Calling W6, big squat must = knee soreness?

[RottenWillow]

I'm developing a problem with some mild but persistent knee pain which I'm assuming is being caused by squatting to a 10 inch box (i.e. deep) and using fairly heavy weight. Form is good, knees do not extend beyond me toesies, not bouncy off the box.

I'm just wondering if this is a natural consequence of using relatively big weights with small joints.

 

[RottenWillow]

Hey it doesnt have to be W6. Any input from ladies in the know?

 

[wilson6]

Could be a function of how often you are squatting heavy. Once every couple of weeks for me was about all my knees could take anymore.

Unless there is something else going on, it could just be overuse. Try changing up your routine. Throw in a light workout here and there, or squat with lighter weight and try some speed sets or higher rep sets (20), band work, etc.

What else are you doing? Hacks, full range extensions, sissy's, lunges, cardio can all have an additive effect.

W6

 

[RottenWillow]

Could be a function of how often you are squatting heavy. Once every couple of weeks for me was about all my knees could take anymore.

Unless there is something else going on, it could just be overuse. Try changing up your routine. Throw in a light workout here and there, or squat with lighter weight and try some speed sets or higher rep sets (20), band work, etc.

What else are you doing? Hacks, full range extensions, sissy's, lunges, cardio can all have an additive effect.

W6

Wilson, the only other leg excercise are SLDLs. My leg workout is 4 sets total. 2 sets of each exercise, 10 reps per set. No cardio either. I did have some problems with my knees a few years ago (age 17, I'm 20 now) from 4 years of cheering.

I squat to failure about every 6 days, otherwise its one to two reps short of it. Feet slighter wider than shoulders. I wrapped my knees last night with masking tape so there's less discomfort today than lately. I have a fine bone structure but have naturally very full thick muscles in my lower body. I squatted up to 315 last july down to about 11 inches after 7 months of training.

some additional questions:

Do you think "sitting back" or "forward in the pocket" are more or less stressful to the knees? Also do you think glucosamine sulfate would help? I'm also getting a very noticable pain right at the insertion of my quads and groin. Warming up thoroughly helps, but does not eliminate it. Is this pain coming from my pelvis? It's become noticeable over the last month just like the knee pain, but only occuring while squatting.

Thank you sir.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Hip/Groin pain - tight hip flexor? How often do you stretch your hip flexors?

 

[RottenWillow]

Hip/Groin pain - tight hip flexor? How often do you stretch your hip flexors?

I dont think its that DG. This is new and its more of a sharp pain. If I build friction at the quad/groin area by continually rubbing my palms over it I can warm up the area enough to where the pain becomes only a dull ache.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

You're a freak?

Kidding - wow, sounds annoying. Hope you get it worked out.

W6 asked how often you were squatting heavy - I didn't see your answer. Maybe that is it? Although I am assuming you are only squatting heavy 1x a week, but I could be wrong.

 

[RottenWillow]

You're a freak?

Nope not that. Look at my new title.

thanks for pointing out my omission DG. I edited my original reply.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Nope not that. Look at my new title.

Oh no! You got hit too! lol

 

[gspotme]

hey there anya,

IMHO, as far as in the pocket, you'd be looking at wanting to stay sitting back. although our bodies are going to have the tendency naturally to want to sit forward due to the heavy weight you're squatting, pulling back can alleviate some of the stress off your knees.

Adequate warm up isnt a factor as you said you do warm up, i'd definetly give it a go with other squat exercises. Hack especially, but that's just MHO. Speed sets like wilson said, the 20 will kick your toosh! Give it a go, it's awesome. I ass to calf squat heavy every 6 days as well, and normally pyramid them. When i have an inkling that my pains are displaced, knees, lback, hips, i fine tune my leg work out to muscle specifics. ie, leg ext, leg curls, abduct/aduct work, with grueling drop sets to keep them firing. Do that for 2 leg workout weeks then go back. Muscle memory rocks girl, and we've gotta be kind to those mugs. Hope any of this helps,
happy squatting,
train hard
~g~