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Carth VS. Satch: UPDATE!!!

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Ok...we are only a few weeks away from the competition. And today I just couldn't take it anymore! I took my Tren and Winny and trashed the shit! I just couldn't take it anymore!

My wife saw me this morning taking all my gear and just throwing it into the trash with such anger and hatred. She asked...." WTF are you doing?! " I told her that I hate this stuff. She then said..." but you look fucking awesome! You look ripped and vacular! What about your competition? No lie! I told her... fuck that shit! The hell I'm going through isn't worth a competition where if I win...I don't win jack shit!

I feel like shit on it! I can't sleep! Too much anxiety, insomnia and nightsweats. I feel no love towards anybody. Too much anger and hatred. And all for no reason at all! This stuff is ruining me! I get angry when I'm driving. I yell at the wife. My beautiful lovely wife and all for no reason. Do you guys think that is a nice thing to do? Do you? I don't!

I'm not even playing with my daughters. I ignore the damn dog. I feel fucking lethargic as shit! I have no appetite! I'm not happy. And flat out...I'm just being a total dick to everybody. And oh yeah! I lost desire for sex. NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS WORTH LOSING THE DESIRE FOR SEX!!!

God intended humans to eat, sleep and fuck. So let me do it and enjoy it! And this Tren shit has totally taken away all pleasures of my life!

I got a couple of real estate investments that i'm trying to sell. And I can't sell them because I myself get a fucking nasty attitude with the potential buyer either over the phone or in person. Just the other day someone called me and starts talking to me in spanish ( this is Miami where am at ). But I myself DO NOT like to talk spanish. So I play it dumb as if I don't know what the fuck they are saying. So I asked the lady on the phone....do you speak english? She said...Oh! I''m sorry, I though you spoke spanish. And I said...." this is a english speaking country isn't it? This is the U.S. isn't it?! The fucking bitch cursed me out and hung up!

And then some stupid bitch makes an appointment to see the house. I go over to show the house and the bitch starts making me the dumbest offer on the house. To the point that I told her...." don't fucking insult my intelligence like that! GET THE FUCK OUT!!!! Yes folks! That is the dickhead that I have become from using a drug that is supposed to make you look oh soooooo good. But make you a total asshole. And not to mention....DESTROY YOUR SEX DRIVE! And all for what? Psssst! I have no fucking idea!


Bottom line with all said and done. I'm done taking the stuff to make you look all freaky. As of today I'm taking high doses of Test Cyp. I need estrogen in my body. I don't care if I look a little bloated. I need to feel strong, happy, energetic, positive. And most importantly...I also need to feel love towards others. And lets not forget the only reason why we are all here. And that is SEX!!!!

So Satch....high doses of Test Cyp for me from now on. I'll still be there come July 17. I don't really give a shit who wins. Who looks better. I need to feel better. And treat others kind. I'm out! PEACE!!!!!
 
Sounds like tren got you good. Bottom line is to do what truly makes you happy. For your family's sake, I'm glad it's not looking feaky and you aren't risking your familial relationships over this stuff.

I ran tren once and got an infection in both quads so I had to stop early. It's a good thing because I know the insanity your describing and how it fucks with your sense of well-being.

Give it a little time to get out of your system and your head will clear. In the mean time, take your wife to dinner and your kids to a movie. Keep your head up and stay focused on what matters to you

BB
 
well if it makes you feel any better, i had a huge crash for the last 3 weeks..
havent made much progress and actually gained some fat..

so lets take it easy bro it aint a big deal.
just 2 sick fuckers goin at it..

you got size bro..
im gonna try to win with cuts even though i'm a grizzly 11%..

lol

fun and games brotha
 
Carth said:
I don't really give a shit who wins. Who looks better. I need to feel better. And treat others kind. I'm out! PEACE!!!!!

Looks like someone made the transformation from an EliteFitness "boy" to a Real world man! Atta boy. I don't know WHY people get so caught up with things that make you loopy. I just don't get it.

Enjoy life, love life, live life.
 
Carth, let me just say that i understand what you are talking about bro. Good for you if you have made a decision that will make you happier in the long run. dont let anyone tell you any differently! take care of yourself and your family..and get a little liquidex for the bloat..:) hope everything works out for ya..

BGI
 
bigbair said:
Sounds like tren got you good. Bottom line is to do what truly makes you happy. For your family's sake, I'm glad it's not looking feaky and you aren't risking your familial relationships over this stuff.

I ran tren once and got an infection in both quads so I had to stop early. It's a good thing because I know the insanity your describing and how it fucks with your sense of well-being.

Give it a little time to get out of your system and your head will clear. In the mean time, take your wife to dinner and your kids to a movie. Keep your head up and stay focused on what matters to you

BB


Funny you mention that. We did that this past Wednesday. What a fucking disaster for me! The wife and kids wanted out of their usual diet routine. They all said they wanted to IHOP. Fine!!!! We all go! FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! Maybe for me because of the Tren. Ok...here is the story.

