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digitizedsoul

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So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha
 
digitizedsoul said:
So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

I'm glad you got over your gyno issue. Needto is da man!
 
good shit!
 
digitizedsoul said:
So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha


what cycle was it from , how was the protocol?
 
The gyno was from what I believe to have been a combination of things.

First I did a stupid M1T cycle (not knowing wtf I was doing back then). No PCT at all and I did random doses again because I Was ignorant.

After about 6 months, I did my first real sust250 / eq cycle with Dbol's first half and winny second half. Results were phenomenal, but afterwards (again no PCT) I started getting mild gyno which has hung around ever since (3+yrs)
 
digitizedsoul said:
So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha


refresh us on this gyno removal protocol,,,,how did you run the LETRO and NOLVA?
 
needtogetaas said:
Its a trade mark bro. He can't tell you :evil:

Oh come on that sucks I have the same issue. This is really interesting cause I was told gyno does not go away if you keep it for so many year. Only surgery will remove it.
 
elcamello said:
Oh come on that sucks I have the same issue. This is really interesting cause I was told gyno does not go away if you keep it for so many year. Only surgery will remove it.
Most of the time that is true, but not always.

Just think of it like this. My wife has a nice set of tits, Fairly nice size. this on time she went on this birth control and a few months latter her tits were almost completely gone. Now my wife has had them tits sense she was real young. No she did not loose weight or fat she stayed the same, but her tits were shrinking to the point where she almost had non at all. She switched her birth control and it took about a year or so but she got her tits back. Not really though they are still not as big as they used to be.

So what makes tits grow on a women. hmmmm well the same damn thing it takes to make tits grow on a man.

If you look at sex change hormone therapy for males and females you will see
that with out surgery they can give a man tits or make a girl have no tits at all. all by manipulating the same four hormones.
1. Estrogen=first step to growing tits
2. Prolactin=develops the mammary glands and increases fat storage in the breasts
3. Progesterone=promotes gland formation
4. Growth Hormone=assists with the growth of the entire body, including the breasts. This one is not so importent. unless you are trying to become a women lol.

Looking at this one could say if you really want some tits just run a nice cycle of deca all by its self lol. throw in a little gh and you're good to go. There is no other factors to growing and shrinking breast or breast lumps. Not to my knowledge any way. Now this does not always work and it dos not work for every one in the time frame they would like. For some it can take up to a year but IMO all gyno can be removed with out surgery

Crush Estrogen,smash Prolactin,and cut out the Progesterone. Some times it takes prolonged treatment. This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.
 
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needtogetaas said:
This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.


Amen brother.

So if my girlfriend wants big tits can I get her on some OTC stuff to up those horomones? I don't think she'd be keen on deca lol
 
digitizedsoul said:
Amen brother.

So if my girlfriend wants big tits can I get her on some OTC stuff to up those horomones? I don't think she'd be keen on deca lol
lmao
 
Congratulations bro. But watch out, it can come back quick if you don't serm your cycles from now on. Don't even attempt another cycle without an AE or AI ever again.

I say this from personal letro-remideated gyno experience.
 
digitizedsoul said:
Amen brother.

So if my girlfriend wants big tits can I get her on some OTC stuff to up those horomones? I don't think she'd be keen on deca lol
Yes in fact there is natural products that will do this. Its not something I ever wanted to look into,but I know of them. I will look into it for you if you like.
 
needtogetaas said:
Yes in fact there is natural products that will do this. Its not something I ever wanted to look into,but I know of them. I will look into it for you if you like.


Sure bro, its something i'd like to educate myself on simply for the ability of sharing that knowledge. Especially if this is something that could or would actually produce results for women who already look great, but just want a more balanced "womanly" physique.
 
perryscoon said:
Congratulations bro. But watch out, it can come back quick if you don't serm your cycles from now on. Don't even attempt another cycle without an AE or AI ever again.

I say this from personal letro-remideated gyno experience.

Word I never knew you fought with it perry. Good stuff and yeah I won't even touch A cycle without having some nearby "just in case" lol.

