Bro's, please critique my cycle

[thebadguy54]

30 y/o, 5'-9", 205lbs., 12%

GOALS:
Squat 400lbs.
Deadlift 500lbs.
Bench 365lbs.
Shoulder press 225lbs.
Power Clean 275lbs.
Run 3 miles in < 20 min.
Run 1/4 mile in <1 min.

Not really that concerned with what I look like since performance is all that matters to me.

Here it is:
1-12 T.est E @ 500mg EW
1-15 Liquidex @ 0.25mg ED
8-12 V.ar @ 50mg ED
8-12 500iu H.GC EW
13-15 (10 days after last test shot) 500iu's H.CG EOD for 10 days (2500iu) with 50mgs C.lomid ED (and 0.25mg Liquidex) for 3 weeks
15-17 Dermacrine Sustain 5-6 pumps ED

What do you guys think?

 

[holy ghost]

drop the DEX until you NEED it

 

[thebadguy54]

drop the DEX until you NEED it

What's up ghost.

That's what I did last time with my T.est and E Q cycle, but in week 7 I got a lump. Then I had to take L.etro, and it ruined me. I'd rather just take the dex. I have L.etro but I never want to use it again!

You think 0.25mg's dex EOD would be enough? Keep in mind 350mg's enth and 400 mg's E Q gave me a small lump after 7 weeks last time.

 

[sw0le25]

i would go with test propionate for strengtth.......and maybe some NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - and your anavar....NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - is fas acting Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and will protect your joints and add some size to you also......OR SUSTANON@500MG A WEEK AND DECA,THEN ANAVAR AT THE END BUT THIS WOULD HOLD LOTS OF WATER.....

IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS

SUSTANON 500MG 1-12WK
DECA 300-400MG 1-12 WK
ANAVAR 50MG 8-12

OR

TEST-P 100MG EOD 1-12WK
NPP 300MG E0D 1-12WK
ANAVAR 50MG 6-12WK


NOW IF ALL YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH IS TEST-E I WOULD WAIT AND GET A STACK ANOTHER LONG-ESTER DECA OR Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . THEN RUN YOUR ANAVAR DURING PCT - post cycle therapy - OR WEEKS 8-12!! ....ALSO CLEN WOULD BE GREAT FOR MAINTAINING YOUR SRENGTH AND SIZE GAINS DURING PCT....TRAKE IT EASY

 

[holy ghost]

what up doggy!

whats the .25 a 4th of your pill or somethin?a quarter?
go with that protocol
personally id do a 1/4th(tab) M W F Sun
that way you only use a TAB a week
and it is great for blood levels!

bump only when necessary! that should do it!
have some letro on hand since your gyno prone!

ps 300mg NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - wont do SHIT BRO.

 

[hyp1]

drop the DEX until you NEED it

+2,besides that everything looks good

 

[holy ghost]

glad more bros are coming around and using ancillaries only when needed

still always gotta have them on hand! dont want to be crying every minute watching your tit grow and lactate while checkin your mailbox every 2 seconds for your letro! lol

 

[OMEGA]

I think his Dex dose is near perfect

I think your very strong for your size and you will benefit GREATLY of higher / hypertrophy REP training

as far as PCT this is the Fav here:

1)
7 day after last shot start:
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - - @ 2000iu e4d for about 3 shots
Run with an aromatase inhibitor

2)
AFTER you stop HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - -
- -START = Clomid at 50 mgs ED
Use and aromatase inhibitor with Clomid , run both for 3-4 weeks

3)
G-covery, Glutamine or BCAAS' at 2 servings day for Anticatabolic/ immune system
Raw MCC at 1 serving a day for Phosphate and Magnesium Loading
Amplify02 Prewokout, but keep workouts brief till you recover

 

[holy ghost]

benefit speed wise yes but one must take into consideration that
which types of fibers you recruit during weight training (or other activities)
depends on how much force your muscles need to generate. With low force requirements, you
recruit Type I fibers, with more and more Type II fibers being recruited as your force
requirements go up. A near maximum load, even though it may move slowly, will fire all available
muscle fibers. A light weight moved quickly, which may require a high force output, can fire fast
twitch fibers as well. As well, if you start with a light weight moved slowly, as some fibers fatigue,
you will progressively recruit more fibers throughout the set.
The same holds true for endurance activity, by the way. At low intensities, you use almost
exclusively Type I fibers. As intensity (speed) increases, you start recruiting Type IIa fibers, as
your approach maximum power outputs, Type IIx fibers will be recruited.