We get there and there are only a handful of people there. One booth is a old couple with their grandsons. The MOST FUCKING UGLIEST FUCKING KIDS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!! I wanted to go over there and punch these little fuckers in the face!!! I mean....the kids were not only out of fucking shape! But had HUUUUUUGE fucking heads! And they had hair that literally looked like a fucking wig! Not to mention that they had the weirdest looking cat shaped eyes! FUCKING SPOOKY!!!! They were pissing me off. And they wouldn't shut the fuck up! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! My little girls aren't like that. Why the fuck are these little shits like that!? Fucking undisciplned fuckers!

Anyways! Back to my hellacious story. Then at another booth there is women there with fucking 5 kids!!!!! Yes 5!!!!!!! Bitch looks like she had each kid one after and all little girls. And fucking snots!!! And not to mention the bitch was pregnant. So go figure! fucking 6 fuckers with her!!! NICE!!!! Anyways......she is fucking assking for so much attention! She keeps getting up and walking around. Going in and out of the IHOP for no reason at all! Leaves her little girls in there causing all hell. Even my 2 girls said to me how rude those little girls are and uneducated they are.

Then this fucking bitch gets right in front of me and my wife and the old couple and grandsons and pulls out her fucking giant sagging tit too breast feed. We were all like...WTF!!!!! The old people got pissed off and left. And then this freaky nasty skinny hick bastard walks in. And plays it off like he is looking at her baby. And goes....OH! How cute the baby!!! Fucking pervert I said to him! He looks at me and says....excuse me! I said...don't act like you are looking at her baby! Your looking at her fucking tit you camn perv!!!

He immediately just walks away and leaves the IHOP! I was so fucking pissed off! Everybody in there was pissed off. Me the most because of the Tren. And even the waitress helping us was pissed off at that this " I need attention, look at me, I have 6 kids and I have big saggy tits BITCH!!!!!


ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Thanks brothers. I appreciate it! Yeah Satch. I aint gonna lie. I look pretty damn good. And considering the fact that I just starting going back to the gym as of late May. And not even at full force. I'v been either too busy or just fucking lazy. And only going 2-4 times a week for only 1 hour tops!

But my diet is still in check. That I admit. But I can't take it anymore. I'm ripped, hard and freaky vascular. The wife CANNOT and I mean CANNOT stopd touching me. The only problem is....that I DO NOT want her to touch me. All because I have NO desire to be touched! I need to feel well first. Not look fucking awesome! I'm sorry bro! Come July 17. I will NOT look as I do RIGHT NOW!!

But I sure will probably feel better. And I hope I can maintain some defintion and vascularity. LOL...I just wish the competition was today. Because to be frank...I don't think I'm going to look this great come 3 weeks from now.
 
Carth said:
Funny you mention that. We did that this past Wednesday. What a fucking disaster for me! The wife and kids wanted out of their usual diet routine. They all said they wanted to IHOP. Fine!!!! We all go! FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! Maybe for me because of the Tren. Ok...here is the story.

We get there and there are only a handful of people there. One booth is a old couple with their grandsons. The MOST FUCKING UGLIEST FUCKING KIDS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!! I wanted to go over there and punch these little fuckers in the face!!! I mean....the kids were not only out of fucking shape! But had HUUUUUUGE fucking heads! And they had hair that literally looked like a fucking wig! Not to mention that they had the weirdest looking cat shaped eyes! FUCKING SPOOKY!!!! They were pissing me off. And they wouldn't shut the fuck up! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! My little girls aren't like that. Why the fuck are these little shits like that!? Fucking undisciplned fuckers!

Anyways! Back to my hellacious story. Then at another booth there is women there with fucking 5 kids!!!!! Yes 5!!!!!!! Bitch looks like she had each kid one after and all little girls. And fucking snots!!! And not to mention the bitch was pregnant. So go figure! fucking 6 fuckers with her!!! NICE!!!! Anyways......she is fucking assking for so much attention! She keeps getting up and walking around. Going in and out of the IHOP for no reason at all! Leaves her little girls in there causing all hell. Even my 2 girls said to me how rude those little girls are and uneducated they are.

Then this fucking bitch gets right in front of me and my wife and the old couple and grandsons and pulls out her fucking giant sagging tit too breast feed. We were all like...WTF!!!!! The old people got pissed off and left. And then this freaky nasty skinny hick bastard walks in. And plays it off like he is looking at her baby. And goes....OH! How cute the baby!!! Fucking pervert I said to him! He looks at me and says....excuse me! I said...don't act like you are looking at her baby! Your looking at her fucking tit you camn perv!!!

He immediately just walks away and leaves the IHOP! I was so fucking pissed off! Everybody in there was pissed off. Me the most because of the Tren. And even the waitress helping us was pissed off at that this " I need attention, look at me, I have 6 kids and I have big saggy tits BITCH!!!!!


ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!


lol, wow. No more tren for you.

woosa woosa (rub the earlobes)
 
Carth said:
Funny you mention that. We did that this past Wednesday. What a fucking disaster for me! The wife and kids wanted out of their usual diet routine. They all said they wanted to IHOP. Fine!!!! We all go! FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! Maybe for me because of the Tren. Ok...here is the story.

