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Brock Lesnar is a punk ass bitch
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what're you dumb?
maybe you should think about why Brock did that...maybe look at the pre-fght vids and all the shit talking Mir was doing
everone hate on the big guy...he beat Mir and Couture - massacred them, two of the best fighters in the world, destroyed them.....still questionning him? Please....
maybe you should think about why Brock did that...maybe look at the pre-fght vids and all the shit talking Mir was doing
everone hate on the big guy...he beat Mir and Couture - massacred them, two of the best fighters in the world, destroyed them.....still questionning him? Please....
you want to talk abotu post fight?
Mir walked up to him after the fight was over saying shit about him, instead of congratulating him....that's douchebaggish....Mir is an idiot and deserved that...
Lester is a showman and he likes to entertain,same as Rampage....and he sells tickets....it's all about the benjamins
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because you would look like an asshole when you get beat and cnt back it up lol
Yeah, he beat up that old man all right. lol!
I think he went overboard with the double fingers to the people who paid to see him...but that shit works in pro wrestling, so...
By the way, “I might get on top of my wife tonight.”
LMAO!
I wanted to name my kid Brock, my wife wouldn't let me. I wish I would could have watched the fight. Instead I was reading Pat the Bunny and Good Night Moon. Although reading to my son is much more rewarding
chris302001
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I doubt dana wanted his precious event to end with such a classless display of douchebaggery...
jackangel
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Thank god for wives. In this case.
javaguru
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No need for a super HW division...limit HW to 240...problem solved.
Doesn't boxing have an upper limit on HW's lower than the UFC?
redsamurai
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He destroyed Mir, and no Mir didn't say shit to him after the fight....how could he, he barely knew where he was. I've never seen a man inflict so much punishment from such a short distance. I had no idea how badly he was hurting Mir with those short punches he was dropping when he held Mir in a headlock for 3 minutes. Mir got up after the first round and I was like OMG.......dude looked like he already fought 5 rounds. I think we're seeing the value of powerlifting to an athlete. Lesnar is just too explosive. Mir caught him for a second, but he just doesn't have the firepower to finish it. If he was bigger and stronger he would have been able to take Lesnar down after he caught him and put Brock on the defensive. The only dude, save Fedor, that is going to give Lesnar any trouble is Lashley. I don't understand why Mir came to this fight looking like he last 10-15 pounds of muscle. If you're going to take a guy like brock you have to explode through him.....Mir just doesn't have that ability. Right now Velasquez is the only guy currently in the UFC who has the foundation to do something against brock....maybe Gonzaga if he gets his carreer online. I know alot of black guys are saying "wait till Kimbo arrives"..........kimbo is going to get murdered by lesnar if they ever meet. The only guys that are going to touch Lesnar are the ones that Lesnar legitimately worries about getting shot on. Otherwise he's just going to keep those big ham fists infront of his face and you're not getting through them unless your name is Fedor.
redsamurai
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I can't beleive nobody's talking about what a POS Henderson was for dropping that forearm into bisping when the dude's hands were stiffened down by his midsection. Henderson even admitted that he slid that forearm in for fun. That was bullshit. There was no fucking animosity between them, it was all made up for ultimate fighter coaches drama...just like forrest and rampage. Henderson was one of my favorite fighters until tonight. I wanted him to go on and destroy anderson, but not now.
My Two cents, After being a semi-pro Lesnar fan, Brock did not give the UFC a good look on that one. The UFC has spent a long time trying to get it and the rest of the sport away from, We are all just a bunch of dumb meat heads who have nothing better to do than cuss and drink and fight every chance we get. Brock pretty much undid that in two min. Mir is cocky, but so is Brock. They both talk shit but it was Brock who kept it going after the win. He just looked like a classless winner to me. I also think Herb Dean did a sub par, at best, job of reffing tonight. It should have been stood up in the first round but what do ya do. Brock got the win, and got it in dominating fashion. He still is however Immature, and a poor winner. 5-1 isn't a good enough record to own a belt. Not even good enough for little league girls flag football.
canadianhitman
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I am OK with Brock trashing Mir after the fight, given the trash-talking Mir had done leading into this fight.
