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THIS POST HAS BEEN EDITED BY MACROPHAGE69ALPHA.

1. THIS ACCOUNT, TOEPRESS, HAS BEEN CREATED SOLELY TO ATTACK BULLSPERM AND WCP.

2. WCP IS NOT A FAULT FOR ANY ACTIONS, PROVEN OR NOT, OF BULLSPERM. WHILE HE MAY HAVE REFERRED YOU, HE IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACTIONS OF BULLSPERM.

3. SCAMMERS WILL APPEAR AT ANYTIME FOR VARIOUS REASONS, MANY GOOD SOURCES TURN SCAMMER.. IT IS JUST A FACT OF THE INTERNET AND DEALING OF ILLLICT DRUGS.

4. WCP HAS ANSWERED HIS POST IS ON PAGE 6

5. WCP TRYING TO "HELP' YOU TO GET RESOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEM IS NOT HELPING THE SCAMMER.. THE REFERRING PERSON WHO GENUINELY BELEIVED THAT THE SOURCE WAS STILL GOOD WOULD DO THIS... NOT TO KEEP YOU FROM CALLING THE GUY A SCAMMER, BUT TO HELP YOU.



I do not care that I am on the wrong board too bad.
This guy should be cut down before he can do any more business.
This guy shafted a lot of people and he is working with one of the MODS isn/t that Right WCP. This guy will string you along for weeks - telling you that he had problems with his contacts, his boss became sick at work, and so on. A real scum bag. I want people to try and make contact with him [email protected] and see what he states.
This guy took my cash and gave nothing in return accept months of agrivation.
He even will tell you he sent the items, but never gives you a tracking number even though he states that he will send you one.
I heard of shady happenings but MOds BEing IN on it You guys should all become small little geeks for this..
Why has he not e-mailed anyone what the fuck is this fag doing stealing more hard earned doe thats what... He should have his head beaten in. I still have his address that I sent my donations to maybe a nice line to the locals...:mad: :shoot: :redhot: :shoot: :destroy: :chainsaw:
 
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your man Y

Frackl this guy fucked alot of good people brought the reputation of the board right down to nothing and WCP the MOD is in with the scammer
 
Post his fucking info. We have locals everywhere! Someone in the area I'm sure has been scammed and is looking for a bit of payback.
 
This post will disappear soon but I knew that his associate went bad....man this guy has always been real good to me....sad shit.
 
When did he go bad??

He is out of PA.
He is a real shit stick banged me out of a lot of cash / not only that but jammed me up on my summer cycle....
 
Oh Ya

Do Not send any donations to a auto detailing shop in PA or nay secondary address in Canada

If you do you will never see anything
 
cocksucker got me too. release the info, i got rid of the address or i would.
 
Wow how suprising. I thought something was up when i got his list. I had emailed Mustang18, becuase i wanted to see if he new anyone the could get me nolvadex, for less than a $300 dollar minimum order. And her replied with this fuckers address. I had never hear of his so i shot him a email, and he replied with a list. He didn't even have it on there, and i was like WTF? Why did he send me a list for something i didn't even ask for?? I looked over the list, the prices seemed high so i just let it sit, since he didn't have what i wanted anyway. But since i'm telling this story anyway, mods....You need to be a little more selective with your souces, especially good ones. I think allot of you cause them to get bust with sprerading the word a little to freely. I also emailed MUSTANG18 about some liquidex, thats all i wanted. He sent me a name which was of a very good guy that i used before that is extemely reliable. I sure wouldn't like to think that he was passing his name off to every guy that asked "hey bro where can i get some liquidex". Because that guy sold AS, and there are plenty of people that sell just liduidex, or arrmidex in some form. Anyway reading your post made me think of all of this first thing this morning so there it is. Train hard and be safe.

EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER
 
I had an order that came in last week from a local source. My partner ordered from a different but reliable source. His order "GOT SIEZED" was what the source said. His source was supposedly a good friend. I think he is being screwed because he has yet to produce the siezure letter. It's sickening. It makes me want to forget about even doing all of this crap. People you think you know and trust screw you in a minute.

I know his source and he is living a high lifestyle. I don't trust anyone. I'm thinking this will be my last cycle when I'm done.

Fuck you scammers, you all suck scabby cocks.
 
Damn I emailed him like a week ago with a question about one of his products & heb replied right away.Glad I did not send him any cash.Hope you get things straightend out Bro..
 
hes got some of my flow to, ordered 3 months ago, he seems really nice when he keeps in touch and always felt promising that i would get my shit but i havent heard from him since last thurs...i hope dude gets his shit together...BTW is BS does end up scamming use its isjust as much the mods fault. Sorry but its true...I checked, double check, and e-mailed every mod b4 i used and most that responded gave me the ok....:(
 
EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER said:
Wow how suprising. I thought something was up when i got his list. I had emailed Mustang18, becuase i wanted to see if he new anyone the could get me nolvadex, for less than a $300 dollar minimum order. And her replied with this fuckers address. I had never hear of his so i shot him a email, and he replied with a list. He didn't even have it on there, and i was like WTF? Why did he send me a list for something i didn't even ask for?? I looked over the list, the prices seemed high so i just let it sit, since he didn't have what i wanted anyway. But since i'm telling this story anyway, mods....You need to be a little more selective with your souces, especially good ones. I think allot of you cause them to get bust with sprerading the word a little to freely. I also emailed MUSTANG18 about some liquidex, thats all i wanted. He sent me a name which was of a very good guy that i used before that is extemely reliable. I sure wouldn't like to think that he was passing his name off to every guy that asked "hey bro where can i get some liquidex". Because that guy sold AS, and there are plenty of people that sell just liduidex, or arrmidex in some form. Anyway reading your post made me think of all of this first thing this morning so there it is. Train hard and be safe.

EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER
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good post.. karma...
 
This guy is still taking orders? Shit he scammed me under a different name (which was also posted) 7-8 months ago. I also know many others scammed by him last year. Toepress check your PM.:mad:
 
Have you noticed that a MOD hasnt responded to this post.. I find it very funny that the MoD's are not trying to shed a little lite on these types of problems. If you are going to become a MOD on a board then you should look out for all the members. This was the first board that I ever joined and back in the day it would great, but now, its gone to shit. Some MODS have been linked with scammers, damn pop ups all over the place, etc..
 
why must we knock mods everytime a situation like this occurs...remember,it's not all mods...although i fuckin hate scammers let's not jump to the conclusion that they are all implicated...you never know when someone will turn bad...
 
Checking with a mod is always a good idea, BUT it is NOT a guarantee that you won't be scammed. These guys can turn at any time, and it's happened to me a few times as well.

Why would anyone order from bullsperm anyways? His prices are waaaay too high.

Sorry for you loss bro, but it's just part of the game, and I SERIOUSLY doubt WCP was in on it.
 
From what I know of WCP he takes the Iron Brotherhood very seriously and I doubt he would do anything to see anyone lose their money.

Peace
 
Hacker said:
Checking with a mod is always a good idea, BUT it is NOT a guarantee that you won't be scammed. These guys can turn at any time, and it's happened to me a few times as well.

Why would anyone order from bullsperm anyways? His prices are waaaay too high.

Sorry for you loss bro, but it's just part of the game, and I SERIOUSLY doubt WCP was in on it.
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word...
 
Well, I have never used nor even email nor spoken to bullsperm, but I do know that people have told me that he was legit before. I've actually been speaking to the other mods to see what's up but no one seems to know. I'm just wondering who exactly has gotten scammed by this guy and what mod told you that he was legit? You can email me this info if you don't want to post it. But I'm sure that no mod "knowingly" recommended a scammer. That's where I have a problem with this post. There could be a guy who is a perfectly legit source and you send a source check to a mod and they say ya he's legit, then all the sudden the guy turns scammer and you blame the mods. That's bullshit. The mod can't control what the guy does, he can only pass on info that he knows. I mean dam. If the guy was legit and the mod said he was legit and after that he turned scammer........ think about it. What would the mod gain out of it? Besides a bad name?
 
Chris223 said:
Have you noticed that a MOD hasnt responded to this post.. I find it very funny that the MoD's are not trying to shed a little lite on these types of problems. If you are going to become a MOD on a board then you should look out for all the members. This was the first board that I ever joined and back in the day it would great, but now, its gone to shit. Some MODS have been linked with scammers, damn pop ups all over the place, etc..
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That's cuz the mods are trying to find out what the fuck is going on before he makes an erroneous statement, like some other dipshits here.
 
I got taken to! I don't know the details, but this outfit used to be a partnership. Apparently one of the partners turned scammer while the other supposedly is legit. Even if the "good" partner is legit, I would be wary of dealing with him. This guy gave me a quick response everytime I emailed him. He always had an excuse as to why my stuff hadn't arrived. After 4 months of fucking around I finally said to hell with it! On another note DON'T BLAME THE MODS WHEN YOU GET SCAMMED!!!!! These guys don't control the universe! The best source can turn scammer overnight.
 
well who was the mods that reffered all these guys to bullsperm.. maybe their names should be brought up, or at least they could respond to this thread.....if not this this whole thread is garbage,someone needs to help these guys out.... if the mod(s)(whoever it is) reffered them to bullsperm then he should have some info on the guy....addy etc..... phone #? and the world isnt that big, we have members everywhere , im sure this guy can be found......:)
 
BigGuns2 said:
I got taken to! I don't know the details, but this outfit used to be a partnership. Apparently one of the partners turned scammer while the other supposedly is legit. Even if the "good" partner is legit, I would be wary of dealing with him. This guy gave me a quick response everytime I emailed him. He always had an excuse as to why my stuff hadn't arrived. After 4 months of fucking around I finally said to hell with it! On another note DON'T BLAME THE MODS WHEN YOU GET SCAMMED!!!!! These guys don't control the universe! The best source can turn scammer overnight.
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very true... but if the mods can refer then they can also help when shit does go bad....:)
 
el cubano said:
I'm just wondering who exactly has gotten scammed by this guy and what mod told you that he was legit? You can email me this info if you don't want to post it. But I'm sure that no mod "knowingly" recommended a scammer. ?
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Like i said he was recommended to me by mustang, and i'm not saying he knowingly did or not know he was a scammer. But it looks like this guy has been scamming for a while now....seems like mods would have heard. but who knows.

EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER
 
How many More will Get Burned

Hey Bro's isn't funny that WCP does not reply to any of this.

WHy is that did he skip town with Bullsperm Or are they the same guy???

What MOD will put this idiot [email protected] on the Biggest scammers list ??? MR X

Try contacting him you Can't.

:mad:
 
haxedout said:


very true... but if the mods can refer then they can also help when shit does go bad....:)
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And how do you expect him to do that? All the mod can do is email the guy just like you guys. We aren't any political powerhouses or cops or anything like that. We are just BB's with experience, that's it. You guys act like if we email a scammer he'll just bend over and send everyone their shit. Like I said before and it seems I have to say again cuz nobody listens. If a mod hear's that a source is legit from reliable sources or if the mod has used the source before and he was legit then he passes on that info and THAT'S ALL A MOD CAN DO! We aren't the sources and we don't control the sources. We just pass on info, other than that we are as helpless as you in these situations (even though some guys like to pretend that they are gear gods.LOL)
 
Okay, let me see if I can make some sence out of this post..First off...Yes, I did back bullsperm and he was good at one point but from the looks of it he still has not cleaned up his act or whatever. I don't know as I have not spoken to him in about 3 weeks to a month. He has been around a lot time but under diffrent e-mails as you all know. I know he was having supplier problems at one point which were said to be fixed after a long period of time and then his partner was said to be dicking him around on orders he said were to be sent out. He finally got his stuff together as he told me, he got a new supplier, new shipping addy and everything but from the looks of it, nothing has gotten better at all and I am sorry for the people who have lost there money but I would never knowingly send anyone to a scammer. He has always been good to me and almost all of my refs but that does not mean he should be able to get away with scamming even a few people so it is safe to say that no one should order from B***S**** until we at least have some answers..I will try to contact him to see whats up as I have been away for some time as you all may know so I am not exactly sure as to what is all goin on. If you have any questions then please contact me or some other mods and we'll be happy to answer them for you

M18
 
Swoleyoley said:
ya cmon if your gonna refere somebody get all the info on them, you agree to be a mod, do it right.
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What exactly do you mean by "all the info"?

Just so that you know, a mod's job is not to give sources, give info on sources, do source checks, etc. If a mod does agree to do that then he is going beyond the "JOB" of a mod. A mods job is to try to keep the boards clean and help out with questions. That's it.

Now, like I said a million times already, if a legit source goes bad there is nothing a mod can do about it, that is unless he lives very close to the guy and goes over to his house and kicks his ass!LOL
 
el cubano said:


And how do you expect him to do that? All the mod can do is email the guy just like you guys. We aren't any political powerhouses or cops or anything like that. We are just BB's with experience, that's it. You guys act like if we email a scammer he'll just bend over and send everyone their shit. Like I said before and it seems I have to say again cuz nobody listens. If a mod hear's that a source is legit from reliable sources or if the mod has used the source before and he was legit then he passes on that info and THAT'S ALL A MOD CAN DO! We aren't the sources and we don't control the sources. We just pass on info, other than that we are as helpless as you in these situations (even though some guys like to pretend that they are gear gods.LOL)
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Good Post my brutha! Karma for you

M18
 
AS MODS PUT BULLSPERM ON Scammers list

Well as Mods You can put him on the scammers list can/t you ..

You Must be Able to contact MR X because I can/t...

So put HIm on the scammers list, by the way Were is WCP during all of this?????

Maybe his is with bullsperm...

I her the next e-mail ADDY will Be [email protected] (LOL) :mad: :mad:
 
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toepress said:
Well as Mods You can put him on the scammers list can/t you ..

You Must be Able to contact MR X because I can/t...

So put HIm on the scammers list, by the way Were is WCP during all of this?????

Maybe his is with bullsperm...

I her the next e-mail ADDY will Be [email protected] (LOL) :mad: :mad:
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I must be a bad mod cuz I don't even know who Mr X is. But then again, over the last year or so there have been more mods than members!LOL
 
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el cubano said:


I must be a bad mod cuz I don't even know who Mr X is. But then again, over the last year or so there have been more mods than members!LOL
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So maybe you can put him on the big scammers list in the sky...
 
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toepress said:
Well as Mods You can put him on the scammers list can/t you ..

You Must be Able to contact MR X because I can/t...

So put HIm on the scammers list, by the way Were is WCP during all of this?????

Maybe his is with bullsperm...

I her the next e-mail ADDY will Be [email protected] (LOL) :mad: :mad:
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Scammers list? EF does not have a scammers list, but other sites do. Did you check any of the other sites and run this source by anyone but WCP? If not I suggest you get off your high horse and quite blaming others for you lack of followthrough. Regardless of who said what anyways, no one hel;d a gun to your head and made you send funds to anyone, be a man and take a little responsibility for your actions. How do you know the guy wasnt legit at one time and just started scamming unbeknownst to WCP?? The fact is you dont.

