British Drangon Opinions

[Wrongun]

Re: huh....

I'm not giving you details on every fucking way I operate......let's just say that I don't test every single batch........but other people do so I don't have to test every batch. THink of it as a merry-go-round......with different people taking turns and sharing in the cost.

The tabs I get are not from any fucking kitchen......they're made w/ solid bonding fillers......no powdery cheap residue all over.....and they aren't crumbly like alot of UG shit these days. My UG is sterile, loyal and cheap.....and those are the only three things I give a fuck about.....

.......while you pay double or triple what I pay......

But how do you know or is it your own kitchen

Also not sure why you feel the need to use the word ''fucking'' are you a little stressed at the present LMFAO

Wrongun!

 

[DIVISION]

Re: huh....

But how do you know or is it your own kitchen

Also not sure why you feel the need to use the word ''fucking'' are you a little stressed at the present LMFAO

Nah.......if I was making my own gear, I'd be spending even less...about 1/4 of what you pay for you're "quality" BD gear.

Evidently you still haven't grasped that buying in bulk saves you alot.

 

[Wrongun]

My god you're dense. Where did EQ come into this anyway? We were talking about the BD Deca and it testing at 324. Are you claiming that both SRCS tests done on the Deca and Tren are bogus? Wrong? Incorrect? Are you saying the people at this testing facility don't know what they are doing? Allow me to let you in on a little secret about UG labs. You see Corky, UG labs will have many labels printed up at one time. And these labels, even with the same batch number or expiration date printed on them, will be used for different batches of sauce that are made. Thats right, a hundred bottles could be made on Tuesday, and another hundred could be made on Friday, but the same labels will be used for both batches. This is how one bottle could test at 258mg/ml, and another one from the same company test at 324mg/ml. So, about that apology you owe me....

You are now annoying as you refuse to read what is in front of you. It appears you selectively miss sections as as to make yourself feel better.

for the last time and please feel free to read this time

Form Ret

Boldabol THAT IS EQ you HENCE MY STATEMENT

I then also quoted Ret who states they myust be wrong and the repriots were never published or athenmtised so were they wrong? incorrect whot the fuck knows as they have never been seen. The rest of the reports have been and are within MY (please note not yours) 5% range

Now i have kept this really short so i do not lose your limited concentration.

Reports posted, authetisised and discussed are within 5%. Boldabol is EQ and so please read above and try and keep up.
The Decca reports have not been seen and ret stated they could have been wrong as not published nor authentised so until that is done i can not comment (although sure you will refuse to read the rest and continue with this one as there is no proof either way).

Now we have got that clear ''corky'' (what ever the fuck that means but like to think it amuses you and your school friends''. Now i am not looking for an apology as this board is about debate. Debate means there is no real right or wrong just differeing of opinions. To discuss those opinions you do need to be factual and also you need to listen / read all and not just the bits you want to.

Now hopefully you have brought yourself up to speed we can move on.

Wrongun!

Please if you intend to reply please do me the courtesy of reading all the text as it is labourous going over the same points do you not agree. I also have no wish to make you look silly as spellings etc are part of posting and not fully proof reading but hey this is meant to be fun and educational. So please note Boldabol = EQ

Wrongun!

 

[georgie24]

bd is out of my price range right now. on the other hand qgl's prop is on point!!

 

[puddlemonkey]

Boldabol THAT IS EQ you HENCE MY STATEMENT

You keep going back to the EQ results. I know what EQ is doof, I'm refering to the SRCS results on the Deca that was 324mg/ml. I was never talking about EQ to start with. Ret said, "SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml." He went on to say, "I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards."

So please explain to me again why its ok to use a British Dragon product that is overdosed by 23% but I should stay clear of a Zencall product that is overdosed the same?

 

[georgie24]

zencall has a solid rep!! and a loyal base!! who ever says steer clear of zencall is talking out there ass

 

[Wrongun]

You keep going back to the EQ results. I know what EQ is doof, I'm refering to the SRCS results on the Deca that was 324mg/ml. I was never talking about EQ to start with. Ret said, "SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml." He went on to say, "I have those lab test results but I don`t have a permission to post them on the open boards."

So please explain to me again why its ok to use a British Dragon product that is overdosed by 23% but I should stay clear of a Zencall product that is overdosed the same?

Look ''doof'' (what do they teach you in school over there but hopefully it appeals to you)

You stated (i will quote so as not to upset your selective reading again)

''Where did EQ come into this anyway''

Because and i will quote Ret ''There are lots of lab results posted on the boards, according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004 their Boldabol is overdosed 208mg/1ml''

I used this example as published vivible and authenticated

In summary ''doof'' this is why i used the facts to set my example. Again this time could have been saved if you would spend the time to read properly.

OK as for the other results and i will quote ALL of Ret AGAIN for you as you seem to miss the relevant part (it is relevant as only he has the results and they have not been viewed or authenticated. All other independent tests have shown within the range as far as we know and will refer back to the EQ test according to Bill Llevellyn`s Anabolics 2004)

Ret stated ''BTW funny thing but SRCS tested their deca as 324mg/1ml and their tren acetate as 115mg/1ml. I guess they made a mistake''

PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THE LAST SENTANCE. If this is true or not i can not establish (not can you) as he (Ret) is the only one who knows:

1) if the tests exist
2) Who conducted them (independant or lab checking quality)
3) if they were accurate (authentic)

Without this knowledge then i have used the authenticated facts and figures issued.

