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The zimmerman telegram was such a political fail, Woodrow was looking to get in on the blood and guts and this tipped his hand and helped turn the populace against germany...which up to this point had been largely indifferent or pro-german...the lithstansia (sp) sinking was another critical point, but honestly it was a scam too, the ship was clearly shipping cladestine armaments and thus was a legit target for germany mercahnt hunters.
and i don't believe a peace different than vesailles in ww1 would've prevented ww2 entirely...would this peace have included returning all of germany's eastern gains made via the peace with russia (under russia's duress?) cause if it wouldn't have sooner or later when the russian's regrouped that would've been a point of contention solved by invasion...lenin was biding his time...and if germany did give back the eastern lands their desire for lebensraum would've pushed them east eventually leading to conflict with russia and their western allies.
how would this non-versailles peace solved belgiums netrality violations, or alsace-lorraine?
or what about turkey and their empire...without the treaty the breakup of this juggernaut would've spurred conflict between the western nations
If you examine the outcome of the Armistice that lead to the rebirth of Poland and countries formed by the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian empire...all spontaneous.It may have been inevitable but it would probably have been more controlled...like the break up of the British Empire. The idea of a Jewish lead fifth column that created a revolution in Germany and the myth they hadn't been defeated in the field based on the assertion no allied soldier ever set foot in Germany; It was the rallying cry of Hitler and other nationalists.

France ceased to field an effective fighting force after Verdun...the German plan of attrition warfare succeed with France and they had to deal with revolts among the ranks. The interjection of fresh soldiers from the United States just ensured an outcome that was influenced by what was essentially a disinterested party. Had the Americans not intervened then the British would have been left to do the fighting and I suspect France and England would have agreed to go back to pre-1914 borders. After all, WWI was a war created by entangling alliances...Thomas Jefferson was a political philosopher of the first order.


As far as Russia/Soviet Union was concerned..The allies not only didn't favor Soviet communism but actually created an expeditionary force they sent to Russia to stop the revolution.The German military planners could have ended the Soviet Union quickly based on their land gains achieved through their treaty. Hell, had Hitler entered the Ukraine as a liberator and not an ideological racist Germany might have beaten Stalin.
 
Lol...Now jealousy will get you nowhere, didn't they teach you that on Walton Mountain? Jesus will punish you... Why you trying to disparage the greatest organization in the history of the world?? The Marines left Iraq 2 yrs ago because there was no one left to kill, they left the Army back to do head counts..Damn, it took them 2 yrs to count all them KIAs... They are just leaving.. Lol..

Now, Murderers' Row are in Afghan showing Al-Qaeda love... Foaming at the mouth with 2ft erections like a pack wild crazed maniacs---committing genocide everywhere we go... and delivering every dictators head straight to the Oval Office.. Wiping out ecosystems, because our name is called "disturbance." Just like we did in 1991.. ONE-NINE RODE-OUT IN NINE-ONE!!

I suppose all your policies are spoken through them lame YouTube Videos--- that a boy, let everyone else do the talking and walking for you.. Just like I did the walking for you in Desert Storm.. I know you are a "conscientious objector."

Lol @ Jefferson not conning Napoleon...

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The wonderful love of a beautiful maid,
The love of a staunch true man,
The love of a baby, unafraid,
Have existed since time began.

But the greatest of loves, The quintessence of loves.
even greater than that of a mother,
Is the tender, passionate, infinite love,
of one drunken Marine for another.

"Semper Fidelis"

General Louis H. Wilson
Commandant of the Marine Corps
Toast given at 203rd Marine Corps Birthday Ball
Camp Lejueune, N.C. 1978

lololl..Al Queda is in Pakistan and Yemen...wrong country rob and if you look at the order of battle the United States Army does the heavy lifting....as usual, killing peasant farmers with no training is what you brag about...What a proud tradition.

LOL @ genocide being something to brag about...I suspected you had a mental illness but I didn't realize you're a sociopath.
 
If you examine the outcome of the Armistice that lead to the rebirth of Poland and countries formed by the collapse of the Austro-Hungarian empire...all spontaneous.It may have been inevitable but it would probably have been more controlled...like the break up of the British Empire. The idea of a Jewish lead fifth column that created a revolution in Germany and the myth they hadn't been defeated in the field based on the assertion no allied soldier ever set foot in Germany; It was the rallying cry of Hitler and other nationalists.