We get there and there are only a handful of people there. One booth is a old couple with their grandsons. The MOST FUCKING UGLIEST FUCKING KIDS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!! I wanted to go over there and punch these little fuckers in the face!!! I mean....the kids were not only out of fucking shape! But had HUUUUUUGE fucking heads! And they had hair that literally looked like a fucking wig! Not to mention that they had the weirdest looking cat shaped eyes! FUCKING SPOOKY!!!! They were pissing me off. And they wouldn't shut the fuck up! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! My little girls aren't like that. Why the fuck are these little shits like that!? Fucking undisciplned fuckers!

Anyways! Back to my hellacious story. Then at another booth there is women there with fucking 5 kids!!!!! Yes 5!!!!!!! Bitch looks like she had each kid one after and all little girls. And fucking snots!!! And not to mention the bitch was pregnant. So go figure! fucking 6 fuckers with her!!! NICE!!!! Anyways......she is fucking assking for so much attention! She keeps getting up and walking around. Going in and out of the IHOP for no reason at all! Leaves her little girls in there causing all hell. Even my 2 girls said to me how rude those little girls are and uneducated they are.

Then this fucking bitch gets right in front of me and my wife and the old couple and grandsons and pulls out her fucking giant sagging tit too breast feed. We were all like...WTF!!!!! The old people got pissed off and left. And then this freaky nasty skinny hick bastard walks in. And plays it off like he is looking at her baby. And goes....OH! How cute the baby!!! Fucking pervert I said to him! He looks at me and says....excuse me! I said...don't act like you are looking at her baby! Your looking at her fucking tit you camn perv!!!

He immediately just walks away and leaves the IHOP! I was so fucking pissed off! Everybody in there was pissed off. Me the most because of the Tren. And even the waitress helping us was pissed off at that this " I need attention, look at me, I have 6 kids and I have big saggy tits BITCH!!!!!


ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!


Suggestion....let the tren fade in your system, get a sitter and you and your wife go out to dinner to somewhere where you are less likely to see some fucking sow breast feeding one of her ugly creatures.

But, I feel you bro. That's the kinda situation where it is one thing after another and you can feel the anxiety and anger quickening in your blood by the second. Next thing you know, your ready to start bashing heads and throwing tables. That really ain't a good state-of-being.
 
LOL Carth, I'm a real estate agent and I have delt with some pretty fucked up buyers. Never told them to get the fuck out, but don't be to hard on yourself some need to be told that.
 
bw1 said:
LOL Carth, I'm a real estate agent and I have delt with some pretty fucked up buyers. Never told them to get the fuck out, but don't be to hard on yourself some need to be told that.

Bro! I the tren is making me do it! The house is fucking $445. The bitch says $400 with this stupid look on her face that I want to choke her until she died! So I just said....GET THE FUCK OUT! YOU HAVE WASTED MY TIME!

Some guy calls me yesterday to ask about the price of the house. I say it is $445 but very negotiable. The fucker says to me $335!!! I said to him...WTF did you just say? He said....$335! I fucking went off at him. You stupid mothefucker blah blah blah. Who knows what else I said to him. My wife made me hang up.
 
bigbair said:
You should definitely not be on that tren.

No way bro. Never again. My fave drug is Dbol. I get fucking happy and positive. And to mention fucking horny as hell!!!! But! But!!!!!! I get fucking lethargic and always end up with injuries. Fucking tendonitis of the elbow, shoulders and forearm splints. So never again with that shit

Var is nice. Kills my appetite and makes me strong and slightly hard. But costs too much $$$$$ So to hell with that. And the last time I used it. My dick wanted to go baby on me.

Deca. Psssst! Like the cousin of Tren. So fuck that!

Winstrol is nice. But killer on the liver and HDL for me. And from time to time my knees to feel a little achy.

I would say of all the drugs I have used. Test, EQ and Proviron is my fave combo. Makes me fairly strong and pumped up. Keeps me sane. Keeps the sex drive in fair condition.

So from now on. I don't care what season it is. Test/EQ/Proviron. Nuff said!
 
lefler said:
well lets see some pics. if you're lookin so good.

Bro not now. I'm in no mood to start posing. I don't have good lighting here. And there is no one to take the shots for me right now.
 
Carth said:
So from now on. I don't care what season it is. Test/EQ/Proviron. Nuff said!

Don't forget about tbol. :D I'm getting ready to run a tbol, EQ, winny cycle and can't wait. Leave the tren for the cattle.

BB
 
Carth said:
Ok...we are only a few weeks away from the competition. And today I just couldn't take it anymore! I took my Tren and Winny and trashed the shit! I just couldn't take it anymore!

My wife saw me this morning taking all my gear and just throwing it into the trash with such anger and hatred. She asked...." WTF are you doing?! " I told her that I hate this stuff. She then said..." but you look fucking awesome! You look ripped and vacular! What about your competition? No lie! I told her... fuck that shit! The hell I'm going through isn't worth a competition where if I win...I don't win jack shit!