slow and fast fibers, or red and white fiber (red is slow,
white is fast) or even Type I and Type II. Old nomenclature for human muscle included Type I,
Type IIa and Type IIb but it turns out that Type IIb are only found in mice and rats. Humans,
rather, have Type I, Type IIa and Type IIx. Some researchers delineate even more fiber types
than that. Ultimately, all of these different nomenclatures refer to the physiological
characteristics of the muscle fibers and that's what's most important here.
Type I (or slow twitch or red) fibers fire somewhat more slowly than fast fibers, don't
fatigue very quickly, and don't grow very much. They are used mostly for endurance type
activities. Type II (or fast twitch or white fiber) contract a little bit more quickly than slow
fibers, fatigue quickly, and have a large capacity for growth. They only come into play when high
force outputs are necessary, such as during lifting weights, sprinting, or what have you. There
are further subdivisions within Type II fibers, which describe variance in force production,
fatigueability, growth potential, etc., but that's more detail than we really need.

-mcdonald

 

[OMEGA]

I have my Philosophies

he has already done all the power work he needs and then some

IF he makes the switch now he WILL EXPLODE with growth

You dont EVER have to lift heavy to LOOK Huge

 

[thebadguy54]

i would go with test propionate for strengtth.......and maybe some NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - and your anavar....NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - is fas acting Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - -Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and will protect your joints and add some size to you also......OR SUSTANON@500MG A WEEK AND DECA,THEN ANAVAR AT THE END BUT THIS WOULD HOLD LOTS OF WATER.....

IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS

SUSTANON 500MG 1-12WK
DECA 300-400MG 1-12 WK
ANAVAR 50MG 8-12

OR

TEST-P 100MG EOD 1-12WK
NPP 300MG E0D 1-12WK
ANAVAR 50MG 6-12WK


NOW IF ALL YOU HAVE TO WORK WITH IS TEST-E I WOULD WAIT AND GET A STACK ANOTHER LONG-ESTER DECA OR Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . THEN RUN YOUR ANAVAR DURING PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - OR WEEKS 8-12!! ....ALSO Clenbuterol WOULD BE GREAT FOR MAINTAINING YOUR SRENGTH AND SIZE GAINS DURING PCT....TRAKE IT EASY

I have a bunch of T E and E Q already but I could always save that for the summer.

I rather not use T.est P (since I don't want to inject EOD) and I am affraid of Dec.a ever since my nip flared up.

What do you guys think about 500mg Sustanon EW and maybe some winstrol instead of testosterone enanthate and Anavar - oxandrolone - ?

 

[holy ghost]

Both types of training together produce a more effective protein synthesis and growth pattern

sorry bro but i will take myofibrillar vs sarcoplasmic hypertrophy any day

who wants to just LOOK big? drop the carbs and see what he looks like then!
shit he can do that just by increasing his glycogen water and minerals and with high rep training

omega certain types of training recruit certain fiber types bro


if he wants to open some capillaries to look big i would get him on some EPO or AMP02.

 

[thebadguy54]

what up doggy!

whats the .25 a 4th of your pill or somethin?a quarter?
go with that protocol
personally id do a 1/4th(tab) M W F Sun
that way you only use a TAB a week
and it is great for blood levels!

bump only when necessary! that should do it!
have some Femera - letrozole - on hand since your gynecomastia prone!

ps 300mg NPP - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - - Nandrolone PhenylPropionate - wont do SHIT BRO.

Yeah 0.25mg's would be a quater tab... since I have the liquid version, it's a 1/4 dropper. I also have letro, but I'd be perfectly happy letting it sit in my cupboard until it expires. That shit killed my sex drive... tastes great though!

 

[thebadguy54]

I think his Dex dose is near perfect

I think your very strong for your size and you will benefit GREATLY of higher / hypertrophy REP training

as far as PCT - post cycle therapy - this is the Fav here:

1)
7 day after last shot start:
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - - @ 2000iu e4d for about 3 shots
Run with an aromatase inhibitor

2)
AFTER you stop HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - -
- -START = Clomid at 50 mgs ED
Use and aromatase inhibitor with Clomid , run both for 3-4 weeks

3)
G-covery, Glutamine or BCAAS' at 2 servings day for Anticatabolic/ immune system
Raw MCC at 1 serving a day for Phosphate and Magnesium Loading
Amplify02 Prewokout, but keep workouts brief till you recover

Thanks for your input bro.

What do you think is better, Dex @ 0.25 ED or EOD?
Do you think I should run any H.CG during?

Btw, I do train with high reps a couple times a week. I'll do circuts, 50-100 rep sets of squats, high rep deadlifts, push presses or whatever. I also do 100's of pull-ups, high rep dips, gymnastics moves, o-lifts, bike, run, swim etc. I do a bit of everything. But, my goal this winter is to increase power while maintaining my current cardio conditioning. Then I'll switch it up in the spring.

