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Bunk QV now circulating!
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macrophage69alpha
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lot #'s
products?
products?
macrophage69alpha
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is this information verfied by testing, rumor or anecdotal reports?
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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macrophage69alpha said:
as far as i know this is a rumor
useless w/out pics
Themachine01
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I dont even know what the deal is with QV. What exactly happened with them if anything. If something did go down with QV then I really wouldnt even go near the stuff.
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ALIN
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any pics of these QV fakes?
There was a rumor floating around last year about workers stealing the holograms and boxes and making the fake gear. I wouldnt trust any mexican product..Stick with the Euro, US, & Canadian gear.
ALIN said:
There using real holograms and packaging so pics wouldnt do much good i dont think.........Im just getting this info from a reliable source. I think ive been around long enuff that you guys can trust my sources. Hey, i hope im wrong. But what do u think the likely hood of that is? Workers stealing packaging has happend before in cases were the owners werent arrested. These were, so it seems pretty damn likely this would be true.
This is just a heads up tho, or something to at least keep in mind when purchasing QV products or any other lab for that matter from Mexico.
I will add to what "galaxy' is saying....I myself went down a couple of weeks ago and brought back a good bit of stuff.....2 of the 8 bottles of 100 75MG QV Anadrol I brought back is bunk gear.
Funny thing is that the LOT numbers on the bottles that have the crap in them are the same as the numbers on the real bottles...I found this out after talking to all the reciepients of the stuff.
Funny thing is that the LOT numbers on the bottles that have the crap in them are the same as the numbers on the real bottles...I found this out after talking to all the reciepients of the stuff.
DarkEnigma
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Thank God for reputable UG labs....I enjoyed QV products too. I bought some of the QV sust a while back and out of two 5cc bottles, I got 4 cc's out of each...so I think their quality was kinda going downhill anyway.
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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post picsPahrump said:
c3bodybuilding
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I think Galaxy has been around long enough to be trusted. If he says this, then it's for real. In my opinion, I wouldn't go near any vet products right now. It's not a good time for us, but there's always human grade (I know, I know, it's pricey) or UG labs (and yes, there are tons of good ones in operation right now. just do your research.). Either way, play it safe my brothers. Times are tough right now.
Sanel27
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galaxy said:There using real holograms and packaging so pics wouldnt do much good i dont think.........Im just getting this info from a reliable source. I think ive been around long enuff that you guys can trust my sources. Hey, i hope im wrong. But what do u think the likely hood of that is? Workers stealing packaging has happend before in cases were the owners werent arrested. These were, so it seems pretty damn likely this would be true.
This is just a heads up tho, or something to at least keep in mind when purchasing QV products or any other lab for that matter from Mexico.
Damn bro, even though it seems as if im a newbie, i have been a member of this site for 2 and a half years, had to change the nickname due to an asshole friend of mine.
So far galaxy has been dependent and as standup bro as they come.................but damn this is bad news for me as i got some QV deca and QV test and was about to do a bulker very soon.
Now im bitch-scared.............
Also i read in MD that those fuckers (DEA) took down 8 labs:
QV, Tornell, Denkall, Pet Pharm and the others down and there were pics with agents with DEA shirts arresting people all over.
But i dont understand guys, steroids are legal in Mexico, so what is the fuken problem..............................
Sorry about expletives, im pissed off i got QV gear and no balls to shoot it up
I would just be leary of deals that are too good to be true. I know a couple mex sources who have been slow to respond and are only selling certain products as stock dried up. So sources that were distributors are probably good to go, with what they have left and the ones i know of are stand up guys who arent going to sell u crap. If your source is a pharmacy owner than u might have something to be concerned about?
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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post picsgalaxy said:There in legit vials, with legit labels. They look legit. A picture isnt going to tell you anything?
TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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TheAssholeFomerlyKnownAsDBBT
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seems like no one has themmacrophage69alpha said:
This makes sense because.............
I recently got an updated list from an old vet inside Mexico......this is a little fishy because he has a shit load of stock and his prices have dropped about 25% ????
I recently got an updated list from an old vet inside Mexico......this is a little fishy because he has a shit load of stock and his prices have dropped about 25% ????
PRoXoNEtAPiMpbitch
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anyone has the link to that DEA operation in Mexico?
I live in mexico, I can do some research here...
hope it helps
I live in mexico, I can do some research here...
hope it helps
taste-icles
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Dammit, so this means even I need to find an ug source 
So what is the general deal, what was shutdown?