I feel like shit on it! I can't sleep! Too much anxiety, insomnia and nightsweats. I feel no love towards anybody. Too much anger and hatred. And all for no reason at all! This stuff is ruining me! I get angry when I'm driving. I yell at the wife. My beautiful lovely wife and all for no reason. Do you guys think that is a nice thing to do? Do you? I don't!

I'm not even playing with my daughters. I ignore the damn dog. I feel fucking lethargic as shit! I have no appetite! I'm not happy. And flat out...I'm just being a total dick to everybody. And oh yeah! I lost desire for sex. NOTHING IN THIS WORLD IS WORTH LOSING THE DESIRE FOR SEX!!!

God intended humans to eat, sleep and fuck. So let me do it and enjoy it! And this Tren shit has totally taken away all pleasures of my life!

I got a couple of real estate investments that i'm trying to sell. And I can't sell them because I myself get a fucking nasty attitude with the potential buyer either over the phone or in person. Just the other day someone called me and starts talking to me in spanish ( this is Miami where am at ). But I myself DO NOT like to talk spanish. So I play it dumb as if I don't know what the fuck they are saying. So I asked the lady on the phone....do you speak english? She said...Oh! I''m sorry, I though you spoke spanish. And I said...." this is a english speaking country isn't it? This is the U.S. isn't it?! The fucking bitch cursed me out and hung up!

And then some stupid bitch makes an appointment to see the house. I go over to show the house and the bitch starts making me the dumbest offer on the house. To the point that I told her...." don't fucking insult my intelligence like that! GET THE FUCK OUT!!!! Yes folks! That is the dickhead that I have become from using a drug that is supposed to make you look oh soooooo good. But make you a total asshole. And not to mention....DESTROY YOUR SEX DRIVE! And all for what? Psssst! I have no fucking idea!


Bottom line with all said and done. I'm done taking the stuff to make you look all freaky. As of today I'm taking high doses of Test Cyp. I need estrogen in my body. I don't care if I look a little bloated. I need to feel strong, happy, energetic, positive. And most importantly...I also need to feel love towards others. And lets not forget the only reason why we are all here. And that is SEX!!!!

So Satch....high doses of Test Cyp for me from now on. I'll still be there come July 17. I don't really give a shit who wins. Who looks better. I need to feel better. And treat others kind. I'm out! PEACE!!!!!

I must be lucky! Tren doesn't do any of that shit to me. I'm the same on or off of tren, only thing I get is nightsweats.
 
Carth said:
Bro! I the tren is making me do it! The house is fucking $445. The bitch says $400 with this stupid look on her face that I want to choke her until she died! So I just said....GET THE FUCK OUT! YOU HAVE WASTED MY TIME!

Some guy calls me yesterday to ask about the price of the house. I say it is $445 but very negotiable. The fucker says to me $335!!! I said to him...WTF did you just say? He said....$335! I fucking went off at him. You stupid mothefucker blah blah blah. Who knows what else I said to him. My wife made me hang up.


I hear ya bro. In the market I'm in no fuckin way can you low ball. I mean yes there are some sellers that are taking advantage of our boom and getting stupid with there pricing. I won't even show those or take the listing if the sellers not reasonable. When my buyers find a house they want, I tell them don't screw around with mickey mouse offers because our market is hot, the house is priced right, and you'll loose it if you do. Is it worth it to you to loose the house you want over $10,000 or $15,000? What's $10,000 in a 30 year mortgage, hardly shit. So let's be serious and get you into this home. Sometimes you just got to tell it like it is. But, yes, you have to be a little more professional then the "Tren, Get the fuck out" :p
 
bw1 said:
I hear ya bro. In the market I'm in no fuckin way can you low ball. I mean yes there are some sellers that are taking advantage of our boom and getting stupid with there pricing. I won't even show those or take the listing if the sellers not reasonable. When my buyers find a house they want, I tell them don't screw around with mickey mouse offers because our market is hot, the house is priced right, and you'll loose it if you do. Is it worth it to you to loose the house you want over $10,000 or $15,000? What's $10,000 in a 30 year mortgage, hardly shit. So let's be serious and get you into this home. Sometimes you just got to tell it like it is. But, yes, you have to be a little more professional then the "Tren, Get the fuck out" :p


I know I know! that is NOT me! Believe me it is NOT me! I would NEVER say shit like that. But it just came out. And yes I do tell people the same thing. $10,000-15000 more ain't shit with a 30 year mortgage. I'm actually veryclose to closing the deal on the $445 house. I convinced the people that they are getting a house in which they are going to get a lot of fucking equity on very fast! They are going to build a elementary school inside the community in September. That alone will bring the value of the house up $20,000! How much more will it increase in 1 year?! People need to buy houses that they can afford and also have a chance to increase in value. so that in the future...they can sell it and get tons of money back. OR! Be able to get out a large home equity loan! Some dumbasses don't realize this shit!