 

[thebadguy54]

+2,besides that everything looks good

Hyp1, what do you think about running 500mg Sustanon EW and Winstrol instead of E.nth and A.navar?

 

[holy ghost]

bro are you doing this for sports /look / or what man i dont get it

a friend is a college sprinter and I got him on 10mg winny ED
Any more will be pushin tears

all of them are great drugs.

 

[thebadguy54]

bro are you doing this for sports /look / or what man i dont get it

a friend is a college sprinter and I got him on 10mg Winstrol - stanozolol ED
Any more will be pushin tears

all of them are great drugs.

I'm mostly interested in athletic performance. Strength, speed, power, agility, etc. Looks don't matter to me since I'm already satisfied/happy with my size and body composition. I just want to be an explosive motherfuker.

 

[needtogetaas]

30 y/o, 5'-9", 205lbs., 12%

GOALS:
Squat 400lbs.
Deadlift 500lbs.
Bench 365lbs.
Shoulder press 225lbs.
Power Clean 275lbs.
Run 3 miles in < 20 min.
Run 1/4 mile in <1 min.

Not really that concerned with what I look like since performance is all that matters to me.

Here it is:
1-12 T.est E @ 500mg EW
1-15 Liquidex @ 0.25mg ED
8-12 V.ar @ 50mg ED
8-12 500iu H.GC EW
13-15 (10 days after last test shot) 500iu's H.CG EOD for 10 days (2500iu) with 50mgs C.lomid ED (and 0.25mg Liquidex) for 3 weeks
15-17 Dermacrine Sustain 5-6 pumps ED

What do you guys think?

dont even think about the winny bro or the deca just do the cycle you got here its perfect like most have said...var is the best for reaching goals like this bro it adds strength and speed with little size witch is going to help both in your lifting goals and running goals.. the test-e is a great base dont really need any thing else like ghost and others have said drop the nolva during cycle unless needed I would run hcg 500iu's ew during the cycle not after then run the nolva and not clomid with the dermacrin sustain for pct bro...

some of the other supps omega said for pct can also help as well.

if your running the hcg during the cycle there is really no need for that big blast of hcg at the end....

 

[needtogetaas]

Both types of training together produce a more effective protein synthesis and growth pattern

sorry bro but i will take myofibrillar vs sarcoplasmic hypertrophy any day

who wants to just LOOK big? drop the carbs and see what he looks like then!
shit he can do that just by increasing his glycogen water and minerals and with high rep training

omega certain types of training recruit certain fiber types bro


if he wants to open some capillaries to look big i would get him on some EPO or AMP02.

thats pretty much my only goal...lol look big and lift big thats all I care about...most people dont though.

 

[sw0le25]

I have a bunch of T E and E Q already but I could always save that for the summer.

I rather not use T.est P (since I don't want to inject EOD) and I am affraid of Dec.a ever since my nip flared up.

What do you guys think about 500mg Sustanon EW and maybe some winstrol instead of testosterone enanthate and Anavar - oxandrolone - ?

BRO, BASICALLY YOUR DIET WILL CONTROL HOW YOU LOOK PERIOD...I'VE SEEN GUYS ON Dianabol - methandrostenolone - WHO WERE STILL VERY LEAN AND CUT.......I THINK Sustanon 250@500MG FOR 12 WEEKS STRAIGHT WILL DO YOU GOOD BUT STACK IT WITH YOUR Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - FOR BETTER REULTS AND JOINT LUBRICANTION. WEEKS 8-12 I WOULD DECREASE MY SUS TO 325 OR 350MG AND RUN THE Winstrol - stanozolol EVERYDAY@50MG. OR RUN EVERYTHING FULL BLAST AND U WILL LOOK GOOD AND FELL GOOD, PLUS YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY ATTAIN YOUR GOALS....DO UR EQ @400MG A WEEK....HERES THE LAY OUT BRO.....

CYCLE 1

SUST 500MG 1-12WK
EQ 400MG 1-12WK
WINNY 50MG ED 6-12 WK
THEN UR PCT - post cycle therapy - IS COVERED OBVIOUSLY BUT RUN Clenbuterol TO KEEP YOUR SIZE AND STRENGTH.....

CYCLE2
SUST 500MG 1-8WK
EQ 400MG 1-12
SUST 350MG 8-12
WINNY 25MG ED 1-8WK THEN RUN@50MG 8-12

AND FOR THE GUYS THAT THINK YOU CANT RUN A BULKING AND CUTTING STEROID AT THE SAME TIME...YOU HAVE ALOT TO LEARN...I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED AMAZING RESULTS....TAKE IT EASY BRO....

