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can semen cure the blues?

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http://www.salon.com/sex/feature/2002/06/19/semen/

June 19, 2002 | A report appearing this month in an obscure medical journal, the "Archives of Sexual Behavior," shows that women who enjoy sex au natural are less depressed than those who use condoms. The reason: semen may be an antidepressant.

Few would associate a glob of semen with a dose of Prozac, but many will say that bare sex with a beloved partner makes them feel good.

"If that's the truth, I must be the happiest woman on the planet," says Wifey, the star of WifeysWorld.com, where she and her husband (yes, Hubby) open their bedroom to subscribing voyeurs. "I have probably consumed quarts of semen in my life and I can certainly attest to a heightened feeling afterwards. I suppose it makes sense. "Put me on the 'I think it's true' side of the ledger," she says.

"The act of sex is more pleasurable without condoms," says Janice (not her real name), a fashion designer in Chicago who has struggled with depression since age 16. "The whole next day you really feel much better. There's definitely a difference."

Study author Gordon Gallup, a psychology professor at the State University of New York in Albany, thinks the post-coital buzz Wifey describes and the sexual healing Janice experiences may be caused by some unknown chemical in semen.

It all began with cohabiting lesbians. Two studies showed that while heterosexual women who live together often have their periods at the same time, lesbians living in close quarters do not. The phenomenon of menstrual synchrony is believed to be caused by pheromones in sweat. Gallup thought that if lesbians have the same pheromones breeders have, maybe the difference is exposure to semen, or a lack thereof. Then he happened upon a 1986 report in an out-of-the-way journal called "Medical Hypotheses." Psychologist P.G. Ney wrote of a depressed woman who made an astounding recovery as soon as she got laid.

No surprise there. But, as its name suggests, the journal is a forum for wild speculation, so Ney put forth the idea that something in her lover's ejaculate cured her.

Gallup says he was intrigued, and spent more time sifting through the medical literature to see if he could find any scientific basis for Ney's report and the case of the asynchronous lesbians.

He found some compelling evidence. Semen is a nutritious medium that supports spermatozoa on their journey through a woman's plumbing. That's what we learned in sex ed, but it's not the whole of it. In fact, semen is a rich chemical brine, containing testosterone, estrogen and other hormones: prostaglandins (made in the prostate gland), as well as luteinizing hormone and follicle-stimulating hormone (both trigger ovulation). Scientists know that chemicals in semen are absorbed into a woman's bloodstream through the vagina. "There's clear evidence that there's transport," Gallup says. "There's no question about that."
 
in a "sufficiently bothered" women-LOL

With these facts in mind, he set out to test Ney's hypothesis. He recruited 293 undergraduate females from the Albany campus to take part in his study. The women answered questions about their sex lives, including frequency of sex, how long it had been since their last romp, and what type of birth control they used. They also took a 20-question test to rate their level of depression. Called the Beck Depression Inventory, it's one of the standard questionnaires researchers use.

Upon seeing the results, Gallup bit the stem off his pipe.

The women who rejected rubbers were significantly happier than those using them and those having no sex at all. What's more, those who had been getting regular injections of semen from their boyfriends felt worse the longer it had been since they stopped having sex. The same was not true of women who used condoms.

Gallup says this suggests, in the simplest terms, that semen is a drug, and that it's addictive: Women go through a kind of withdrawal when they stop getting it. All those puerile porno cliches come to mind -- "Horny babes crave your cum," and worse.

"It's got all kinds of implications," Gallup says. Since completing the study, he has replicated the results in a larger group of women (about 700 volunteered for the second study). He is also beginning to test some new ideas he got as a result of doing the first study. For example, he is currently collecting data on the severity of PMS symptoms in those who use condoms and those who don't.

PMS, postpartum depression (the "baby blues") and menopause all bear on sexual activity. Women usually abstain when they have their period, right after giving birth, and at the onset of menopause, so Gallup wonders if the semen "withdrawal effect" may have something to do with the mood swings that often accompany these events. His follow-up research has also hinted that women who don't use condoms get into rebound relationships quicker than condom users do. Again, this suggests something like an addict's drug-seeking behavior.

The extent to which semen-borne testosterone gets into a woman's bloodstream may have an effect on libido, too. Reams of research data show that testosterone is as essential to female sexuality as it is to the male urge. The most recent evidence was presented May 26 at the American Urological Association meeting, which ran for five days in the vast Orange County Convention Center in Orlando, Fla. The annual meeting is the premier event for scientists to share new information on the physiology of sex. (It's not all about pee.)

Researchers at Boston University presented findings that low testosterone levels were linked to sexual dysfunction in pre-menopausal women. Female sexual dysfunction is an umbrella term for several specific disorders. It's a hot field for research at the moment, owing largely to the success doctors have had treating male sexual dysfunction -- impotence.