I am OK with Brock flipping off the idiot fans that were booing him.
I think disrespecting Budweiser, one of the UFC's biggest sponsors, was a no-no and will be the only thing Dana White chastises him for.
I am OK with Brock flipping off the idiot fans that were booing him.
I think disrespecting Budweiser, one of the UFC's biggest sponsors, was a no-no and will be the only thing Dana White chastises him for.
I didn't see the fight so i don't know what happened afterward. Post fight you should respect your opponent, regardless of trash talking. That's the one thing i liked about the WEC - Brown vs. Faber II. Both fighters showed respect for one an other. Class acts those two.
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olololol! @ Brock saying he was going home to drink Coors Light cuz Bud Light woodn't pay him shit
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dana white set his bitchass straight post fight:
Brock Lesnar undisputed champ, perfect villain for UFC - Arash Markazi - SI.com
"While Lesnar may have looked like an uncontrollable loose cannon after the fight, he was a changed man when he walked into the press room soon after. Wearing a wide smile and holding a Bud Light, he took a big swig as he looked at White and said, "I love Bud Light! I must have caught a hard knee to the head."
After the fight White had pulled Lesnar out of the locker room and chewed him out before Lesnar nodded his head and said that he was embarrassed and sorry. For as entertaining as Lesnar's act might have been to some, White has worked hard to attract mainstream advertisers like Bud Light and Burger King as wasn't about to let Lesnar ruin those relationships in an effort to momentarily incite the crowd.
"I was blown away. I don't think in the history of the UFC we've ever had someone do something like that," said White. "It's not who we are and it's not who he is. I've spent time with the guy. He gets in there and the adrenaline starts kicking and the mouth starts moving, but the brain isn't sending anything to his mouth. If he was a [bad guy], I would tell you, but he's not. He's a smart guy. He's been in the WWE so long that he thinks he has to jump in there and be the heel."
Brock Lesnar undisputed champ, perfect villain for UFC - Arash Markazi - SI.com
"While Lesnar may have looked like an uncontrollable loose cannon after the fight, he was a changed man when he walked into the press room soon after. Wearing a wide smile and holding a Bud Light, he took a big swig as he looked at White and said, "I love Bud Light! I must have caught a hard knee to the head."
After the fight White had pulled Lesnar out of the locker room and chewed him out before Lesnar nodded his head and said that he was embarrassed and sorry. For as entertaining as Lesnar's act might have been to some, White has worked hard to attract mainstream advertisers like Bud Light and Burger King as wasn't about to let Lesnar ruin those relationships in an effort to momentarily incite the crowd.
"I was blown away. I don't think in the history of the UFC we've ever had someone do something like that," said White. "It's not who we are and it's not who he is. I've spent time with the guy. He gets in there and the adrenaline starts kicking and the mouth starts moving, but the brain isn't sending anything to his mouth. If he was a [bad guy], I would tell you, but he's not. He's a smart guy. He's been in the WWE so long that he thinks he has to jump in there and be the heel."
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I'm sure there's stipulaitons in Brock's UFC contract pertaining to punitive reprimands for not supporting sponsors.
you better believe it.
Hendo fought until the Referee pulled him off. His adrenaline was probably going harder than any of us have ever experienced, and he reacted the same way he did when he knocked out Wanderlei. When your career is on the line you MAKE SURE you win the fight, and that means fighting until the Referee says otherwise.
Rampage on the other hand, after he knocked out wanderlei, the ref wraps his arms around his waist and tries to yank him off, but Rampage being bigger and stronger than the ref, refuses to budge so he can land extra shots on an unconscious opponent.