 

[holy ghost]

I have cut on Dbol 15mg ed.
great for retaining muscle

N2 yeah he is talking about being pumped up temporarily
im talking about having real muscle fiber behind the sarcoplasm

 

[OMEGA]

Both types of training together produce a more effective protein synthesis and growth pattern

sorry bro but i will take myofibrillar vs sarcoplasmic hypertrophy any day

who wants to just LOOK big? drop the carbs and see what he looks like then!
shit he can do that just by increasing his glycogen water and minerals and with high rep training

omega certain types of training recruit certain fiber types bro


if he wants to open some capillaries to look big i would get him on some EPO or AMP02.

give me someone who was a power lifter and then someone who was NOT that strong and I could get the not so strong one BIGGER much faster

A Routine Favoreing Reps through multiple planes of movement will yield a bigger phsyque and one more balanced

he earned his strngth stripes already based on the number he posted he could lift 10 reps and up and GET HUUUUUGE

 

[holy ghost]

im about the balance

I do DC/rest pause for first half of some of my cycles ( heavy core training )
then last half I will do speed/symmetry and workouts for tone

sometimes !

I usually Do Power Every other week same with HIIT

bro if you constantly train same you will hit homeostasis or a plateau or a stalmate

What do you mean Bigger faster the PL is obv bigger from the get go right?

bottomline as long as theirs no stagnation or left out areas you are on a path for a great physique

 

[letsrun4it]

If you are looking to MAX OUT. To peak at a competition or just at a certain time and be at your peak strength there is no getting around that Test Suspension is the best strength steroid. You will lose a bunch of your gains even with solid PCT but its noticeably better IMO.

I'd drop the var as well in favor of anadrol, considering the effect on lipid profile I consider the sides that matter pretty even and performance in a different world.

 

[gjohnson5]

1. I agree with your usage of liquidex. It makes no sense at all to drop liquidex if you know you're gyno prone. liquidex = arimidex not novaldex...

2. How do you respond to EQ. I think you should have EQ in that cycle since you have a goal of 3miles < 20 minutes. The quarter in under a minute is a sprint and you need to have alot of wind to accomplish that. Also you need to strip as much unnecessary bodyfat and water as possible. If anything you should up the dosage of arimidex , not drop it. In other words you're going to have to cut to make that one. What is your quarter time currently?

3. The strength goals are easily achievable with the cycle you posted. The 3 miles under 20 minutes should also be easily doable with treadmill work. The quarter mile sprint is the issue from my perspective. I used to run that race and it makes people puke regularly much less someone with excess muscle from steroid use.

 

[thebadguy54]

1. I agree with your usage of liquidex. It makes no sense at all to drop liquidex if you know you're gynecomastia prone. liquidex = arimidex not novaldex...

2. How do you respond to Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . I think you should have EQ in that cycle since you have a goal of 3miles < 20 minutes. The quarter in under a minute is a sprint and you need to have alot of wind to accomplish that. Also you need to strip as much unnecessary bodyfat and water as possible. If anything you should up the dosage of arimidex , not drop it. In other words you're going to have to cut to make that one. What is your quarter time currently?

3. The strength goals are easily achievable with the cycle you posted. The 3 miles under 20 minutes should also be easily doable with treadmill work. The quarter mile sprint is the issue from my perspective. I used to run that race and it makes people puke regularly much less someone with excess muscle from steroid use.

I have some E Q here. I was going to save it for the next one (June) but I'll consider adding it now.

Right now my 1/4 mile time is just under 1:10 and that's at a weight of 205 lbs. You're completely right about wanting to puke every single time I run it. My 5k time (3.1 miles) is 22:08 so you're also right about the 3 miles being easier to achieve.

Maybe I'll work on the power/strength goals now and worry about the running later in the year.

Thanks for your input gjohnson!

 

[xrsist]

BRO, BASICALLY YOUR DIET WILL CONTROL HOW YOU LOOK PERIOD...I'VE SEEN GUYS ON Dianabol - methandrostenolone - WHO WERE STILL VERY LEAN AND CUT.......I THINK Sustanon 250@500MG FOR 12 WEEKS STRAIGHT WILL DO YOU GOOD BUT STACK IT WITH YOUR Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - FOR BETTER REULTS AND JOINT LUBRICANTION. WEEKS 8-12 I WOULD DECREASE MY SUS TO 325 OR 350MG AND RUN THE Winstrol - stanozolol EVERYDAY@50MG. OR RUN EVERYTHING FULL BLAST AND U WILL LOOK GOOD AND FELL GOOD, PLUS YOU WILL MORE THAN LIKELY ATTAIN YOUR GOALS....DO UR Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - @400MG A WEEK....HERES THE LAY OUT BRO.....