Four years into the Viagra era, scientists are exploring the use of various drugs, including male hormones, to treat women who have put themselves on the shelf due to lack of desire, pain during sex, inability to have orgasms, and what has been termed "sexual arousal disorder."

The genitals of women with arousal disorder do not respond to sexual excitement. It is becoming more widely understood as sex becomes more medicalized that the clitoris is erectile tissue, like the penis. In a sufficiently bothered woman, the genitals should become flush with blood, resulting in an erection, so to speak, of the clitoris, and a flowering of the vulva. Of course, they're supposed to get dewy down there, too. Women with arousal disorder want to have these responses, but they don't.

Another study presented at the Orlando meeting looked at the use of prostaglandin E1 for arousal disorder. Women in this study basted their clitoris, labia, and vaginal opening with a prostaglandin liquid, then watched erotic videos for 30 minutes while taking notes on how aroused they became. The researchers also measured the flow of blood to the genitals. There was a significant increase in arousal levels and genital swelling in the women who used the prostaglandin liquid, compared to those who used a placebo.

Prostaglandin E1 is in semen. "It just goes on and on," Gallup says.

Nevertheless, it's far too soon to decide you want to take the cum cure. If your boyfriend tries to convince you to shuck condoms for your own well-being, he's either a sneak, or he doesn't understand science. "These data are only suggestive," Gallup stresses. "They're hardly conclusive."

The study's design rules out some other explanations for the effect on mood that semen appears to have, but it leaves much in doubt. Dr. Winifred Cutler, best known for her discovery of human pheromones in 1986, says Gallup's study "raises more questions than it answers."

Asked whether the glow after bare lovemaking could be from semen deposited in her reproductive tract, Janice says she thinks it has more to do with intimacy.

One young single woman in New York, who prefers to remain anonymous, feels the same way. She is in therapy for depression and has been on a litany of antidepressants. "When I was in a steady relationship, I was pretty damn happy all the time," she says. "But I don't know if that had anything to do with having semen in me."

But the fact that there was no difference in the depression scores of those using condoms and those sleeping alone seems to dismiss one other explanation -- what scientists call a "confounding variable." Simply having sex cannot account for their relative happiness, Gallup says.

Another alternative explanation would be intimacy. It is a reasonable hypothesis that women whose partners do not use condoms are in more intimate relationships than those whose partners do. Gallup's study did look at whether the women were in relationships, and for how long. He claims that intimacy did not confound the results.

Cutler disagrees. She says Gallup failed to define what a relationship is: "Is it a relationship if you've gone out with someone three times in a row?" She thinks the number of partners the women had would affect their mental hygiene. Were the women who claimed to be in relationships dreaming about wedding cake and babies, or were they carrying on "steady relationships" in three dorm rooms during the semester?

That's not the only oversight, she says. The questionnaire asked women to say how many times they'd had sex in the past year. Unless they kept a detailed dairy, or unless they had one unforgettable night, they probably couldn't remember exactly. "It's just someone's impression," Cutler says.

A more glaring flaw, she says, is the use of oral contraceptives. Roughly one-half of the women were using them, and the study design didn't take into account what type of pill they were taking. Oral contraceptives may worsen depression in some women, and relieve it in others -- and there is more than one kind of pill. Some contain the hormones estrogen and progestin together, and others have only progestin. The mood-altering effects of either may vary.

Dr. Ira Sharlip, a urologist in San Francisco and president of the Sexual Medicine Society of North America, takes a dim view of Gallup's research. "This is the kind of junk science that smears the name of honest science," he says. His opinion shouldn't be taken as simply that of a curmudgeon, for he cheerleads some research that sounds equally fantastic, and likewise is in its early stages -- gene therapy for impotence, a prosthetic testicle that releases testosterone, and human tissue grown in a lab for lengthening the penis.

"I think that this is a huge leap in logic to assume that that the only difference between the group that used condoms and the group that didn't is related to the properties of semen," Sharlip says. "There are so many other possible cultural, racial and maybe national or personal characteristics that could be related to the group that did versus the group that didn't."

Cutler goes easier on Gallup. "He has to start somewhere," she says. "I think it's a creative explanation of an intriguing question." Even so, she agrees his conclusion is an act of scientific acrobatics. "It's too much of a leap to get to semen," she says.

"There is something going on," she says, but she thinks any conclusions drawn from the study should, at this point, be limited to condom use. Everyone knows that men tend to like sex better without a condom. Now we see that women probably do as well. There may or may not be a chemical in semen that relieves depression, but it isn't too hard to believe that great sex with a great guy would make a gal feel, well, great.