This one lady offered me $440 for the house. But only wanted to leave $8,000 deposit ( and it doesn't state NON-refundable ). But get this....the contract says that she is going to do 100% financing! You really think that is worth taking? I don't think so! Your opinions?
 
Carth said:
I know I know! that is NOT me! Believe me it is NOT me! I would NEVER say shit like that. But it just came out. And yes I do tell people the same thing. $10,000-15000 more ain't shit with a 30 year mortgage. I'm actually veryclose to closing the deal on the $445 house. I convinced the people that they are getting a house in which they are going to get a lot of fucking equity on very fast! They are going to build a elementary school inside the community in September. That alone will bring the value of the house up $20,000! How much more will it increase in 1 year?! People need to buy houses that they can afford and also have a chance to increase in value. so that in the future...they can sell it and get tons of money back. OR! Be able to get out a large home equity loan! Some dumbasses don't realize this shit!

This one lady offered me $440 for the house. But only wanted to leave $8,000 deposit ( and it doesn't state NON-refundable ). But get this....the contract says that she is going to do 100% financing! You really think that is worth taking? I don't think so! Your opinions?

Fuck yes she worth taking. 100% financing is very common by me. I know, my wife is a mortgage broker. She'll just do an 80/20 no problem bro. Get in touch with her lender and get a pre-approval, bam good to go. You don't give a fuck where the money coming from, whether it be from a lender, or the buyer themselves. As far as the deposit, shit she has a inspection & contingency period right? Just hold her to the time frames. You can always take back up offers and give her the 72 hour right of recission to lift her loan contingency if your worried about it. Work with her, as long as the lender gets you a pre-approval should be smooth transaction.
 
bw1 said:
Fuck yes she worth taking. 100% financing is very common by me. I know, my wife is a mortgage broker. She'll just do an 80/20 no problem bro. Get in touch with her lender and get a pre-approval, bam good to go. You don't give a fuck where the money coming from, whether it be from a lender, or the buyer themselves. As far as the deposit, shit she has a inspection & contingency period right? Just hold her to the time frames. You can always take back up offers and give her the 72 hour right of recission to lift her loan contingency if your worried about it. Work with her, as long as the lender gets you a pre-approval should be smooth transaction.

Bro! lawyer looked at it and suggested to me NOT to take it. And pre-approval letter? Come on! Anybody can get those shits. I can get one right now! That letter doesn't mean shit! And ONLY a $8,000 deposit? And she doesnt' want to make it NON-refundable! Leaves me worried!!!
 
8k aint much on a 440k house. 100% financing makes me leary about her ability to afford the investment. Your right for being skeptical.

While I am an appraiser with some residential experience, my practice is almost entirely lit. support, commercial, and large industrial properties. Residential/Commercial/Whatever, when it comes to borrowing money, the strength of the investor is measured the same.
 
My feelings serve me well most of the time. My feeelings told me NOT to take this offer. And when my lawyer said the same thing. Well...that made it official for me. But I still haven't denied her yet. I have to show the house to somebody today that wants to see the house a 3rd time! I think this might be the buyer!
 
Carth said:
Bro! lawyer looked at it and suggested to me NOT to take it. And pre-approval letter? Come on! Anybody can get those shits. I can get one right now! That letter doesn't mean shit! And ONLY a $8,000 deposit? And she doesnt' want to make it NON-refundable! Leaves me worried!!!

Why the Fuck would a lawyer not want you to take it? What reason? Talk to her lender, anybody can get a pre-qual but, not everyone gets a pre-aproval. As far as the deposit goes, she is going to have cancellation rights through a certain time frame, here it's 17 days. Can't make the deposit non-refundable for that period. Just make it non-refundable after a certain time frame. Shit we do 100% financing all the time. In this market people are making money off the appreciation of the homes, not off paying down there mortgage. So they use "other peoples" money to get in the house then re-fi and pull some of the equity out when the house appreciates. Example: We do New custom homes also, not just resale. I have one of our custom homes listed now, I listed it last fall, right when they were breaking ground. Builder put an $850,000 price on it. I told him instead of that let's get through the initial phases then put it out. Almost complete now and we are just getting it out to where people can make offers. List price is now $1,300,000! Yes 1 point 3 friggin million! My point is it's not uncommen for people to leverage there funds and get 100% financing. You would of done pretty good buying that house for $850,000 and 10 months later it's worth 1.3. Not bad if you ask me.
 
She just faxed me her letter. It is a fucking pre-qualification. Not a pre-approval. I can email it to you if you like.
 
Carth said:
She just faxed me her letter. It is a fucking pre-qualification. Not a pre-approval. I can email it to you if you like.

