building second cycle

[caleb.afg]

hey i am 23 years old and was wanting to do a 12 week cycle with test and tren and also anavar for weeks 1-6 and winny weeks 8-12. i have done my research and was wondering what other people thought about the type of test and tren and dosage or if i should drop one and add another. im a personal trainer and dont want to gain to much to fast would like more of just steady gains noticeable but not to crazy. i work out 6 days a week 4-5 heavy lifting days and 1-2 cardio and or light weight higher rep workouts. my diet is in check will be about 45/35/20 im currently weighing in at 218. my goal is to add about 10-12 pounds of muscle and drop my body fat from 12% to about 8%.

 

[thelocal]

whats your cycle history?

 

[gymjunkie09]

hey i am 23 years old and was wanting to do a 12 week cycle with test and tren and also anavar for weeks 1-6 and winny weeks 8-12. i have done my research and was wondering what other people thought about the type of test and tren and dosage or if i should drop one and add another. im a personal trainer and dont want to gain to much to fast would like more of just steady gains noticeable but not to crazy. i work out 6 days a week 4-5 heavy lifting days and 1-2 cardio and or light weight higher rep workouts. my diet is in check will be about 45/35/20 im currently weighing in at 218. my goal is to add about 10-12 pounds of muscle and drop my body fat from 12% to about 8%.

overkill for ten lbs for sure....are you cutting or bulking, you say you wanna gain 10lbs muscle and lose 4%bf which would be 10-12 lbs at your weight. Why not just cut down first then run your cycle? Just seems more reasonable to me idk

 

[caleb.afg]

i would consider it a cutting cycle while maintaining and adding a little bit of muscle and for my cycle history ive ran test enth with var and did pretty good had a slight gyno problem tho and ive done hgh only a few times for about 3-6 months at a time. by only problem with cutting first then doing the cycle is that for some reason its really hard for me to cut fat without loosing alot of muscle so i thought as long as i kept it moderate i would be able to do both at the same time. should i lose the tren and winny and add hgh or igf-1 or what do you guys think

 

[caleb.afg]

bump

 

[thelocal]

hey how about this.you come up with a cycle and let us tweak it.you have everything in one big paragraph and its just chaotic to read..it is mostly frowned upaon to use tren for a secound cycle

 

[caleb.afg]

as of right now...

weeks 1-12 350-500mg test per week prop or enth (what do you guys think)
weeks 8 or 9 to weeks 12 or 13 50mg oral winny every day
weeks 1-6 var 50mg every day

not sure about pct yet so just let me know and also thoughts on dropping winny or var and adding igf lr3 or hgh???

im up for any suggestions and comments so just let me know what you guys think

 

[thelocal]

U want to cut right? I would just do something like this
1-10 500 test
1-10 300 masteron
6-10 var 40mgs daily


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[caleb.afg]

thanks for the help yes i wanting to cut
what about pct and not really sure if i would need hcg for a lighter cutting cycle and also what type of masteron and test do you recommend

 

[thelocal]

I would do mast e just to cut back on injections and really any test works..only test I ever used is cup and I had great gains..u shouldn't need a A I unless ur really sensitive to estrogen ..yes you need some hcg start it week 4 at 250ius twice a week ..now fir pct I see a lot of people do this so this is what I will recommend .I never pct because I never come off..
Get these items..unleashed,post cycle,hcg generate,pyhotosarms347 then after u cycled those get on some bridge and daa. U can use unleashed year round its a strong test booster

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