I just can't believe its almost completely gone!
 
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still on it 9 weeks in,deca 400 and sus 500

been on letro almost 2 weeks and has def helped

p.s all of a sudden strength has shot way up this week,my lifting goals have already been met
 
This is a great thread. Thanks for all the great info!!!
 
nutshairy said:
needto.....should i be using nolva as well as letro for my gyno issues???????
i have plenty on hand 20 mg


No need for nolva while on letro. Leto kills like 95% of all estrogen so its over kill to begin with, but you need to run novla as soon as you stop the letro to counter estrogen rebound.
 
Sorry to bother but reading this has caused me some concern :

1. I was told that if using tren, clomid is the best thing to use for pct - as well as hcg - does this sound correct?
2. if this is correct, is there a way to combat the gyno that I may already have from a few years ago winstrol stint I went on with no pct?
 
needtogetaas said:
Most of the time that is true, but not always.

Just think of it like this. My wife as a nice set of tits. Fairly nice size. this on time she went on this birth control and a few months latter her tits were almost completely gone. Now my wife has had them tits sense she was real young.

No she did not loose weight or fat she stayed the same, but her tits were shrinking to the point where she almost had non at all.

She switched her birth control and it took about a year or so but she got her tits back. Not really though they still not as big as they used to be.

So what makes tits grow on a women. hmmmm well the same damn thing it takes to make tits grow on a man.

If you look at sex change hormone therapy for males and females you will see
that with out surgery they can give a man tits or make a girl have no tits at all. all by manipulating the same four hormones.
1. Estrogen=first step to growing tits
2. Prolactin=develops the mammary glands and increases fat storage in the breasts
3. Progesterone=promotes gland formation
4. Growth Hormone=assists with the growth of the entire body, including the breasts. This one is not so importent. unless you are trying to become a women lol.

Looking at this one could say if you really want some tits just run a nice cycle of deca all by its self lol. throw in a little gh and you're good to go.


There is no other factors to growing and shrinking breast or breast lumps. Not to my knowledge any way.

Now this dos no always work and it dos not work for every one. Some women that want to be men have to get surgery and same for some men that want to be a women.

Crush Estrogen,smash Prolactin,and cut out the Progesterone. Some times it takes prolonged treatment. This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.

Thanks needto it makes sense. So if I was to do this protocol if I cycle again I always have to use an AI for my cycles.
 
herblcure said:
Sorry to bother but reading this has caused me some concern :

1. I was told that if using tren, clomid is the best thing to use for pct - as well as hcg - does this sound correct?
2. if this is correct, is there a way to combat the gyno that I may already have from a few years ago winstrol stint I went on with no pct?
Just send me a pm bro.
 
digitizedsoul said:
So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

Can you shoot us the original thread or tell us what the recomendation was?
 
i agree...is there a way we can post the original thread...or the dosages that you guys used for the letro/nolva combo
 
Yeah the thread I found referenced a case almost verbatim to my own. This is why I found it worked so well for me.

As needto said though, it really is a case by case basis. As he stated there are several "pathways" and responsible horomones that can all lead to gyno. Eliminating it depends on which one is causing the most issue for YOU, hence his case by case approach.


Needto man I gotta hand it to you, helping these bro's out one on one like that is grounds for serious respect / props. I send both your way my friend (since you already have infinite K) lol.
 
so all you took was letro and nolva.. what about just letro?? And how long does it take before your pecker starts to work again
 
Lol. I started my letro / nolva as part of my PCT from my "Super duper legal stack V1.0"
 
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I think I got like 20000000000 served and happy since this thread was made lol... Keep the pm's coming my friends I am more then happy to help you with this kind of problem.
 
So I used the plat week membership that swole threw at me & did a search while i still had it for letro clearing up old gyno (since i'd heard this).

I came across a wonderful thread by needto on gyno elimination using letro / nolva. I gave it a whirl when I started PCT and wow 2 weeks in its nearly completely gone! My chest has never looked better in a wife beater!

PROPS NEEDTO!!!!!!!!!!