If you really lost respect for Hendo, I really hope you're not a Rampage fan, because that would be pretty goddamned hypocritical.
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Hendo, butt by his own admission he threw down an extra shot to keep Bisping STFU a little longer
Meh, I like Brock Lestner.....he's a good broheim
Mir on the other hand talked shit before AND after the fight...watch the vids he walked up to Brock once he couldget himeselfoff the floor and talked shit and thats why Brock walked back over to him
Mir on the other hand talked shit before AND after the fight...watch the vids he walked up to Brock once he couldget himeselfoff the floor and talked shit and thats why Brock walked back over to him
chris302001
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you say that like its a bad thing.
Brock lesnar is the fucking man. the guy is 265 pounds of muscle. he was on top of mir the whole time. mir talked alot of shit because of the first fight. lesnar was a new fighter so he caught him off gaurd, but i think lesnar is the next big thing in the ufc.
the henderson and bisping fight, bisping was so cocky during the ultimate fighter, i like him as a fighter but he deserved that extra punch.
the henderson and bisping fight, bisping was so cocky during the ultimate fighter, i like him as a fighter but he deserved that extra punch.
redsamurai
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he's 265 for the weigh in bro, in the ring he's pushing 285-290. Thiago does the same thing, they say he was almost 200 for the fight with GSP. They should make the weigh ins a couple hours before the fight so that there isn't this big discrepancy....either that or make a SHW division so that Brock can just say fuck it and come in at 300. He just has too much mass for 230-240 pound guys. Velasquez is the only guy in the division who'll be able to test him.
bro, i know how it works. they cant make the weigh ins a couiple hours before the fight because the person trying to lose weight to get there will be drained, tired, weak, etc etc etc. every fighter fights at a lower weight. anderson silva is 205 and fights 185, gsp is 185 and fights at 170, bj pen is 165-170 and fights at 155. its an advantage. why would anyone want to fight at a higher weight. only person that i know is anderson silva who fought at 185 and at 205, but thats why he is ranked the #1 pound-for-pound mma fighter.
redsamurai
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Well my feeling is that if you're going to fight at 170, you shouldn't have to cut more than 10 pounds to get there. Look at Lesnar when he came out for the weigh ins, the difference between that and when he fought is unbeleivable. It's just too much. If Lesnar has to make 265 for the fight, he should be fighting at no more than 270 which means that's the weight he has to basically train at. Thiago putting on nearly 30 pounds in a day and a half is just ridiculous.....shouldn't be allowed.
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How's it different from any other sport that competes in weight classes?
redsamurai
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It's not, I'm just saying that guys should be held to the weight they weigh in at, otherwise what's the point weightclasses?
bro, you act like they go back home and put on 30 pounds of muscle. its just water weight and glycogen storage that they had to lose to drop weight. obviously brock is a big guy and will hold on to alot more water and he has to eat to fill his glycogen back. you act like its cheating. anyone can fight at any weight, they just have to make weight at the weigh ins. boxing is the same. its not like brock or thiago's fault that gsp and mir didnt take advantage. obviously if it were cheating, the rules would be different, but its not. boxing is the same way and they havent changed any rules. so thiago was 200 pounds during the fight, the weight obviously didnt help him.
redsamurai
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I"m not saying it's cheating necessarily......but it certainly helped Lesnar no doubt. I think he wouldn't lose any strength if they held him to 265-270....he just wouldn't have so much freakin mass. It doesn't make for good fights when one dude has the ability to weigh 40-50 pounds more than his opponent. You could tell that Mir trained at his bodyweight......he's just not in the same weight class as Lesnar. If they keep things as is, they're basically forcing guys to put on 20-30 pounds of muscle so they can even remotely compete with Lesnar. ANd that OBVIOUSLY is going to encourage drug use. I'm not saying Lesnar is using roids now, but he certainly achieved his mass and frame from prior drug use....that is a given. I'm not taking anything away from his athletic ability......but he either still used GH or used it extensively in the past. ONe look at his face is all you need. He's not the only one though.