OK, cool don't cut her off yet. Do this. 1) Let her know Thank you for the letter, I am considering your offer. 2) Contact the lender, ask him how long till this gets out of under writing. My wife has me mine within 72 hours, then it's mostly just waiting for the appraisal and doc's are drawn, may have some pre-funding conditions but that's typical. Give them maybe 5 days to get you this info, if they dick around you'll know to cut her loose. If they give you solid answers and keep in contact with you, get you the pre-approval, once the file has been looked at by the under writer. I'd say your good to go. In our sub-divisions the houses range from about 550,000 to well over a million we get $5000 deposits. That's it. Just keep our contract times tight and we're fine. In the mean time keep showing it and use the "I already have one offer" line to attract more, works all the time. People always want what they can't have or think there going to loose. Of course you can't disclose the terms of the offer, but you can use it as leverage. Maybe you'll be in multiple offers then your gold. :)
 
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bigbair said:
8k aint much on a 440k house. 100% financing makes me leary about her ability to afford the investment. Your right for being skeptical.

While I am an appraiser with some residential experience, my practice is almost entirely lit. support, commercial, and large industrial properties. Residential/Commercial/Whatever, when it comes to borrowing money, the strength of the investor is measured the same.

Yes, I agree. However getting a loan for owner oc compared to non-owner oc or investment are different games with drastically different criteria.
 
Carth said:
No way bro. Never again. My fave drug is Dbol. I get fucking happy and positive. And to mention fucking horny as hell!!!! But! But!!!!!! I get fucking lethargic and always end up with injuries. Fucking tendonitis of the elbow, shoulders and forearm splints. So never again with that shit

Var is nice. Kills my appetite and makes me strong and slightly hard. But costs too much $$$$$ So to hell with that. And the last time I used it. My dick wanted to go baby on me.

Deca. Psssst! Like the cousin of Tren. So fuck that!

Winstrol is nice. But killer on the liver and HDL for me. And from time to time my knees to feel a little achy.

I would say of all the drugs I have used. Test, EQ and Proviron is my fave combo. Makes me fairly strong and pumped up. Keeps me sane. Keeps the sex drive in fair condition.

So from now on. I don't care what season it is. Test/EQ/Proviron. Nuff said!

Deca never changed my attitude oh wait i'm always an asshole nevermind
 
Yo Carth, low-carbs can make anyone cranky. Stack that with lack of sleep and terrible night sweats from tren and you got one cranky bastard. Did you have test in that stack? Dostinex? That should keep the libido alive and well. I'd just dump the Tren if I were you and go about business as normal beyond that. Lots of other choices and stacks.

I only have one other question for you now.....did you apologize to the dog for ignoring him?........you heartless bastard.
 
slyder190 said:
Yo Carth, low-carbs can make anyone cranky. Stack that with lack of sleep and terrible night sweats from tren and you got one cranky bastard. Did you have test in that stack? Dostinex? That should keep the libido alive and well. I'd just dump the Tren if I were you and go about business as normal beyond that. Lots of other choices and stacks.

I only have one other question for you now.....did you apologize to the dog for ignoring him?........you heartless bastard.


ROFLMAO!!! Bro! I'm taking 250grams of low glycemic carbs. That is NOT low. I feel fine! I have plenty of energy. Yes I have both test and dos in the stack and that doesn't do shit! I already trashed the Tren this morning. It is officially gone!

One bro here on EF asked me to mail it to him. I had no problem with that. But they are ALL in syringes. So he quickly changed his mind. I don't blame him.

But anyways. I did apologize to my female Rottweiler...DARTH TRAYA.
 
I champion your cause Carth- After 6 years of steroid use... there's only 4 variants of AAS I'll use now (Test, Winstrol, Var, NPP). I won't go near anything else and I keep my weekly doses well under a gram. My personal life, my professional life, and my relationships have been hit hard whenever I've deviated from this in the past.
 
Carth said:
Funny you mention that. We did that this past Wednesday. What a fucking disaster for me! The wife and kids wanted out of their usual diet routine. They all said they wanted to IHOP. Fine!!!! We all go! FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! Maybe for me because of the Tren. Ok...here is the story.

We get there and there are only a handful of people there. One booth is a old couple with their grandsons. The MOST FUCKING UGLIEST FUCKING KIDS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!! I wanted to go over there and punch these little fuckers in the face!!! I mean....the kids were not only out of fucking shape! But had HUUUUUUGE fucking heads! And they had hair that literally looked like a fucking wig! Not to mention that they had the weirdest looking cat shaped eyes! FUCKING SPOOKY!!!! They were pissing me off. And they wouldn't shut the fuck up! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! My little girls aren't like that. Why the fuck are these little shits like that!? Fucking undisciplned fuckers!

Anyways! Back to my hellacious story. Then at another booth there is women there with fucking 5 kids!!!!! Yes 5!!!!!!! Bitch looks like she had each kid one after and all little girls. And fucking snots!!! And not to mention the bitch was pregnant. So go figure! fucking 6 fuckers with her!!! NICE!!!! Anyways......she is fucking assking for so much attention! She keeps getting up and walking around. Going in and out of the IHOP for no reason at all! Leaves her little girls in there causing all hell. Even my 2 girls said to me how rude those little girls are and uneducated they are.

