with this stuff. I may start juicing regardless so pleazzzze help with your expertise.

 

[secretsquirrel]

hi chat board and all you crazy fucks out there .my intro to this site is good and interesting but i still want to know ?is it possible to use this site for a first contact situation over juice.fuck knows i have rationalised and decided to go for it natural i weigh 105 kg1.77tall a little too fat always trained hard (bench100kg d/lift170kg squat145kg for regular sets now)and stuck in my genetic code.I WANT TO RELEASE THE MONSTER!Isee others sucess and want in on that game

 

[Ripe1]

Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th

Let's say there are 2 guys, a powerlifter and a bodybuilder. Both are going to a meet/contest in 16 weeks and both are aiming at 225 bw.At the moment they are sitting at 250lbs. How would their cycles differ?

 

[The Shadow]

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Let's say there are 2 guys, a powerlifter and a bodybuilder. Both are going to a meet/contest in 16 weeks and both are aiming at 225 bw.At the moment they are sitting at 250lbs. How would their cycles differ?

Depends on initial bodyfat levels....there wouldnt really be alot of difference.....Halotestin for agression in the lifter as the show gets closer...its all about trimming fat for the bber and keeping strength for the lifter...most of the difference would be training/diet oriented.

 

[Moderate_THIS]

how do animals on steroids get big without training, unlike humans? what's the physiological difference?

 

[The Shadow]

how do animals on steroids get big without training, unlike humans? what's the physiological difference?

Greater receptor affinity

 

[Tweakle]

your body cannot maintain any mass over your natural genetic limit without regular AAS cycles or HRT. True/false?

imo it seems that you won't lose all you gain if you hadn't achieved your genetic potential to begin with, but if you're over that then you will eventually slip back to that 'benchmark' without AAS, eating more off cycle in an attempt to circumvent that will just make you fatter, your LMB will never exceed X amount without AAS.

assuming this then the only sensible cycles would be done by those who ARENT at their genetic limits, iow people with only 2-3 years hard training experience because the gains would be permanant from one cycle. Like anyone's ever just going to do one cycle, but you know what I mean

crazy talk?

 

[The Shadow]

You dont lose it all...look at Dan Duchaine...hes a prime example...you might lose a LOT of water retention...but thats not really muscle mass...although technically it is fat-free mass...lol

 

[TipDrill]

Well here goes. I'm turning 26 in september, and I want to take the AS plunge. I've been training since I was 20, and I am still growing ever so slightly. I'm a 5ft 8, 205 lb asian with 15% BF. I play penty of basketball, but I'm willing to cut some of it out to get a better body.

So far I'm leaning towards 250 - 300 mg of Enanthate, but I'm confused about clomid/nolvadex. Which should I be on? Do I use it strictly for PCT, or while I'm on my first cycle? How exactly do I take either one?

I'm commited to making the necessary life changes needed. I'm already sleeping well, and I am eating MUCH cleaner. I get stronger every week, but I really think I need to the AS to get over that hump. What do you think?

Oh yeah...I want to find a source, but I'm unsure of how to approach people with my questions. I can't exactly walk up to someone in Houston and say "hey, do you know where I can get some AS from?". What do you suggest I do? I already know its illegal to ask the boards, but it can't hurt to ask how to approach someone with this type of question.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

[Dial_tone]

Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th

You dont lose it all...look at Dan Duchaine...hes a prime example...

he's pretty much dead too.

 

[The Shadow]

Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th

he's pretty much dead too.

...but not from gear

 

[biteme]

Why do people think you're insane if you never come off of test, when research has shown that continual weekly injections of 250 mgs. are safe aside from the usual minor side effects?

 

[biteme]

how do animals on steroids get big without training, unlike humans? what's the physiological difference?

The average gain for men given a weekly injection of testosterone for birth control was 10% in lean body mass and 15% fat reduction. They did not train.

 

[spongebob]

can i mix winny and primo in the same syringe?

 

[bayareastrangerz]

whats up guys what do you guys think of a clen, cytomel and winnie cycle and how would you cycle it thanks... peace n chicken grease

 

[georgie24]

can u drink winny?

 

[SanFrancisco]

sorry if this was asked but- what's the difference between an amp and a vial? and how do you use the self contained tiny glass vials? How do you open or access it.
I know this is something i should already know.

 

[Lestat]

sorry if this was asked but- what's the difference between an amp and a vial? and how do you use the self contained tiny glass vials? How do you open or access it.
I know this is something i should already know.

A vial is a bottle with a rubber stopper that holds usually at least 10ml, up to 100ml in some cases.

An amp is typically single use, all glass, and holds 1-2ml usually. How do you open them? There are usually inidications on the neck of an amp on where to "break it".. you can score that area with a file and then just snap the top off.. it should come off cleanly but its not always that simple. Use a clean rag or piece of gauze to prevent cutting yourself if you want.

lets unsticky this thread already..

 

[TheRide]

Does fina have long term sides?

Is it true that Finaplix is no longer manufactured?

I don't know and yes it still manufac. for cattle as implats. Parabolan is not manufactured any longer.

 

[ChefWide]

What is the longest acting injectable AAS?

A minimum of injections per week for a family man would be an important plus, if said man was to suggest using such a substance... which he may or may not be... as he isn't anywhere near here.

 

[Mr. dB]

What is the longest acting injectable AAS?

A minimum of injections per week for a family man would be an important plus, if said man was to suggest using such a substance... which he may or may not be... as he isn't anywhere near here.

I'd say you can get away with injecting deca once/week for sure, and once/week isn't too much of a stretch for enanthate or cypionate either.

 

[Whiskey]

I realize that Ia m not a family man, but all you would have to do is get the syringe ready and shoot it when you "supposedly" go to take a dump... it is family life more invasive than I think?

Whiskey

 

[Raptorex]

Is it true that steroid-crazed bodybuilders are hung like hamsters, or just a cruel myth spread by wimps?

 

[Raptorex]

What is the longest acting injectable AAS?

A minimum of injections per week for a family man would be an important plus, if said man was to suggest using such a substance... which he may or may not be... as he isn't anywhere near here.

Chef, here are some important 1/2 life data to know if that is an issue for you.

*** I Stand corrected, however the point is the same...know your half-lives ***;

 

[The Shadow]

thos ehalf-lives are wrong...most of them in fact...those are more like 2x half lives

 

[ChefWide]

thos ehalf-lives are wrong...most of them in fact...those are more like 2x half lives

It's not a question of measurable metabolites for a drug test that I am poking around for... I am interested in greatly reduced injection frequency. Wish list: uber-depot style injectables.. almost long-acting micro'sphere action...

 

[The Shadow]

look at:

Sustanon
Deca
EQ

 

[riverrock]

i got a few...


is masteron a 17 aa (liver fucker upper?)

also dianabol hair loss is it due to DHT conversion ?

what causes proviron to be so tough on the hair line?

Yes, Yes, and DHT conversion!

 

[SoreArms]

ok, now nobody post after me

 

[bran987]

ok, now nobody post after me

how did I know that's what this post was going to say?

 

[Gambino]

what is the point of juicing if you don't play proffessional sports?

 

[Mr. dB]

what is the point of juicing if you don't play proffessional sports?

Getting bigger and stronger is fun.

 

[string_bean00]

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what is the point of juicing if you don't play proffessional sports?

what is the point of lifting weights if you dont play proffessional sports?

 

[jackangel]

Re: Chat Board's official "Ask a question about Anabolic Steroids in this thread" th

what is the point of juicing if you don't play proffessional sports?

dermonkeysayswhat?