DEA Website: http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr121505.html
PARTICIPATING AGENCIES
Drug Enforcement Administration Internal Revenue Service –
Criminal Investigation Division United States Marshals Service United States Postal Inspection Service United States
Olympic Committee Laboratory
University of California at Davis, School of Veterinary Medicine
Mexican Law Enforcement PGR -
Organized Crime Unit San Diego Police Department
San Diego Sheriff's Department
So what is the general deal, what was shutdown?
DEA Website: http://www.dea.gov/pubs/pressrel/pr121505.html
the feds said:
PARTICIPATING AGENCIES
Drug Enforcement Administration Internal Revenue Service –
Criminal Investigation Division United States Marshals Service United States Postal Inspection Service United States
Olympic Committee Laboratory
University of California at Davis, School of Veterinary Medicine
Mexican Law Enforcement PGR -
Organized Crime Unit San Diego Police Department
San Diego Sheriff's Department
QV, Denkall and Animal Power were shut down originally i believe. Now all of them are due to violating there SAGAR registration which allows them to import the powders. Mexican govt claims they werent aware QV , AP and etc were for human consumption. Tornel and Brovel are still up because they are considered vet gear and didnt violate the SAGAR licensing.
AP and QV just got to bold by putting email addys on there bottles. They just made it too easy for a high school kid to get there hands on gear. This is what attracted the attention of the US govt. You cant really fault the govt for that? Kids just shouldnt have that kind of accessibilty to gear. You know and i know gear is safe when done properly. But kids are sometime less than responsible and that would be an understatement.
AP and QV just got to bold by putting email addys on there bottles. They just made it too easy for a high school kid to get there hands on gear. This is what attracted the attention of the US govt. You cant really fault the govt for that? Kids just shouldnt have that kind of accessibilty to gear. You know and i know gear is safe when done properly. But kids are sometime less than responsible and that would be an understatement.
taste-icles
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yeah, i totally agree that the cavalier attitude of kids is the downfall. I read that the mind does not fully develop the area that weighs risk and reward until about age 25. I did not poke myself until I was 31. I studied the boards for years. Kids are resilient too, so sometimes the ability to rebound fools the little bastardsgalaxy said:
http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/DrugIssue/Features/Immature_Brain_Places_Teenagers_at_Risk_to_Drugs
k4u bro, not much but you deserve it
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Mr.X
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I am trying to get a pic of the "fake" QV, the problem is that they are using the real labels, holograms and bottles. We need to have a bottle tested - a suspect bottle.
taste-icles
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I called a guy I get human gear from, he still has these as Organon redijects which made me think...galaxy said:
So this leaves us all buying weak Organon gear?
I guess this makes Testoprim-d start looking good to some of you guys as a test option.
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Mr.X
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ocisbomb said:
or testing the product
taste-icles
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18ga! heck quit being a pussy and jab already, I use 18ga all the timeflex2win said:
j/k bro
Mr.X said:
How about I send you one of the suspected Anadrol tabs, and you get it tested and then post the results? Deal? I will send it out asap........
I am not here to BS anyone, just cause I am new to the board means nothing about my AAS history...I hope everyone understands that post counts does not represent your knowledge by anymeans...however I know that post count is often confused with knowledge here on the internet forums...weather it be steroids, cars, atvs...you name it......
Sounds good! I hope we can get this resolved. I've got a good relationship with my guy right now and don't wanna throw myself to the wolves again.
Let me touch on a few points that havent been hit on here yet...Since I have seen my fair share of MExian steroids over the years
First: I was just in Mexico last Thursday and there was almost NO QV gear available in ANY Tijuana graneros
I found some QV Stan50 and Tren and that was it
So anyone saying they are getting it from Mexico now I would wonder HOW??? as the graneros in Texas/MX border, and Cali/MX border are all but dried up now
Secondly (as Mr.X briefly touched on) Mexican PHARMACIES arent even legally allowed to sell Vet grade steroids...IMO THE most likely place you will get scammed in Mexico is buying Vet grade gear from a pharmacy.
I dont really buy this hype of "fake QV gear in real bottles" as there is NOTHING to be found in Mexico (trust me I went to nearly EVERY granero down there just 3 days ago and I could only find Pets Pharma and Sydgroup in any abundance...