This is exactly why I dont give out any source info, I dont want to have to deal with children who come back and blame me for some source going bad.
 
Not blaming You

Zyglamail said:


Scammers list? EF does not have a scammers list, but other sites do. Did you check any of the other sites and run this source by anyone but WCP? If not I suggest you get off your high horse and quite blaming others for you lack of followthrough. Regardless of who said what anyways, no one hel;d a gun to your head and made you send funds to anyone, be a man and take a little responsibility for your actions. How do you know the guy wasnt legit at one time and just started scamming unbeknownst to WCP?? The fact is you dont.

This is exactly why I dont give out any source info, I dont want to have to deal with children who come back and blame me for some source going bad.
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I checked this guy out with a few Mods And acouple of other sources, He was not on the scammers list that MR X puts out and he was not on MESO RX scammers list either...
 
I checked this guy out with a few Mods And acouple of other sources, He was not on the scammers list that MR X puts out and he was not on MESO RX scammers list either...
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I wish I had a dollar for every source that contacted me and asked if they could do a deal with me because they want exposure. Of course it happens a hell of a lot more than I need gear so most I simply ignore. Now, I dont know the situation with the source in question or WCP's connection, but the fact remains, every source out there wants some mod recognition. Now, we dont know these people so why the fuck are we being held responsible if one should screw someone?

We can say weather or not we have dealt with them and weather or not we have heard anything bad, aside from that we have no connection CAN NOT AND WILL NOT be held responsible for what they do with your order.

Blaming one of us because a source we may have used in the past and/or we have not heard anything bad about takes your money is like blaming one of us for the eruption of fucking mount st helens.
 
el cubano said:


What exactly do you mean by "all the info"?

Just so that you know, a mod's job is not to give sources, give info on sources, do source checks, etc. If a mod does agree to do that then he is going beyond the "JOB" of a mod. A mods job is to try to keep the boards clean and help out with questions. That's it.

Now, like I said a million times already, if a legit source goes bad there is nothing a mod can do about it, that is unless he lives very close to the guy and goes over to his house and kicks his ass!LOL
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my piont is if you ARE gonna recomend somebody, have all the info on him so if things go bad know where to put the blame on somebody elses ass. If you don't wanna do that DONT RECOMEND...seems simple to me! Nobody ask you to recomend sources, source check, ect. but if you want to be the one to hook people up and make them happy, keep them happy.
 
Now, this is gonna be out of character for me but I beleive it just needs to be said.

I heard of shady happenings but MOds BEing IN on it You guys should all become small little geeks for this..
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Toepress, you rattle on about this that and the other fialing to take any responsibility for your own actions and decision to send money out.

Now, I take personal offense to the nonsense you are rambling on about. The mods on this board and many others give up hours every day to come here and try to keep things clean so you dont have to wade through bullshit like this. Additionally we answer countless questions in posts, dozens of e-mails and PM's dialy. People asking for advice, for source checks and even for source info. Then, in return we have people like you going off and blaming us for what some other person decides to do.

Now, I am not asking to be put on a pedistal, Im not looking for recognition, im not looking for payment or any special favors, but for christs sake get off your high horse and place the blame right where it belongs and thats on yourself. Keep your fucking money in your pocket and you wont get it stolen.
 
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Zyglamail said:


Scammers list? EF does not have a scammers list, but other sites do. Did you check any of the other sites and run this source by anyone but WCP? If not I suggest you get off your high horse and quite blaming others for you lack of followthrough. Regardless of who said what anyways, no one hel;d a gun to your head and made you send funds to anyone, be a man and take a little responsibility for your actions. How do you know the guy wasnt legit at one time and just started scamming unbeknownst to WCP?? The fact is you dont.

This is exactly why I dont give out any source info, I dont want to have to deal with children who come back and blame me for some source going bad.
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children?:rolleyes:
 
Zyg got it correct...mods pass on info. Sources can turn bad on the drop of a hat....this aint walmart bro. If your in this game long enough you will get scammed. Nobody forces anybody to send funds in the mail, we do it with the best info we have and hope it turns out.....I think we all know its buyer beware in this game!

But I know the feeling.....you get pissed but get pissed at the fucking source!
 
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children?:rolleyes:
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I'm not involved in this shit. But I agree with ZYGLAMAIL, i great guy can turn scammer at any time. Even if hes delivering today and he gets a good reference, tomorrow could be a differnent story, and you money could already be on its way to him. there no way they can real the future, or know exactly when someone turns scammer. BUT, if a mod has heard that some one is a possible scammer or has been having problems, and they are still giving out his name to people and saying hes good to go, then thats staight f*cked up. And i can see why hes getting mad the guy that refered him isn't saying anything or answering emails. But man shit happens, people don't spend every waking minute here, look at the list of mods at the top, some hardly ever or rarely post. If you were her not to long back som mods were removed, they no longer too the time at this board i guess, or had better thingd in their lives which requied attention. I'm sure there allot more to him not answering than hes in with a scammer. Now if you see him posting on aother board or this one , then thats another story. But i think everyone can understand why your pissed, you lost money. There nothing anyone can do now, unless you find him. AND I HOPE YOU DO!
Train hard and be safe.

EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER
 
This is why I never respond to any mails wanting a source. You guys have trashed WCP for not responding...does that mean he's guilty ? Hell I might check this board once a night and it's late night. Give him some time to respond and or even read this post. It's not like we don't have a real life with a real job and a real family.

This crap was emailed to me Thursday, wanting my opinion. I haven't responded because I don't know what is going on.

We can not control when good sources will turn bad. My long time domestic turned scammer recently as well, it's easy money for them. Sources have sources too...wonder how many times they get screwed.

I'll tell all of you newbies this. DO NOT ever email me wanting source info. Why the hell should I do the work for you ? Most of you are too lazy to research this shit yourselves and I'll be damned if I will give out a name and have this bullshit happen to me.

How many of you assholes got your gear from someone that WCP gave you ? Haven't seen any thank you posts...ever !

BPP:mad:
 
I can't believe that this guy is still being sent business by mods. I am tired of sitting back and watching unsuspecting bros get taken. I placed a $1300 order with this guy and received a partial order after 4 months of waiting. He still owes me $400 worth of gear. I got all of the excuses previously listed and was strung along for months. This source assured me that regardless of what went down with his supplier, his partner and so on he would absolutely make things right. Bullshit! He took the cowardly way out and had WCP post a huge excuse letter basically saying that since he was fucked by his partner everyone else was getting fucked as well. Guess what that is not how a business works. If you are in a partnership in business and your partner defaults on his obligations then guess who is responsible......you are god damnit! I don't give a shit if it is a legal or an illegal undertaking, business is business. This man did not fufill his obligations to his previous customers and should have never been defended by WCP or sent customers by any other mod. I have all the emails our man Y ever sent me to confirm every thing I have stated in this post. I am not pointing fingers at the mods for my loss. I know the risk involved in the game we play and I take responsibility for my decisions. In my opinion this second round of scamming could and should have been avoided if the mods did not reff out some one who did not take care of his obligations and they were his obligations regardless of who fucked who over.
 
Swoleyoley said:


my piont is if you ARE gonna recomend somebody, have all the info on him so if things go bad know where to put the blame on somebody elses ass. If you don't wanna do that DONT RECOMEND...seems simple to me! Nobody ask you to recomend sources, source check, ect. but if you want to be the one to hook people up and make them happy, keep them happy.
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You still didn't tell us what info you are talking about? Be specific so that I can tell you why we don't do that.
 
GARAGE GORILLA said:
I can't believe that this guy is still being sent business by mods. I am tired of sitting back and watching unsuspecting bros get taken. I placed a $1300 order with this guy and received a partial order after 4 months of waiting. He still owes me $400 worth of gear. I got all of the excuses previously listed and was strung along for months. This source assured me that regardless of what went down with his supplier, his partner and so on he would absolutely make things right. Bullshit! He took the cowardly way out and had WCP post a huge excuse letter basically saying that since he was fucked by his partner everyone else was getting fucked as well. Guess what that is not how a business works. If you are in a partnership in business and your partner defaults on his obligations then guess who is responsible......you are god damnit! I don't give a shit if it is a legal or an illegal undertaking, business is business. This man did not fufill his obligations to his previous customers and should have never been defended by WCP or sent customers by any other mod. I have all the emails our man Y ever sent me to confirm every thing I have stated in this post. I am not pointing fingers at the mods for my loss. I know the risk involved in the game we play and I take responsibility for my decisions. In my opinion this second round of scamming could and should have been avoided if the mods did not reff out some one who did not take care of his obligations and they were his obligations regardless of who fucked who over.
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Before you make a post like this please read all the responses. Cuz it's like all the posts the mods made in this post are for nothing cuz you obviously didn't read them.
 
BigPapaPump said:
This is why I never respond to any mails wanting a source. You guys have trashed WCP for not responding...does that mean he's guilty ? Hell I might check this board once a night and it's late night. Give him some time to respond and or even read this post. It's not like we don't have a real life with a real job and a real family.

This crap was emailed to me Thursday, wanting my opinion. I haven't responded because I don't know what is going on.

We can not control when good sources will turn bad. My long time domestic turned scammer recently as well, it's easy money for them. Sources have sources too...wonder how many times they get screwed.

I'll tell all of you newbies this. DO NOT ever email me wanting source info. Why the hell should I do the work for you ? Most of you are too lazy to research this shit yourselves and I'll be damned if I will give out a name and have this bullshit happen to me.

How many of you assholes got your gear from someone that WCP gave you ? Haven't seen any thank you posts...ever !

BPP:mad:
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I love you man! LOL.

I also love the way that you brought out the point of sources having sources and getting scammed. These people don't realize that domestic sources get scammed all the time by "legit" overseas sources and when they get scammed it's usually for about $10G's and not $400. They also lose tons of money to customs too. But this is all a "ME ME WORLD" where they say fuck him, what about me!