France ceased to field an effective fighting force after Verdun...the German plan of attrition warfare succeed with France and they had to deal with revolts among the ranks. The interjection of fresh soldiers from the United States just ensured an outcome that was influenced by what was essentially a disinterested party. Had the Americans not intervened then the British would have been left to do the fighting and I suspect France and England would have agreed to go back to pre-1914 borders. After all, WWI was a war created by entangling alliances...Thomas Jefferson was a political philosopher of the first order.


As far as Russia/Soviet Union was concerned..The allies not only didn't favor Soviet communism but actually created an expeditionary force they sent to Russia to stop the revolution.The German military planners could have ended the Soviet Union quickly based on their land gains achieved through their treaty. Hell, had Hitler entered the Ukraine as a liberator and not an ideological racist Germany might have beaten Stalin.
germany was never going to be content with pre-1914 boundaries...they would've re-grouped and attacked sooner imo.
so britian backs off, and allows a euro power to grow strong and disrupt the british balance of how euroland should behave? that, combined with german naval ambitions, were completely anathema to the british view of the world, sooner or later it would've lead to blows with or without the treaty...imo the treaty in a way prevented the german military machine from reaching full capacity (which according to goring and speer was 1945ish...without the treaty a lot sooner i bet).
and my guess is slavic nationalism would've propelled the eastern provinces to chaff at german colonialism and sooner or later they would've been brought into the russian sphere.
ww2 was inevitable, but the degree of conflict is debatable i suppose
 
germany was never going to be content with pre-1914 boundaries...they would've re-grouped and attacked sooner imo.
so britian backs off, and allows a euro power to grow strong and disrupt the british balance of how euroland should behave? that, combined with german naval ambitions, were completely anathema to the british view of the world, sooner or later it would've lead to blows with or without the treaty...imo the treaty in a way prevented the german military machine from reaching full capacity (which according to goring and speer was 1945ish...without the treaty a lot sooner i bet).
and my guess is slavic nationalism would've propelled the eastern provinces to chaff at german colonialism and sooner or later they would've been brought into the russian sphere.
ww2 was inevitable, but the degree of conflict is debatable i suppose


addendum (sp)- if the weimar republic would've curbed the aristocratic/junker class' influence, things could've worked out differently...their linkage with the nazi party is what propelled the conflict...
 
germany was never going to be content with pre-1914 boundaries...they would've re-grouped and attacked sooner imo.
so britian backs off, and allows a euro power to grow strong and disrupt the british balance of how euroland should behave? that, combined with german naval ambitions, were completely anathema to the british view of the world, sooner or later it would've lead to blows with or without the treaty...imo the treaty in a way prevented the german military machine from reaching full capacity (which according to goring and speer was 1945ish...without the treaty a lot sooner i bet).
and my guess is slavic nationalism would've propelled the eastern provinces to chaff at german colonialism and sooner or later they would've been brought into the russian sphere.
ww2 was inevitable, but the degree of conflict is debatable i suppose

Kaiser Wilhem made a last minute appeal to the general staff for a way to make a peace deal before the Schlieffen Plan was conducted but the plan was so precise that mobilizing the army didn't allow any deviation from the plan. The common wisdom among historians is that Germany was a warmonger country and even prominent historians of the day made racist comments that the German character was prone to war.

They were late to establish a nation state and likewise late to establishing a colonial empire but it doesn't mean the United States should have supported England over Germany. The United States fought two wars against England and they were the dominant colonial power of recent history...Of course England promoted every avenue to have the United States fight a war in their interest; That's what Saudi Arabia and Israel have been doing. Exactly how was Stalin a better partner than Hitler? The only reason Hitler invaded France was because they guaranteed the sovereignty of Poland...long held German lands; Germany just paid off their Versailles debt to the French...that was a major talking point for the nationalists of the day...


WWII was only inevitable in the sense that Germany has always been squeezed by its neighbors. Napoleon made his reputation on piles of Prussian corpses while they faced Austria-Hungary and Russia. England never had to face the invasions and brutality Germans endured during the Thirty Years War.
 
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