Nice new avatar by the way, but I keep missing your posts because i'm looking for freakin green man every time hahaha

any time man I love to help.
 
I Will deff get to it bro. Just give me a bit of time. You are some where in the middle of 300 other pm's I got in the last 2 days. I am working on them now but when i get backed up they just keep piling up on me as i get to them lol..
 
Most of the time that is true, but not always.

Just think of it like this. My wife has a nice set of tits, Fairly nice size. this on time she went on this birth control and a few months latter her tits were almost completely gone. Now my wife has had them tits sense she was real young. No she did not loose weight or fat she stayed the same, but her tits were shrinking to the point where she almost had non at all. She switched her birth control and it took about a year or so but she got her tits back. Not really though they are still not as big as they used to be.

So what makes tits grow on a women. hmmmm well the same damn thing it takes to make tits grow on a man.

If you look at sex change hormone therapy for males and females you will see
that with out surgery they can give a man tits or make a girl have no tits at all. all by manipulating the same four hormones.
1. Estrogen=first step to growing tits
2. Prolactin=develops the mammary glands and increases fat storage in the breasts
3. Progesterone=promotes gland formation
4. Growth Hormone=assists with the growth of the entire body, including the breasts. This one is not so importent. unless you are trying to become a women lol.

Looking at this one could say if you really want some tits just run a nice cycle of deca all by its self lol. throw in a little gh and you're good to go. There is no other factors to growing and shrinking breast or breast lumps. Not to my knowledge any way. Now this does not always work and it dos not work for every one in the time frame they would like. For some it can take up to a year but IMO all gyno can be removed with out surgery

Crush Estrogen,smash Prolactin,and cut out the Progesterone. Some times it takes prolonged treatment. This can come with a slew of side effects though, but as most men will tell you they rather deal with the sides then have tits.

gee I been saying this since 2007-2008. Now people are writing Articals about it and claiming it as there own Ideas lamo... Let the record show I was the first to bring this Idea forth. This post long long before the date of the new Articles stealing the info.
 
Just send me a pm. Most people have different cases and different causes. I like to handle this person by person.

do i need a certain amount of posts to be able to pm? im a long time member first time poster lol i joined like 2yrs ago from memory just never posted and forgot i was a member. Anyways im here now and id like to know how to get rid of my dreaded gyno with out surgery! ive had it for yrs now, its been bad for about 3-4 yrs and i thought that surgery was my only option... thanks
 
do i need a certain amount of posts to be able to pm? im a long time member first time poster lol i joined like 2yrs ago from memory just never posted and forgot i was a member. Anyways im here now and id like to know how to get rid of my dreaded gyno with out surgery! ive had it for yrs now, its been bad for about 3-4 yrs and i thought that surgery was my only option... thanks

They would like you to think that. But no the fact is "all" gyno can be removed with drugs and supplements. ALL of it. However some gyno can take a really long time to get rid of and as humans ( Americans being the worst) we want things to happen right away and lose interest,faith,hope when this does not happen..

Some cases need a low dose of nolva for 7 8 months. I have worked with a guy like this and although the first blast treatment took most of it away. It was not until 7 months of 10mg ed nolva that he woke up one day and it was gone. He called me hysterically telling me how great he felt and how much better his life was going to be now. Thanked me and asked if there was anything he could do for me... Like always I said yes you can tell as many people as you can about what happen.

I am not sitting here trying to make money of this. I dont ask for a dime, and I dont expect it. I am simple helping people and proving a point. If you trust me and do what I say some day you will wake up and your gyno will be gone. This may mean you cant cycle the kind of steroids you want for a long time, or you will have to stay on something for a wile. But sooner or later if you are doing what I say the gyno will go away.

Of course I have some failed cases but mostly this is just people who wanted so badly to do a cycle of what they wanted to do, could not wait any longer or what ever. Maybe I felt like I was not getting through to them so I just said :ya sure do what you want" to the cycle they wanted to do and kept hounding me about it...