Anyway, scammers do suck and I'm not giving any type of excuse for them, but unless the "MOD" was the source you can't blame him if you got scammed. If you think that the mods are scammers then stop emailing us for source checks and find your own dam source. GOOD LUCK! L M F A O !
 
Cubano, no disrespect intended but i read all the posts and they don't have a damn thing to do with my statement. I think i may have a bit more info on this than you do. Regardless of anything that was posted previuosly the mods involved (you were not one of them) knew that this source had obligations outstanding...I made sure that they knew. Having this info, some mods still chose to send him business. I really have no idea what your talking about as far as any posts that directly address this issue.
 
el cubano said:


I love you man! LOL.

I also love the way that you brought out the point of sources having sources and getting scammed. These people don't realize that domestic sources get scammed all the time by "legit" overseas sources and when they get scammed it's usually for about $10G's and not $400. They also lose tons of money to customs too. But this is all a "ME ME WORLD" where they say fuck him, what about me!

Anyway, scammers do suck and I'm not giving any type of excuse for them, but unless the "MOD" was the source you can't blame him if you got scammed. If you think that the mods are scammers then stop emailing us for source checks and find your own dam source. GOOD LUCK! L M F A O !
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i never called any mod a scammer. As I said in my first post I take direct responsibility for my decisions. I also don't care about the $400 loss.....I wipe my ass with $400. What I do care about is the fact that this guy fucked people over and it was well known and he was defended for his actions and sent more business to boot.
 
GG, since I don't know you I have to believe what the other mods told me and that is that they stopped sending him customers when they found out he was having problems and that was posted already.
 
GARAGE GORILLA said:


i never called any mod a scammer. As I said in my first post I take direct responsibility for my decisions. I also don't care about the $400 loss.....I wipe my ass with $400. What I do care about is the fact that this guy fucked people over and it was well known and he was defended for his actions and sent more business to boot.
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HEHEHE. Actually I wasn't even talking about you. I just pulled that $400 out of the air. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
el cubano said:
GG, since I don't know you I have to believe what the other mods told me and that is that they stopped sending him customers when they found out he was having problems and that was posted already.
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Understood, but as I said I am not talking out of my ass. I have emails to back what i am saying. You can see the dates and with that we can find out from this new group of bros that got scammed when they were reffered out to this source.
 
GARAGE GORILLA said:


Understood, but as I said I am not talking out of my ass. I have emails to back what i am saying. You can see the dates and with that we can find out from this new group of bros that got scammed when they were reffered out to this source.
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No harm done.:D
 
GARAGE GORILLA said:


Understood, but as I said I am not talking out of my ass. I have emails to back what i am saying. You can see the dates and with that we can find out from this new group of bros that got scammed when they were reffered out to this source.
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Just curious, since you have more info, do you know where WCP is? I'm trying to find out more info on this. I know WCP and it seems weird that he would purposely let people get scammed. BS must have been telling him that he was getting his shit together and WCP believed him.
 
el cubano said:


Just curious, since you have more info, do you know where WCP is? I'm trying to find out more info on this. I know WCP and it seems weird that he would purposely let people get scammed. BS must have been telling him that he was getting his shit together and WCP believed him.
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No, I don't know where he is. You are more than likely right about B.S. telling him he was getting his shit together. My only problem with this is when WCP posted B.S.'s excuse plenty of people jumped on the thread to let it be known that they were still out cash. Obviously bros were again sent to B.S. even after this info was made public. I was perfectly content to let this fade away but now to find out he was sent more business and is again scamming just bends me out of wack. My first post may have been harsh but i stand by it. How can you reff some one as a good guy when he still owes cash?
 
I use to recieve gear from him when he was at [email protected] He was a good source for awhile but then I heard his partner was scamming people so he went on his own at [email protected] Well I gave him a try and after 2 months of excuses I am in the same boat as all of you. He was in good with alot of MODS but how are they supposed to know who is gonna turn into a scammer suddenly? Many of them gave him another chance when he told them he had all his shit straightened out so they are disappointed as well. They spend alot of there time helping us and alot of us would have no access to gear if they were not around. I respect the mods and what they know and do.It is part of the game to lose money if you get your shit online. If you don't like it head to Mexico and get your own shit!MODS have the inside info but some of you expect them to snap there fingers and have Bullsperm send apology notes to all of use saying our gear is in the mail with our money back. Damn, that would be nice but it just does not happen. So suck it up and find a better source!
 
el cubano said:


You still didn't tell us what info you are talking about? Be specific so that I can tell you why we don't do that.
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address, verified phone #'s. if you want a mod to recomend you...you should have no trouble doing this
 
Bro's that son of a bitch ripped me off $750. I got his addy from 2Thick and neither he or 2Thick are responding to my emails. That fucker needs his balls handed to him on a platter!