CYCLE 1

Sustanon 500MG 1-12WK
EQ 400MG 1-12WK
Winstrol - stanozolol 50MG ED 6-12 WK
THEN UR PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - IS COVERED OBVIOUSLY BUT RUN Clenbuterol TO KEEP YOUR SIZE AND STRENGTH.....

CYCLE2
SUST 500MG 1-8WK
EQ 400MG 1-12
SUST 350MG 8-12
WINNY 25MG ED 1-8WK THEN RUN@50MG 8-12

AND FOR THE GUYS THAT THINK YOU CANT RUN A BULKING AND CUTTING STEROID AT THE SAME TIME...YOU HAVE ALOT TO LEARN...I HAVE PERSONALLY WITNESSED AMAZING RESULTS....TAKE IT EASY BRO....

eq for only 12 weeks??

 

[holy ghost]

Wait till june for a cycle? I would be going nuts!

yo XR whats poppin in AUS right now big dog! !!!

 

[thebadguy54]

Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - for only 12 weeks??

Good point.

 

[thebadguy54]

Wait till june for a cycle? I would be going nuts!

yo XR whats poppin in AUS right now big dog! !!!

There is no way I can wait untill June either!

My plan for 08 is to start one in January and one in June.

 

[al420]

High rep training.... funny stuff.

Your goals are to be strong, so keep lifting heavy. If you want to put on a pair of womans paties and have some body paint you w/ protan then try some drop sets. If you want to be thick and strong keep working on your yoke.

 

[thebadguy54]

High rep training.... funny stuff.

Your goals are to be strong, so keep lifting heavy. If you want to put on a pair of womans paties and have some body paint you w/ protan then try some drop sets. If you want to be thick and strong keep working on your yoke.

Fuckin' right!

You da man al.

 

[holy ghost]

fuck yeah AL is the definition of Testosterone!

 

[thebadguy54]

dont even think about the Winstrol - stanozolol bro or the Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - just do the cycle you got here its perfect like most have said...Anavar - oxandrolone - is the best for reaching goals like this bro it adds strength and speed with little size witch is going to help both in your lifting goals and running goals.. the test-e is a great base dont really need any thing else like ghost and others have said drop the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - during cycle unless needed I would run HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500iu's ew during the cycle not after then run the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - and not clomid with the dermacrin sustain for PCT - post cycle therapy - bro...

some of the other supps omega said for PCT - post cycle therapy - can also help as well.

if your running the HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during the cycle there is really no need for that big blast of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - at the end....

How about this?

#1
1-12 500mg Test Enth EW
1-15 0.25mg Liquidex ED
3-12 500iu HGC EW
8-12 50mg Anavar ED
13-15 50mgs Clomid ED
16-17 5-6 pumps Dermacrine Sustain ED

or

#2
How about this?
1-12 500mg Test Enth EW
1-15 0.25mg Liquidex ED
3-12 500iu HGC EW
8-12 50mg Anavar ED
13-15 5-6 pumps Dermacrine Sustain ED

You think I should leave the clomid out completely?

 

[Nelson Montana]

How about this?

You think I should leave the clomid out completely?

I would. For PC use HC G, but you don't need nearly that much. 500iu's for 6 days, one week following the last shot. Also use UNLEASHED, Dermacrine. Continue the dexx. 1mg EOD

 

[thebadguy54]

I would. For PC use HC G, but you don't need nearly that much. 500iu's for 6 days, one week following the last shot. Also use UNLEASHED, Dermacrine. Continue the dexx. 1mg EOD

So don't bother with H CG during?

 

[needtogetaas]

How about this?

#1
1-12 500mg Test testosterone enanthate EW
1-15 0.25mg Liquidex ED
3-12 500iu HGC EW
8-12 50mg Anavar ED
13-15 50mgs Clomid ED
16-17 5-6 pumps Dermacrine Sustain ED

or

#2
How about this?
1-12 500mg Test Enth EW
1-15 0.25mg Liquidex ED
3-12 500iu HGC EW
8-12 50mg Anavar ED
13-15 5-6 pumps Dermacrine Sustain ED

You think I should leave the clomid out completely?

ya I would not take the serums on cycle bro..also you want 4 weeks of dermacrin sustain for pct the bottle should last 4 weeks.

adding some post cycle or unleashed is a good idea as well.


and like a1 said stick to the core lifts bro lift big get big.