A good rule of thumb with Mexi gear now is that if you had an old Mexi source you were uinsg then maybe you got lucky and he had alot of QV left still when the busts happened and thus can sustain for some time...But even that isnt very likely this far down the road now
First: I was just in Mexico last Thursday and there was almost NO QV gear available in ANY Tijuana graneros
I found some QV Stan50 and Tren and that was it
So anyone saying they are getting it from Mexico now I would wonder HOW??? as the graneros in Texas/MX border, and Cali/MX border are all but dried up now
Secondly (as Mr.X briefly touched on) Mexican PHARMACIES arent even legally allowed to sell Vet grade steroids
...IMO THE most likely place you will get scammed in Mexico is buying Vet grade gear from a pharmacy.I dont really buy this hype of "fake QV gear in real bottles" as there is NOTHING to be found in Mexico (trust me I went to nearly EVERY granero down there just 3 days ago and I could only find Pets Pharma and Sydgroup in any abundance...
A good rule of thumb with Mexi gear now is that if you had an old Mexi source you were uinsg then maybe you got lucky and he had alot of QV left still when the busts happened and thus can sustain for some time...But even that isnt very likely this far down the road now
bittersuit_98
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BLACKDOOG said:
Make no mistake guys....the DEA arrested a man that they THINK owns the lab. A friend of mine who lives in Mexico is buying direclty from the lab. they're still doing business and producing. As far as shutting the lab down, according to the mexican laws, no crime has been committed and no law has been broken at least none that deserves jail time. The only rumors I heard from Mexico is that mexican authorities are going to fine the labs involved for improper labeling and the fine goes anywhere frome 10,000 pesos - 35000 (1k to 3.5 k USDollars approx.). All of them easily overturnable in an administrative court of law. No biggie!!!
As far as the DEA I'm concerned....well not everything that shines means that is necessarily gold.
Nevertheless, stay away from the borders till the dust settles. Right now It's not worth it.
taste-icles
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Seems like the more I dig around my law enforcement buddies, it was all for show. They arrested a guy related on other charges, slapped the roids banner on his forehead and paraded it around like it was a big kill for them, guess again.bittersuit_98 said:
The labs' future is in limbo, though legit gear has been found as recent as 48 hours ago when a friend was in a place other than TJ. The general rule right now is cops are watching the vets to make the arrests of some guy to give a perp-walk, and make it seem like there is a tough stance so middle america can once again be safe from the evil roids. Stay away for atleast 6 months, yeah that is a long time, but I'll be betting by then there will be plenty of goodies out there.
The sources my friend spoke with say the future is going to be smarter labs and dealer channels because at the moment, manufacturing is down, BUT the research teams are still working on product development. Anyone else hear this rumor?
Just start buying Schering, and Organon for the time being. And get used to sust and testoprim gang.
The Terminator said:Let me touch on a few points that havent been hit on here yet...Since I have seen my fair share of MExian steroids over the years
First: I was just in Mexico last Thursday and there was almost NO QV gear available in ANY Tijuana graneros
I found some QV Stan50 and Tren and that was it
So anyone saying they are getting it from Mexico now I would wonder HOW??? as the graneros in Texas/MX border, and Cali/MX border are all but dried up now
Secondly (as Mr.X briefly touched on) Mexican PHARMACIES arent even legally allowed to sell Vet grade steroids
I dont really buy this hype of "fake QV gear in real bottles" as there is NOTHING to be found in Mexico (trust me I went to nearly EVERY granero down there just 3 days ago and I could only find Pets Pharma and Sydgroup in any abundance...
A good rule of thumb with Mexi gear now is that if you had an old Mexi source you were uinsg then maybe you got lucky and he had alot of QV left still when the busts happened and thus can sustain for some time...But even that isnt very likely this far down the road now
Wee seeing that we went down 4 weeks gao or so there WAS still some QV stuff floating around, I would assume now that it would indeed be harder to find.
I no you cannot buy Vet grade gear at pharmacies there only things like Nolva, clomid, clen, Sos, etc. All the vet grade stuff has to come from a vetenario......no need to try to school me I have been going to Mex and buying gear for the last 7 years from there.
Pahrump said:
I wasnt even referring to you at all
Looking closer at some of your posts though maybe I should be schooling you on it before you get somebody else into trouble
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bittersuit_98 said:
What lab? QV, Denkall, & AP are gone for good. Only ones left are brovel, syd, petpharma, fortdodge..There might be one or two more, but the big names are gone..
QV and Denkall counterfeits are circulating by IP. I posted pics over in the counterfeit steroid pics..
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ItalianMuscle27 said:
IP Sucks fat donkey cock