CS
 
Ya Ok

MUSTANG_18 said:
Okay, let me see if I can make some sence out of this post..First off...Yes, I did back bullsperm and he was good at one point but from the looks of it he still has not cleaned up his act or whatever. I don't know as I have not spoken to him in about 3 weeks to a month. He has been around a lot time but under diffrent e-mails as you all know. I know he was having supplier problems at one point which were said to be fixed after a long period of time and then his partner was said to be dicking him around on orders he said were to be sent out. He finally got his stuff together as he told me, he got a new supplier, new shipping addy and everything but from the looks of it, nothing has gotten better at all and I am sorry for the people who have lost there money but I would never knowingly send anyone to a scammer. He has always been good to me and almost all of my refs but that does not mean he should be able to get away with scamming even a few people so it is safe to say that no one should order from B***S**** until we at least have some answers..I will try to contact him to see whats up as I have been away for some time as you all may know so I am not exactly sure as to what is all goin on. If you have any questions then please contact me or some other mods and we'll be happy to answer them for you
Why don/t you read all the posts see how many people he scammmed don/t try and justify this idiots actions you fool

M18
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OK OK OK

OK,

lets all put this in prespective for a min, what if something really did happen to the bro...why would he string everybody along this far, and all of a sudden quit emailing all of us on the same day...maybe maybe it will be all good
 
Well I am another sorry Motha F****r that got ripped off by this sorry ass son of a b***h. You would not believe how fricking pissed I am. I've ordered with him in the past and everything was alright then I placed another order with him in January. I recieved 1 out of 2 things from him and he even sent me a free bottle of test for making me wait for my 2nd item. Great everything was going good just taking a little longer than expected. Its over 3 months now and I emailed him 2 weeks ago and he said he had my shit and his boss got sick so he had to wait till Sat to send it. Ok now that pissed me off right there. I sent him an email expressing my feelings on the subject a week and a half ago and I can't get him to respond. I'm out $400 and to some that may not be alot and if it was my shit I may not be as pissed but it was for someone else and now I have to try to come up with the money to give back to him cause it was my guy who screwed him. I still have his name and his return addy but I don't know if its a legit name and addy or not. If anyone would like to hit me back and confirm my info or can give me any info I would appreciate it. I want this bitchs balls and I'm willing to go get them. I tried looking up a phone # for this guy and nothing was listed in PA. I tried a goverment agency and they came up with a guy with the same name in MI but thats it. Any help hit me back...... I want nuts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Da_bigone
 
Oh and I had 3 MoDs refer me. Two of them were Mustang_18 and 2Thick but I can't remember the other one I asked..... One said that he's legit but he's just taking a little longer. Yeah bullshit...
 
Lets stop blaming ALL mods!! You guys need to remember that mods aren't paid to do the great service they do. Yes they might have a little kickback but they could very well keep thier mouths shut. Then were would we be at? We would be forced to buy from the local gym guy at higher prices.
 
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el cubano said:


BS must have been telling him that he was getting his shit together and WCP believed him.
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BS told me for a while that he was getting his shit straight and send me what he owes, after a while it became obvious that he was just talking out of his ass. I brushed it off and gave him the benefit of the doubt with that whole "Is my partners fault" excuse, but what really gets me is that after all that shit he is still taking money. Also, I agree with G.G. In the defense of the mods, they are very helpful and it is very unfair to blindly acuse them. If you trust a mod enough ,when everything is good, to send money to a stranger, you should maintain that trust when something goes bad instead of ignoring all that previous trust, putting the blame on them and attacking them.
 
I wasn't blaming any MoDs for referring me but mearing stating was it was that sent me there. I can't blame them for anything I can only blame myself but if that MoD is BS than thats a problem. I have sent a thanx to MoDs before when they have helped me out with a source and it came through, I do appreciate that. I give 2 thumbs up for em being here to help but I want BS's balls in a jar so if anyone is close to Wendel PA why don't you help me out.
 
I don't think is fair to start posting all the mods that refered you to BS. BS had a good reputation, thus many mods may have felt confident in backing him, he went bad and you can't blame all the mods that backed him. By posting who refers him, you are making it look like they did it intentionally out of bad blood, thats not the case.
 
macho21 said:


In the defense of the mods, they are very helpful and it is very unfair to blindly acuse them. If you trust a mod enough ,when everything is good, to send money to a stranger, you should maintain that trust when something goes bad instead of ignoring all that previous trust, putting the blame on them and attacking them.
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Exactly...We all try to do the best we can because we love this board and love helping people and if we didn't we would not be here. The problem is, when sources do go bad (And it does happen a lot) there is no way of telling and even sources who have been around for a LONG time as in BS's case they still can go bad and there is really no way of bein able to tell when it's gonna happen. This does not look good cause we do back some of these guys and if they fuck around it reflects on us and we don't want that. The bottom line is, we have no control over what they do and all we can do is try our best to help out and tell you what we know. I am sorry for all who have lost there hard earned $$ but when people make accusations and start blaming the mods it does not make our job any easier and does not exactly make us want to rush to e-mail to help you guys. Thanks to the people who understand

M18
 
Sending You an e-mail???

da_bigone said:
I wasn't blaming any MoDs for referring me but mearing stating was it was that sent me there. I can't blame them for anything I can only blame myself but if that MoD is BS than thats a problem. I have sent a thanx to MoDs before when they have helped me out with a source and it came through, I do appreciate that. I give 2 thumbs up for em being here to help but I want BS's balls in a jar so if anyone is close to Wendel PA why don't you help me out.
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This guy sucks bulls balls he scammed hundreds of people and many of the good mods told me after the fact that this guy was a scammer /// you are right SOme of the Mods know about this idiot and still gave him bussiness
 
BTW: I ordered 1300 worth from them last October...I have yet to see a fucking thing...Catpiss - Dogshit - Bullsperm and who else is involved I am going to rape you...You can also contact Catpiss's personal e-mail at [email protected] & [email protected]...And thanks to the MODS for all your GREAT help...