Then this fucking bitch gets right in front of me and my wife and the old couple and grandsons and pulls out her fucking giant sagging tit too breast feed. We were all like...WTF!!!!! The old people got pissed off and left. And then this freaky nasty skinny hick bastard walks in. And plays it off like he is looking at her baby. And goes....OH! How cute the baby!!! Fucking pervert I said to him! He looks at me and says....excuse me! I said...don't act like you are looking at her baby! Your looking at her fucking tit you camn perv!!!

He immediately just walks away and leaves the IHOP! I was so fucking pissed off! Everybody in there was pissed off. Me the most because of the Tren. And even the waitress helping us was pissed off at that this " I need attention, look at me, I have 6 kids and I have big saggy tits BITCH!!!!!


ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
This is some of the funniest shit i've read in a while. particularly, the part about the fucked up looking kids.
 
Carth said:
Funny you mention that. We did that this past Wednesday. What a fucking disaster for me! The wife and kids wanted out of their usual diet routine. They all said they wanted to IHOP. Fine!!!! We all go! FUCKING NIGHTMARE!!! Maybe for me because of the Tren. Ok...here is the story.

We get there and there are only a handful of people there. One booth is a old couple with their grandsons. The MOST FUCKING UGLIEST FUCKING KIDS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE!!! I wanted to go over there and punch these little fuckers in the face!!! I mean....the kids were not only out of fucking shape! But had HUUUUUUGE fucking heads! And they had hair that literally looked like a fucking wig! Not to mention that they had the weirdest looking cat shaped eyes! FUCKING SPOOKY!!!! They were pissing me off. And they wouldn't shut the fuck up! BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! My little girls aren't like that. Why the fuck are these little shits like that!? Fucking undisciplned fuckers!

Anyways! Back to my hellacious story. Then at another booth there is women there with fucking 5 kids!!!!! Yes 5!!!!!!! Bitch looks like she had each kid one after and all little girls. And fucking snots!!! And not to mention the bitch was pregnant. So go figure! fucking 6 fuckers with her!!! NICE!!!! Anyways......she is fucking assking for so much attention! She keeps getting up and walking around. Going in and out of the IHOP for no reason at all! Leaves her little girls in there causing all hell. Even my 2 girls said to me how rude those little girls are and uneducated they are.

Then this fucking bitch gets right in front of me and my wife and the old couple and grandsons and pulls out her fucking giant sagging tit too breast feed. We were all like...WTF!!!!! The old people got pissed off and left. And then this freaky nasty skinny hick bastard walks in. And plays it off like he is looking at her baby. And goes....OH! How cute the baby!!! Fucking pervert I said to him! He looks at me and says....excuse me! I said...don't act like you are looking at her baby! Your looking at her fucking tit you camn perv!!!

He immediately just walks away and leaves the IHOP! I was so fucking pissed off! Everybody in there was pissed off. Me the most because of the Tren. And even the waitress helping us was pissed off at that this " I need attention, look at me, I have 6 kids and I have big saggy tits BITCH!!!!!


ARRRRRRRGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


fuck me that's funny
 
Bros I'm serious! This shit really did happen! And all her girls had different faces. Which goes to show that each girl has a different daddy!!! And at one point she asks the girl at the front of the IHOP to hold her baby. And the girl says....Um...OK. And then this crazy bitch just leaves the IHOP for no reason. Just walking around. I think she was crazy! Really she was!
 
diff people respond differently to gear. there are some people who have never used tren and are just fine. There are some who have no sides and only good results and there are unfortunately some who are very prone to the sides. the best idea , to me anyway would seem that if you are prone to the sides from a certain drug, to not take it and to take different ones where you do not see those effects. Listen to your body. if you get a bunch of bad sides, that is your body telling you "no, this isn't good!"
 
I'm finishing up week 3 of my cycle with tren as the base. I've managed to get to sleep on it through meditation, but my dreams are totally fucked up! I wake up in the worst mood from the shit that was going through my head all night. I don't want to admit this, but in the dream I was having the other day, I was repeatedly punching my mother in the face. What kind of fucked up shit is that? I love my mom and would never ever even think of doing anything like that ever! I know how you feel carth. Tren seems to be the devil' gear. I'm liking the strength and pumps, but I don't think I'll be using it anymore after this.
 
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krishna said:
I was repeatedly punching my mother in the face. What kind of fucked up shit is that? I love my mom and would never ever even think of doing anything like that ever! I know how you feel carth. Tren seems to be the devil' gear. I'm liking the strength and pumps, but I don't think I'll be using it anymore after this.


LOL

holy fuck dude...

i don't think i could handle tren.

but if i could get my hands on tri-trenabol i'd take it anyway :evil:
 
satchboogie said:
well if it makes you feel any better, i had a huge crash for the last 3 weeks..
havent made much progress and actually gained some fat..

so lets take it easy bro it aint a big deal.
just 2 sick fuckers goin at it..

you got size bro..
im gonna try to win with cuts even though i'm a grizzly 11%..

lol

fun and games brotha

Fat ass!
 
nishnish said:
LOL

holy fuck dude...

i don't think i could handle tren.

but if i could get my hands on tri-trenabol i'd take it anyway :evil:

I have been able to handle it pretty good during the day because I just kind of disconnect from my thoughts. Gets rid of the bad mood, but I'm not in a good mood either; just kind of blah. I can handle it well, but I definitely know where Carth is coming from.
 