he would definitely lose strength. he came in at exactly 265. im sure hes dehydrated and weak from all the cardio, dehydration, sauna, etc etc. and brock was only 275. thiago alves weighs 200 and had to drop to 170 to make weight, i dont htink he jumped back to 200 for the fight. also, dont forget, when you deplete your glycogen storage, then start filling it back up, you have 1.5 as much space to fill. thats why bodybuilders deplete their glycogen the wek before the show and jump up 12-15 pounds the day of from all the carbs. and theyre just posing, these mma fighters need the carbs for endurance for these five 5 minute rounds. n ot trying to be a dick or anthing bro, just stating something when it does sound a bit rediculous.
fedor would ruin his shit
Arlovski is overrated
chris302001
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empirebuilder
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Arlovski got absolutely pulverized by Mr. Rogers!
redsamurai
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I didn't beleive that alves looked 200, but that was what they were saying. And LOL at lesnar being 275, not a chance. He was definitely more than 10 pounds over his weigh in, look at the vid of the weigh in and tell me he came in at 275.
And yes of course the way things are the fighters would lose strength, but what I'm saying is that if they trained closer to their fighting weight, they wouldn't lose so much strength. Lesnar is running his camp between 290 and 300. I understand what I'm suggesting, that guys like Lesnar would have to drop some muscle mass to run camp closer to their weigh in otherwise they're cutting too much and would not have the same physical abilities that they ran through camp with. I also understand that alot of that is water weight, but mass is mass......Lesnar is a giant walking physics equation. When Lesnar tried to play ball he couldn't get past the practice squad offensive lineman......that is not a joke by the way. So you can see that men who were probably not quite as outright strong as lesnar, were still able to compete with him because they were around his weight. That's my point about evening up the mass equation.
It's not going to happen........so we have to wait for guys that weigh what lesnar does before we see any real competition for him. No guy under 250 is going to do shit to him, watch Bob Sapp fights if you're not buying that. Lesnar did the same shit when Mir caught him, he just covered up and smothered Mir than lay on him to recover. Bob Sapp playbook right there.
And yes of course the way things are the fighters would lose strength, but what I'm saying is that if they trained closer to their fighting weight, they wouldn't lose so much strength. Lesnar is running his camp between 290 and 300. I understand what I'm suggesting, that guys like Lesnar would have to drop some muscle mass to run camp closer to their weigh in otherwise they're cutting too much and would not have the same physical abilities that they ran through camp with. I also understand that alot of that is water weight, but mass is mass......Lesnar is a giant walking physics equation. When Lesnar tried to play ball he couldn't get past the practice squad offensive lineman......that is not a joke by the way. So you can see that men who were probably not quite as outright strong as lesnar, were still able to compete with him because they were around his weight. That's my point about evening up the mass equation.
It's not going to happen........so we have to wait for guys that weigh what lesnar does before we see any real competition for him. No guy under 250 is going to do shit to him, watch Bob Sapp fights if you're not buying that. Lesnar did the same shit when Mir caught him, he just covered up and smothered Mir than lay on him to recover. Bob Sapp playbook right there. I didn't beleive that alves looked 200, but that was what they were saying. And LOL at lesnar being 275, not a chance. He was definitely more than 10 pounds over his weigh in, look at the vid of the weigh in and tell me he came in at 275.