No wonder all the vets have left or no longer post frequently anymore...:mad: :mad:
 
GARAGE GORILLA said:


No, I don't know where he is. You are more than likely right about B.S. telling him he was getting his shit together. My only problem with this is when WCP posted B.S.'s excuse plenty of people jumped on the thread to let it be known that they were still out cash. Obviously bros were again sent to B.S. even after this info was made public. I was perfectly content to let this fade away but now to find out he was sent more business and is again scamming just bends me out of wack. My first post may have been harsh but i stand by it. How can you reff some one as a good guy when he still owes cash?
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very true!!!
 
The Bull said:
BTW: I ordered 1300 worth from them last October...I have yet to see a fucking thing...Catpiss - Dogshit - Bullsperm and who else is involved I am going to rape you...You can also contact Catpiss's personal e-mail at [email protected] & [email protected]...And thanks to the MODS for all your GREAT help...

No wonder all the vets have left or no longer post frequently anymore...:mad: :mad:
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Yes, you can bet that any and all requests I get for source info will simply be pointed to this thread and I am going to highly recommend all other mods and vets do the same.
 
Here is an e-mail from BS recently...

Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2002 11:39:19 -0500 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Whats up...
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Hey bro, thanks for the well wishes. I think after the orders I owe out
now are taken care of, I'm gonna get out of this game for awhile. About
your stuff, don't let up on Rocco. Email that fucker (rocco141@hotmail
and [email protected]) nonstop. He has your gear bro, unless he sold it somewhere
locally. I hope he gives in for you.... Have a good one...

BS
At Tue, 16 Apr 2002 19:31:24 -0800 (PDT), [email protected] wrote:

>
>Hey bro...This e-mail is just to see how things are going...I know I'll
>probably never get my order, but I am keeping my hopes up...Let me know
>if you ever get your life back together after all the bullshit that
>has
>happened to you...
>
>Have a good week,
>-The Bull-
 
Swoleyoley said:


address, verified phone #'s. if you want a mod to recomend you...you should have no trouble doing this
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OK, that's exactly what I thought you meant. Now being that he is selling illegal steroids he should not give any info to anyone. It's just plain common sense. I wouldn't even ask a source for that shit. It would be stupid of the source to give it out no matter how much he trusts someone. It's like asking for you jail sentence up front. "Oh, by the way, if there are any cops monitorring the email here's my home address and phone number. And if you want you can email the mods to verify it". Laughing My Fucking Ass Off.
 
Shit, I didn't even know that catpiss, dogshit and bullsperm were the same person? LOL.

Also, all you guys saying that several mods "referred" you to, do you really mean that you did a source check and they said he was legit? There's a difference you know. Like in the past when I got a source check on BS (before all this) I would tell people that I don't know him personally, but the other mods tell me he's legit. That's passing on info, not referring.
 
It seems like alot of people are upset in this thread. Members really harshly striking out at mods. I havent seen this in a long time. However, guys, you must understand, that sometimes shit happens. Even the most honest mod in the world, the one who helps out everyone can sometimes just get shitted on. I'll give you an example. For one, Huck is one of the greatest mods this board has had. I love the guy to death and he has helped me out so much over the past few years. Always polite and he always helps out the members. He recommened a guy to me, who we all know is a scammer now, ash345. Well I ALMOST put in an order with ash, when it was found out he was a huge scammer. Now, if I had placed my order, I would have gotten shafted, by someone who Huck referred me to. Now, would it have been Huck's fault? No, absolutely not. Who's fault would it have been? Not really anyone's. Its just shitty luck. Remember fellah's, your trying to get something you aren't supposed to in the first place, its not like the people at Walmart are taking your money, and you can talk to the BBB about them. You assume the risk whenever you put that money in the mail. Usually when source goes bad, it takes a while to go through the chain of command for people to find out, especially since they can use so many excuses. Then there are always the "he's legit bro, i just got my order" replies from people who have not been selectively scammed. All I'm saying fellahs is dont be to quick to judge.
 
Let me add this, I would be the first to boot a mod off this board if he / she was a source. We've been down that road before. We have made great strides with this board over the years, we do not allow source posting for this very reason. I belong to many boards, and with few exceptions, there is not another board out there that is as clean as this one.

You have no idea how many sources there are. I hear a different name with every mail. The guy that was good last month could be shit this month. I've been on this board since it started back in the java days. I know of only 2 sources that were in biz then that are still aorund today and they are both international.

BPP:(
 
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