Perhaps Cutler sympathizes with Gallup because it wasn't long ago that human pheromones were thought to be a myth, or at best a curious idea that required more research to prove. Sometimes it takes a leap to grab hold of the truth; but a leap may also land you flat on your can. Gallup is in midair.

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About the writer
Martin F. Downs is freelance writer in Brooklyn, N.Y. He is also editor of the Alicubi Journal.
 
I am firm believer in this. When my wife feels a little blue I just give her big ole dose of medecine and I feel better right away . . . wait was that the point of the study. I'll have to ask her if she feels better too.
 
Well than I should be the happiest woman around, but does it count if he has had a vasctomy??
 
Gymgurl said:
Well than I should be the happiest woman around, but does it count if he has had a vasctomy??

Does he still shoot gobs of baby batter out or does a puff of dense smoke come from his cock when nutting after having this vasectomy?
 
4everhung said:
vasectomy would only reduce ejaculate by about 5%..don't know about those prostglandins(btw,some amatuer chemsit needs to formulate a "prostaglandin liquid" in order to "baste" the vulva,clitoris et.al.) and other hormones in the ejaculate..perhaps their presence is or isn't affected by the cutting of vas deferens in a vasectomy.... http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=3172016#post3172016

PHEW!!!. Now I can sleep well at night.
 
Well, this is my opinion.....sometimes a woman needs a good fuck.... I mean wham bam thank you ma'am.... but sometimes we need love....making love and all that...kissing feeling foreplay...to feel special.....we know you guys are just out to shoot ur load...but we need romance sometimes too. candles lit....music.....and all that...
 
SoKlueles said:
Well, this is my opinion.....sometimes a woman needs a good fuck.... I mean wham bam thank you ma'am.... but sometimes we need love....making love and all that...kissing feeling foreplay...to feel special.....we know you guys are just out to shoot ur load...but we need romance sometimes too. candles lit....music.....and all that...

You want romance? Ok, here's my take on romance...

While I'm fucking you in the ass, hold a match up in the air and kiss the sky.. I'll pat you on the head after I unload the splooge as a token of my appreciation.
 
Romo17 said:


You want romance? Ok, here's my take on romance...

While I'm fucking you in the ass, hold a match up in the air and kiss the sky.. I'll pat you on the head after I unload the splooge as a token of my appreciation.


:p I :heart: u
 
Romo17 said:


You want romance? Ok, here's my take on romance...

While I'm fucking you in the ass, hold a match up in the air and kiss the sky.. I'll pat you on the head after I unload the splooge as a token of my appreciation.

I can't belive you said that , Here I thought you were one of the sweet and romantic type guys.
 
sweetnes11 said:


I can't belive you said that , Here I thought you were one of the sweet and romantic type guys.

Sweetnes, I am. I'd at least smile and get her a new match after it starts to burn her fingers while I'm hitting it.
 
Romo17 said:


You want romance? Ok, here's my take on romance...

While I'm fucking you in the ass, hold a match up in the air and kiss the sky.. I'll pat you on the head after I unload the splooge as a token of my appreciation.

I dont know what made me think you were Romantic.

Oh well I still think you are , your just trying to act all mocho. You know your thr kind of guy that gives back rubs with oils, and candle light dinners with soft music in the back ground to set the mood.
Ok then you get into the dirty sex lol
 
sweetnes11 said:


I dont know what made me think you were Romantic.

Oh well I still think you are , your just trying to act all mocho. You know your thr kind of guy that gives back rubs with oils, and candle light dinners with soft music in the back ground to set the mood.
Ok then you get into the dirty sex lol

sounds like stuff i like
oh well maybe in another life
 
SoKlueles said:
Well, this is my opinion.....sometimes a woman needs a good fuck.... I mean wham bam thank you ma'am.... but sometimes we need love....making love and all that...kissing feeling foreplay...to feel special.....we know you guys are just out to shoot ur load...but we need romance sometimes too. candles lit....music.....and all that...
I save the romance for after the good fuck...then its time for the candles,hot bath together,bath oils etc...don't like music during sex..I like to hear every auditory nuance while getting nasty
 
lol
it is all mood setting
once you know your partner,
you can combine what turns her on with some of what turns you on and maybe have an all time high
 
sweetnes11 said:


I dont know what made me think you were Romantic.

I think it was the one time you saw me ask Gymgurl "please" for a blowjob.

And I don't act macho, I can't hold my breath that long.
 
there's more
What you have to understand is that we all are still carrying around the same biology as our ancestors did in the stone age. Our primary reason for existing in this world (biologically) is to procreate offspring in order to continue our unbroken line of genes. The very fact that you are here is because your ancestors have had kids and grandkids for countless generations.