And yes of course the way things are the fighters would lose strength, but what I'm saying is that if they trained closer to their fighting weight, they wouldn't lose so much strength. Lesnar is running his camp between 290 and 300. I understand what I'm suggesting, that guys like Lesnar would have to drop some muscle mass to run camp closer to their weigh in otherwise they're cutting too much and would not have the same physical abilities that they ran through camp with. I also understand that alot of that is water weight, but mass is mass......Lesnar is a giant walking physics equation. When Lesnar tried to play ball he couldn't get past the practice squad offensive lineman......that is not a joke by the way. So you can see that men who were probably not quite as outright strong as lesnar, were still able to compete with him because they were around his weight. That's my point about evening up the mass equation.
that would mean they have to eat healthy year round. now thats hard. bodbuilders weigh 280+ pounds in the off season and they come to the weigh ins at 230-240. so is that cheating? shouldnt the bodybuilder have to stay between 10 pounds of his competing weight? weight or no weight, the classes are set in stone. the heaviweight division has a 60 pound gap, thats just how they made it while the other weight classes only have a gap of 15-20 pounds.
Dana reamed him out after the event. In the post fight press conference Brock apologized publicly even to Budweiser.
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How about Gonzaga?
Wide body who KTFO Cro Cop with a high kick, but is a black belt in BJJ so wood have a chance when Brock takes him down.
redsamurai
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He has the physical firepower to KO brock, but he doesn't have the heart. The couture fight exposed him for that. If Randy could take him down at will and avoid his submissions, Lesnar will do much worse.
illuminazi
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Fedor makes everyone look like amatures! Fedor has beaten even bigger guys than Lesnar; who is not a real skilled fighter ,and is going on just size and ego; oh yeah, and steroids. Who ever disagrees is an idiot and has not seen Fedor fight.
i have seen fedor fight and he totally ruins peoples shit. there was a show on tv about him called baddest man on the planet or something. its like all he does is live in siberia and train for MMA all his life lol.
redsamurai
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dude relax, we all pretty much agree with you that fedor is still the best fighter in the world. But c'mon, if you think fedor's never used anything you're tripping too. I definitely see signs of past gh use on fedor, no..not as much as you see it in brocks face...for sure. But all fighters use, only the stupid ones use anything besides suspension or prop. It still amazes me that athletes get jacked for deca....it's like did you not do your research?
definitely, why wouldnt anyone want the upper advantage? there are so many ways around test and gh doesnt even come up. and also suspension and prop is out of their system quick. i think they use deca strictly for the joints. i know in the wwe, almost every wrestler uses deca, their joints just cant take the pounding from getting slammed every few seconds. maybe they have switched to npp for quick clearing of the system.
redsamurai
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well, my thoughts on juice in pro sports is if one does em....it forces everyone to also do them. Pro sports to me is what can a dedicated athlete do with the human body sans PED's. These guy's eat, sleep and train for a living. But it seems like nowadays guys want to live like hammer while still being top level athletes, so they juice. Juicing is for us guys that have to work bullshit jobs for a living and can't eat and sleep like athletes. Just my opinion.
well my opinion is very different from yours. i believe bodybuilders for example, have to take steroids because of their job. they are putting their life and health at risk because thats what it takes to make it in bodybuilding. Us gym rats on the other hand are risking our lives and health for no reason at all, we dont get a penny. These drugs make average athletes into good athletes, and it makes good athletes into great athletes. if you ask me, we are the one that shouldnt be on the juice.
redsamurai
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health is health, whether you're making millions or making minimum wage. But i see your point. I personally don'g take anymore. In the future I'm only going to take HRT doses of GH and test gel, that's it. I had a heart scare so I'm done.
You're expecting a fighter to be civilized in the ring....isn't that like asking a race car driver not to speed? lol
redsamurai
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the whole fighting in a cage thing is uncivilized, but when it comes to blatant possibly life ending shit like that....there's a line to be drawn. You smash a forearm into a mans face while he's lying on the ground you can drive parts of his skull into his brain. The ground acts as a nice backstop. He lept in the air and dropped a forearm smash down on a mans face who's arms were locked down around his midsection cause he was sleepin. Grey area is greay area, sometimes you're swinging before you know he's out. Not the case with Hen, he admitted it after the fight. He should have at least said I realized too late he was out. I'm not a big fan of bispings either but I thought for sure they were going to have to carry him out on a stretcher. The dude was under the catscan sat. night for sure. I loved the initial knockout, one of the best I"ve ever seen......I just can't show love for what he did after that.
jackangel
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Meh. Death is just the next level. All of this is meant to be barbaric and brutal and violent and aggressive (but not boring...which it usually is). There are no redeeming qualities here (except for apologists/enthusiasts). Bring in the next victim.