So can I do this cycle? So ya I was thinking I am going to do this cycle? Ok I was doing what you said but I stopped taking this and now I am taking that. Ya so I got this cycle planed do you think my gyno will be gone by then because i really want to do this and blah blah blah..

Most of the time if not all of the time you will see a huge reduction in the first week or two and up to a month. More then half the time it can be completely wiped out with in a month. for the other cases that is when I start to see some failed cases because its these cases of gyno that it totally depends on the persons willingness to keep doing what I am telling them to do for as long as it takes. With out wanting to vary from the plan..

Now if some one wants to take a cycle during this time. What they need to do is not just jump on any damn cycle they feel like it and then expect me to fix it up for them ( hate that crap). But rather come to me and ask if I can put together a gyno reduction cycle for them... Because there are steroid cycles that you can do that will not only give you some great gains but at the same time help out with reducing the gyno..

1-8 privirone 25mg every day
1-8 var 40mg every day
1-8 dostinex .5mg every other day
1-8 adex .5mg every other day


something like this is a easy cycle you can throw into the middle. But if you keep houding me about wanting to do a test cycle even though I know its not going to help you in anway and will prob make things worse no matter what the hell you run with it. I will prob just say o ya man go ahead do what you want. Because a simple know from experience your not going to shut the hell up about it till I just say ya sure go ahead.

But some times I get lucky and the person will pick up where they left off, or just keep doing what I say the whole time. :qt:
 
They would like you to think that. But no the fact is "all" gyno can be removed with drugs and supplements. ALL of it. However some gyno can take a really long time to get rid of and as humans ( Americans being the worst) we want things to happen right away and lose interest,faith,hope when this does not happen..

Some cases need a low dose of nolva for 7 8 months. I have worked with a guy like this and although the first blast treatment took most of it away. It was not until 7 months of 10mg ed nolva that he woke up one day and it was gone. He called me hysterically telling me how great he felt and how much better his life was going to be now. Thanked me and asked if there was anything he could do for me... Like always I said yes you can tell as many people as you can about what happen.

I am not sitting here trying to make money of this. I dont ask for a dime, and I dont expect it. I am simple helping people and proving a point. If you trust me and do what I say some day you will wake up and your gyno will be gone. This may mean you cant cycle the kind of steroids you want for a long time, or you will have to stay on something for a wile. But sooner or later if you are doing what I say the gyno will go away.

Of course I have some failed cases but mostly this is just people who wanted so badly to do a cycle of what they wanted to do, could not wait any longer or what ever. Maybe I felt like I was not getting through to them so I just said :ya sure do what you want" to the cycle they wanted to do and kept hounding me about it...

So can I do this cycle? So ya I was thinking I am going to do this cycle? Ok I was doing what you said but I stopped taking this and now I am taking that. Ya so I got this cycle planed do you think my gyno will be gone by then because i really want to do this and blah blah blah..

Most of the time if not all of the time you will see a huge reduction in the first week or two and up to a month. More then half the time it can be completely wiped out with in a month. for the other cases that is when I start to see some failed cases because its these cases of gyno that it totally depends on the persons willingness to keep doing what I am telling them to do for as long as it takes. With out wanting to vary from the plan..

Now if some one wants to take a cycle during this time. What they need to do is not just jump on any damn cycle they feel like it and then expect me to fix it up for them ( hate that crap). But rather come to me and ask if I can put together a gyno reduction cycle for them... Because there are steroid cycles that you can do that will not only give you some great gains but at the same time help out with reducing the gyno..

1-8 privirone 25mg every day
1-8 var 40mg every day
1-8 dostinex .5mg every other day
1-8 adex .5mg every other day


something like this is a easy cycle you can throw into the middle. But if you keep houding me about wanting to do a test cycle even though I know its not going to help you in anway and will prob make things worse no matter what the hell you run with it. I will prob just say o ya man go ahead do what you want. Because a simple know from experience your not going to shut the hell up about it till I just say ya sure go ahead.

But some times I get lucky and the person will pick up where they left off, or just keep doing what I say the whole time. :qt:

pm'd u just waiting on your next reply.