I actually feel a whole lot stronger on shit like Test and EQ. Tren gives me strength the first 3-4 weeks. After that I just feel like shit. And I do NOT feel any strength or pumps.
 
I feel ya bro. I love what tren does but I don't know if ill ever run it agian. I get anxious, can't sleep and snap really easily. Test is best for me.
 
so if this contest is still going on, can I get in on it too now, I'm dieting now, and will be happy to bet that I pass you guys on bf %, and fairly quickly????
 
needsize said:
so if this contest is still going on, can I get in on it too now, I'm dieting now, and will be happy to bet that I pass you guys on bf %, and fairly quickly????

Its still on! As a matter of fact. I will post some Pre-judging pics in a few minutes. Stay tuned!!!
 
Carth said:
Its still on! As a matter of fact. I will post some Pre-judging pics in a few minutes. Stay tuned!!!

cool, I plan on posting some in another week or so, since june 6 have gone from 260lbs to 240lbs
 
needsize said:
cool, I plan on posting some in another week or so, since june 6 have gone from 260lbs to 240lbs

Like I said...give me a few minutes to come up with these pics. Rembmer...I have to set up for NON Plats too. And be aware that I WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THIS COMETH JULY 17! I have stopped all cutting drugs! I'm jumping on heavy dose test. I just feel a whole lot better on stuff like that.
 
Carth said:
Like I said...give me a few minutes to come up with these pics. Rembmer...I have to set up for NON Plats too. And be aware that I WILL NOT LOOK LIKE THIS COMETH JULY 17! I have stopped all cutting drugs! I'm jumping on heavy dose test. I just feel a whole lot better on stuff like that.

its been 3 hours... lets see em
 
Damn Bro you live in Miami and have people like that in IHOP so you can only imagine trying to go to one in Louisiana! Man I haven't taken anything in 5 years because I got married and she didn't even like me working out anymore. I guess it had to do with me meeting her at a Gym I was working at! So I took off lifting almost 4 years & we just split so I've been back in the gym for about 4 months and man it feels great! I have heard allot of bad things about Tren and then I've heard some great things but from listening to you I don't think I'll mess with it! You still look awesome, great house, car, wife, and kids so do what makes you happy Bro. Damn you cracked me up talking about those kids!!!
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Hahahaha. I feel you bro, tren is some brutal shit. I get the exact same way. My g.f. told me I was "emotionally numb" when I was taking it and extremley laxidazical about everything. Stuff either royally pissed me off or I didn't give a flying fuck about it...there was no middle ground. No laughing, no smiling, just clinched fists and a pissed off look on my face. However, due to the fact that fina is dirt cheap and I'm a broke college student I'll be running it again in a couple of weeks here along with some sust.
 
bw1 said:
I hear ya bro. In the market I'm in no fuckin way can you low ball. I mean yes there are some sellers that are taking advantage of our boom and getting stupid with there pricing. I won't even show those or take the listing if the sellers not reasonable. When my buyers find a house they want, I tell them don't screw around with mickey mouse offers because our market is hot, the house is priced right, and you'll loose it if you do. Is it worth it to you to loose the house you want over $10,000 or $15,000? What's $10,000 in a 30 year mortgage, hardly shit. So let's be serious and get you into this home. Sometimes you just got to tell it like it is. But, yes, you have to be a little more professional then the "Tren, Get the fuck out" :p

I was wondering if you have a mortgage broker that you deal with directly, I'm a mortgage broker, and if you're here in Florida, we an definately help each other make some money!! drop me an e-mail if you want to chat... [email protected]
 
Carth said:
I know I know! that is NOT me! Believe me it is NOT me! I would NEVER say shit like that. But it just came out. And yes I do tell people the same thing. $10,000-15000 more ain't shit with a 30 year mortgage. I'm actually veryclose to closing the deal on the $445 house. I convinced the people that they are getting a house in which they are going to get a lot of fucking equity on very fast! They are going to build a elementary school inside the community in September. That alone will bring the value of the house up $20,000! How much more will it increase in 1 year?! People need to buy houses that they can afford and also have a chance to increase in value. so that in the future...they can sell it and get tons of money back. OR! Be able to get out a large home equity loan! Some dumbasses don't realize this shit!

This one lady offered me $440 for the house. But only wanted to leave $8,000 deposit ( and it doesn't state NON-refundable ). But get this....the contract says that she is going to do 100% financing! You really think that is worth taking? I don't think so! Your opinions?

Don't mean to jump into your conversation, but I'm a mortgage broker, and to be honest with you... if you send the mortgage my way, I can probably get her 100% financing, depending on her score, actually with that said, I can pre-qualify all of your clients before you even take them on the road if you'd like, that way they know right off the bat, closing costs, down payment, and deposits. If you'd like to chat about business a little more, I'd be more than happy to, my e-mail is [email protected]
 
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