forget the training and high protein
that would be true only for newbies
Anabolics would be the only way for anyone with any time in the gym
It's just the physiology of insulin. Either it's present in elevated levels in the blood or it's not. If it is , fat loss is not possible. If it's at low levels then epinephrine , norepinephrine , cAMP, dompamine , taurine , tyrosine and other chemicals and precursors which act on alpha adregenic and beta adregenic receptors can do thier job.