Man if it means i cant cycle for the next 20yrs i dont care! i really just want them gone. the fatty part of them im working on now to reduce my bf levels. cardio and dieting so i have lost some BF but once i get it low enough i hope i can get rid of the tissue too... thanks for all your help so far!
 
pm'd u just waiting on your next reply.

Man if it means i cant cycle for the next 20yrs i dont care! i really just want them gone. the fatty part of them im working on now to reduce my bf levels. cardio and dieting so i have lost some BF but once i get it low enough i hope i can get rid of the tissue too... thanks for all your help so far!

Any time my man
 
Needtogetaas,

If I had to completely come off I would do it. I personally don't come off and would rather not, but anything to get rid of my boobies!
 
Need to has been working with me via Pm , Im just waiting for the rest of my goodies to come in so I can atempt to attack this damm gyno.

Glad to hear the good reviews.

Gyno is a huge bummer and ive had this thing since I was 15-16, make sure your pct is in check guys. Trust me you DONT want to deal with this crap.
 
wow after i see how many people needto helped I also pm'd him. Really does suck having gyno. I had it from during my early teens and i'm 20 now. I've never done a cycle of steroids or nething and the gyno isntt hugeee but i rly cant wear close fitted clothes without being conscious, cus it's visible, damn annoying too
 
Hi there.

I have a gyno problem.Can you help me please?

About 3 years ago I wanted to start with bodybuilding. So I did my first cycle Deca 300 and sust 350. I was pretty stupid back then ..... also skipped my pct.

So then I got a girlfriend. She took up all of my gym time !!! HAHA. just joking. My studies took up to much of my time and I had to stop my gym account.After this my chest fat increased a lot and I have noticed lumps underneath my nipples.They were tender at a stage and there were also coming milk out of them.

In the beginning of this year the milk stopped and they are not so sensitive anymore. But I still have these small lumps and fat in my chest.

I went to the endocrinologist 2 weeks ago. He prescribed me arimidex and ralaxofine , I have been using it for a week but I don't see any major changes. Do you think it will work ?

Two days I have decided to get back into the gym and back into shape :)

Thanks for your time
Brendon

Sent from my GT-N7105 using EliteFitness
 
Gyno can be a real bitch! What I did for my gyno because it looked horrible. I was shame to look in the mirrors at the gym even though I was doing well. I said, "Dude you need a bra"
I stopped all supplements and steroids and went on a 30 water fast! Sure I lost weight and that damn gyno too.
Training bra size! Yikes!
 
Gyno can be a real bitch! What I did for my gyno because it looked horrible. I was shame to look in the mirrors at the gym even though I was doing well. I said, "Dude you need a bra"
I stopped all supplements and steroids and went on a 30 water fast! Sure I lost weight and that damn gyno too.
Training bra size! Yikes!

Hey guys. I've been injecting 2,000-3,000mg/ml of testosterone and SuperTest a month going on seven years in January, 2013.
A long cruise! I don't have any swellings, puffiness, ozing, or any pain. So what gives with you blokes? Injecting too much and not taking any anti-estrogens on a daily basis?


both cool stories
 
Can this really be done, using only supplements and meds? Mine is pretty mild and I've had it since teen years. Its borderline, not enough to pursue surgery. Would love to be rid of it though.
 
I have tried to PM needto but it says he is no longer accepting messages. I would like his advise, i have been contemplating surgery with the money of my student loans but thought i would run it through you first. I have had gyno for about 5-6years now. I feel a little bit of hardness in the left chest and a little more in the right chest maybe the size of a small walnut but when i tighten the chest it almost feels like soft fat around the nipple instead of the hardness feeling. I used to have tenderness in the area but have not had any tenderness for a couple of years now. I am about 5'9 180lbs. I do cardio quite often and lift as well. Diet is on point but is not really reducing the gyno. You are my last resort to change my life around before the surgery option. I am not on any cycles and do not plan on taking any cycles in the near future. If you can help me on what i need to buy, where, how much i should buy and how much i should take and for how long words could not describe how thankful i would be
 
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