When do they bring in the razor-gloves, attack dogs, mines, and shuriken? Sign me up for that PPV.
When do they bring in the razor-gloves, attack dogs, mines, and shuriken? Sign me up for that PPV.
I think you should step your game up.
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redsamurai
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I read that Dana was "HOT" over the whole coors budlight thing. Ecverything else he could have probably let slide, it's entertainment. But openly mocking the main sponsor of the event was probably not the smartest move. Dana wants to go mainstream, he'll drop Lesnar in a heartbeat if he thinks he's bad for business in any way.
Id hate to think what would be done to me if I didnt support the sponsors here.lol
Thanks for the link btw. Awesome!
stephen4327
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good night cow jumping over the moon
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jd_uk
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As much as I want to like MMA I can't. From the guy who runs UFC and his pathetic rants online to the barbaric and disrepectful behaviour of the fighters. For me, it isn't a sport but mere fighting. I can appreciate the skill and training involved but there's so much missing from it that makes other sports great. I know I'm in the minority on here but I'd much rather watch the discipline and excitement involved in a good boxing fight than the standard UFC fight which goes to the ground while the crowd chant 'fuck him up'. You only have to watch a show like the contender and then the ultimate fighter to see the different types of people the two sports attract. The only UFC fighter to impress me as an athlete and as a man is GSP.
As for Brock Lesnar, what a f'in tool. Looking forward to seeing him get beat.
As for Brock Lesnar, what a f'in tool. Looking forward to seeing him get beat.
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There are many world class athletes in the UFC.
If you want to appreciate the way the sport has evolved watch UFC 1 then watch UFC 100.
iron_matt-CB
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Lesnar is a manchild plain and simple.. I don't see anyone stopping him anytime soon... I love the way he reacted, it was so entertaining..I love Brock
jd_uk
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Yeah there are some excellent athletes and i do watch it if it's on but i said GSP was the only guy that impressed me both as an athlete and as a man. I can't really get too excited about many MMA fights like I can with a big boxing fight for the reasons i already stated. There's just so much that's tasteless about UFC.
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Same here bro....I love the entertainment and excitement he brings. Although he is disrepectfull somewhat and i could see how ppl dont like him, still fun to watch him pound ppl.
canadianhitman
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Did you see the offer from the UFC Fedor turned down?!?!
I can't help but feel that maybe he wants no part of Brock Lesnar. It just doesn't make any sense for him to turn down a six-fight, 30million dollar deal PLUS PPV bonuses on top of that over Dana White's refusal to co-promote with M1-Global.
The Fedor nut-huggers will balk, but if it looks like a duck...walks like a duck...sounds like a duck...
I can't help but feel that maybe he wants no part of Brock Lesnar. It just doesn't make any sense for him to turn down a six-fight, 30million dollar deal PLUS PPV bonuses on top of that over Dana White's refusal to co-promote with M1-Global.
The Fedor nut-huggers will balk, but if it looks like a duck...walks like a duck...sounds like a duck...
crazyjoe
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Fedor has always said that he doesn't like the way Dana treats fighters.
canadianhitman
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I wish someone would treat me as badly as Dana was willing to treat Fedor: 5 mil per fight and a cut of the PPV take?!?!
I think Brock was just sick of everyone saying he's not a fighter and that's who he was venting at. And why should he promote a beer he clearly doesn't drink when they wont pay him what he thinks is enough. I think Brock is the most exciting thing in MMA right now. I may be a little bias, as he is my ex's cousin and the times I've met him, he really is a nice guy. Bs'd with him over a few beers and he was really cool.