Now, how is it that females and males select who we will procreate with? Men and women have different methods and different priorities for this. Males select females with long legs, shapely hips, large breasts, and pretty faces. In other words, guys want to fuck total foxes. Guys look for these traits because they give signals that the woman is healthy and will have healthy kids. The programming in men says to go out and impregnate as many foxes as you can, thereby having as many kids as you can. Men are after quantity, not necessarily quality, because they have the ability to really spread that seed around, thus increasing their chances of having more kids.

Women look for quality, not quantity. We are programmed to look for tall, muscular men, with strong, broad shoulders and strong arms. These are signals to us that these men are strong enough to protect us, strong enough to make good hunters and providers for our children, and if they have large cocks, they will bring us much pleasure. These guys we shall call studs. These studs produce healthy, good looking children. That's why us women would rather fuck Antonio Bandaras than Danny De Vito. When a stud makes contact with a fox, the sex is very, very good indeed! Super sex! Mind blowing sex! Great orgasms!

The advantage of selection is with the woman. If she is a fox, she usually has several studs chasing after her. She usually selects the best one for her, but sometimes another comes around who makes a better match; a super stud. She will always be tempted to change up to a better partner if the opportunity presents itself. Women can be fickle creatures.

When men and women make love, they exchange more chemical pheromones that are passed during kissing, and from the man's semen into the woman's vagina. These chemicals cause the couple to become "attached" to each other. A superior male, however, can break this bond.

When you separate a man and a woman for a time, the man will build up both desire for her, and also some doubt of her fidelity. When a man fucks his wife for the first time after after an absence, his ejaculate will almost double in quantity, just on the outside chance that she has been unfaithful, and she has another man's semen swimming inside of her. That reaction is called the "sperm competition reaction", and those orgasms experienced by men who have reunited with their mates are very powerful indeed! Absence makes the heart grow fonder, and it also makes the cock
harder, and the balls more productive.

Unfaithful to him? If he knows this, the sperm competition reaction in him will kick-in, producing more and more sperm the very next time
he is around you, regardless of whether or not you make love. When he sees you fuck a superior male, his sperm competition reaction causes him to want to cum, and cum hard! Even though the humiliation and jealousy of what is happening also takes place in his mind, the sperm competition reaction can overcome his feelings of anger and jealousy and can cause much pleasure by making
him cum very hard with a lot of semen! This is the component that causes him to "like it" when you cheat in front of him! His body is so compelled to compete with your lover, that he can
sometimes cum just watching you and your stud! It's a trick of nature my friends! It's not even a perversion!

Now, more about your reaction. Even though have has a mate and you love him very much, you are still vulnerable to the attraction of a super stud. If a superior male comes along who gives off pheromones telling you he is a superior match for you, you will be attracted to him, and your desire to have sex with him will build. If you continue to make social contact with one another, eventually you will try to attract him into fucking you. It's your nature. If the attraction is mutual, the stud will take in the pheromones she is giving off, and the two of you will get hot for each other. You
will find a way to have sex.

Of course all of this is chemical/biological, and has no effect on intellect. Just because you have a physical lover does not neccessarily mean you will leave your husband or stop liking/loving him.
 
but the sun is good for seasonal affective disorder..here let me find a link.....
 
4everhung said:
there's more
Men and women have different methods and different priorities for this. Males select females with long legs, shapely hips, large breasts, and pretty faces. In other words, guys want to fuck total foxes. Guys look for these traits because they give signals that the woman is healthy and will have healthy kids. The programming in men says to go out and impregnate as many foxes as you can, thereby having as many kids as you can. Men are after quantity, not necessarily quality, because they have the ability to really spread that seed around, thus increasing their chances of having more kids.

This therory plays well on paper, hungman but how do you explain our uncontrolable urge to fuck the ugly ones, too?
 
Athos said:


This therory plays well on paper, hungman but how do you explain our uncontrolable urge to fuck the ugly ones, too?
"The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities...It is best to win without fighting."
Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Planning a Siege

see there bro,the pretty ones put up a fight...personally I prefer the fight though
 
4everhung said:
"The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities...It is best to win without fighting."
Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Planning a Siege

see there bro,the pretty ones put up a fight...personally I prefer the fight though

I don't have time for fights or small-talk, my time is valuable That's why I always come prepared with a bottle of roofies.
 
4everhung said:
"The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities...It is best to win without fighting."
Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Planning a Siege

see there bro,the pretty ones put up a fight...personally I prefer the fight though

you need a life bud
 
4everhung said:
"The best victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities...It is best to win without fighting."
Sun-tzu, The Art of War. Planning a Siege

see there bro,the pretty ones put up a fight...personally I prefer the fight though

Ah!
...but as you see, even Sun Wu makes a strong arguement for going for the fat chick when the objective is getting laid.
 
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