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Cain says God persuaded him to run for president
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Evil people will go to great lengths to appear good. They hide their motives with lies. You're right though. Most of them are fine.
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Spartacus
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it seems to me so as I age
when I was young and so clever
I called religion "a myth"
my experience now is there are evil fucks
all over
can you see them?
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Spartacus
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just like my conversation with the angel
"he can hear us"
I quess he couldn't so we contiued to chat
it's the feeling I got that's most paramount
you have to remain strong in the face of doubt
and use what you have been shown whether it be in the last 10 minutes
or your entire lifetime
you will have to cast a vote for yourself
"he can hear us"
I quess he couldn't so we contiued to chat
it's the feeling I got that's most paramount
you have to remain strong in the face of doubt
and use what you have been shown whether it be in the last 10 minutes
or your entire lifetime
you will have to cast a vote for yourself
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Spartacus
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I'm trying to nail down the facts and you're being all wishy washy
projection?
javaguru
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Oh, so back in the day, when taxes were 70-90% for the upper class (1930s to 1980s), no one was trying what you call "tax mitigation strategies". Or even During Bush 1 to Clinton, when the top tax rate was higher than now (39%).
But now that the black guy is President, and taxes for the rich are historically low, while their income is historically high, the rich are more motivated than ever to implement these strategies?
BZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
SORRY. PLEASE TRY AGAIN.
JFK on lowering taxes...
Likewise, under Bill Clinton personal tax rates increased but revenue increased because capital gains were decreased at the same time.
You're trying to analyze the issue strictly on tax rates as opposed to revenue. Revenue increased when rates were lowered under Kennedy, Reagan and Clinton (capital gains).
On a sidebar..Clinton created the super rich advantage all the lefties complain about by making it attractive to pay executives with stock options because of the lower capital gains tax.
The issue with the tax system as far as I'm concerned is the fact there are carve outs created by lobbyists and politicians for their patrons.
Headholio
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Bwahhh ha ha. What did Kennedy lower tax rates to? Top rate from 91% to 77% !!!
Taxes can be too high, and taxes can be too low. It doesn't make sense to argue "raise taxes" or "lower taxes" without context. What I'm doing is calling BS on the Republican lies of 39% top rate being socialistic and a job killer.
You want to listen to dead Presidents, here's a more appropriate quote; Ronnie Reagan on the rich paying their fair share.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbJ-Fs1ikA&feature=player_embedded#!
Revenue boomed under Clinton because the economy boomed, under the 39% percent socialist (ha ha) top rate. It totally disproves the republican BS. The argument is not that raising taxes causes growth, Its simply that raising taxes isn't proven to kill growth, and the healthiest economies in our history had higher and more progressive tax rates.
And the contention that Capital gains tax rates had anything to do with economic boom of the 90's is wrong. Capital gains tax under Clinton went up in 90 and 93, and down in 97.
The point is simply that Republicans refusal to compromise on revenue and taxation is obstructionist and an effort to harm America for political gain.
When the Republicans lowered the top rate to 35% under Bush, they put a 10 year limit on it, saying explicitly that it had to be reviewed in 10 years to insure that the loss in revenue did not result in a debt increase. Republicsns 10 years ago had so much more sense than Republicans today.
Headholio
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Yeah I know. And I presume you don't use it in the context of racists or birthers as a way of showing Obama as a foreigner with a secret identity. As long as you use it as a term of endearment, which I'm sure you do, I'm ok with it.
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