Now come on even to the simple ''dooff'' you must now understand as to where the EQ (which is Boldabol so we have no misunderstanding there). This should also show why my feelings are such.

Again bottom line it is personal choice and with the benefit of redeuced financial constraints you do have more of a choice and can offset more of the risk (IF YOU BELIEVE THERE IS ONE WHICH I DO)

To summarise again i live in the UK where our laws surrounding AAS are far more ''user friendly'' and pharm grade is cost effective and available. If i require to use a product that is not readily available in pharm grade then MY choice is Brit Dragon for the reasons above (and again cost effective and available but current UK laws will have a bearing on that as i am sure you can appreciate). The same can be said for your choice (obviously not knowing your financial situation or what other formula you require to make your choice). The debate was why we chose to select a certain product. You stated cost and being overdosed as benefits. I debate being that much overdosed is not a benefit.

Now if you do wish to continue this debate then please read the post and be constructive. We can not use IMHO tests that have not been seen, aithenticated and has the opinion of the person who has them they there are wrong (for whatever reason and no details available).

If not then i really do think we have beaten this to death and it comes back to personal choice.

Happy reading (please read all of it and if you are intent on quoting please quote all)

Wrongun!

 

[Wrongun]

zencall has a solid rep!! and a loyal base!! who ever says steer clear of zencall is talking out there ass

Noone is actually saying that are they?

Again personal choice the debate was cost of Brit Drag.

Wrongun!

 

[XxPhantoMxX]

One reason is because then you have to buy powders, and some people who live in the USA are reluctant to do that because when they have a final product for consumption sent ot their house, it's not such a big deal if it gets seized, just get a seizure notice for attempting to get personal use gear, if it's powder-thats a little more risky-they might think your making something to sell it like your trying to make money off of it, or dealing it-then they might start eyeing you-so some people prefer to play it safe and just pay a little more ofr the finished product, also that way they don't have to go through the hassle of making stuff and they don't have to buy the lab equipment.

Why not just go with powders instead of whatever ug lab. You get 2 grams tested, and with the 100 grams left you are able to prepare good products (with known concentrations) for a couple of years. The cheapest and the most reliable IMO.

 

[Retabolil2]

Well this has certainly been quite a chat, just a few facts about British Dragon that should be noted:

1. 'British Dragon' originates from British Dispensary, you may have seen a British Dispensary 'Thai pinks' bottle and noticed the little red dragon emblem they put on all their products; initially people started counterfeiting those, then someone had this idea-either in Russia or Thailand, lets make a UG product called 'British Dragon' that way we can paddle in Dispensarys huge wake. 'British Dragon' will always be an underground lab because if it were not the very real British Dispensary would sue their ass.

2. There are AT LEAST 2 different UG labs of 'British Dragon'; one is Russian, the other Thai(orals)/Greek(injectables) the one that JoBu (on this thread) is talking about is (probably) the Russian one, the one that wrongun is talking about is the Thai/Greek. It's not fair to say which one is 'counterfeit' but I think they are both reasonably legit as far as quality. I'll give you a funny example: I was looking at this one web-site source once and they were selling the BD injectables, I confirmed that those injectables were being supplied by BDGreek (or at least some of them were), but the oral tablets that were listed on the site were clearly the Russian ones! So a single source was selling 2 different 'British Dragons'! LOL

The point is that with any UG lab you have to trust the source your getting them from; the guy your sending the WU to, that guy. A good way to do that is ask your source if he uses his own products, ask him what kind of cycle's he's run and maybe what he would recommend for you-if he has no clue as to what the hell your even talking about the I guess he's not really a bro, maybe he's just some guy that like to make money by selling whatever.

I totally disagree with wronguns assertion that you can be a UG lab and a real lab at the same time! because BD doesn't make them in a 'kitchen'; that little room in Greece or Russia or wherever where they make the 10ml bottles; they measure the materials and mix a larger quantity of the stuff and manually fill the 10ml bottles then they flip-top em, then they manually put the little labels on them. when doing it this way it's very tedious work but I'm sure they do everything they can to maintain quality and sterility-but mistakes happen. Someone just mentioned Body Research; it's expensive but it's totally automized, just recently the Thai FDA suspended Body Research for a month just because this minor indiscrepency-they were making AAS in the same facility they were making other drugs-apparently that was against the rules-but just the fact that they are subject to random inspections, where the inspect everything, from quality, to paperwork, to sterility-an organon or a body research, these products are 100% spot on; where a UG lab is pretty good, especially if it's a UG lab making orals, orals are easier because there is less room for mistakes, it's just the chemical, you don't have to filter or convert, as long as you just disperse the chemical evenly you got a top quality product..but with UG lab injecatbles there is more possibility that a mistake can be made during the process..

One last note about 10ml bottles, 10ml bottles are harder to get past US customs then amps, i think it's because amps are thinner, but clearlt the 10ml bottles get seized more than anything..

Actually there is no russian British Dragon in this world. One russian dealer has stolen BD name and used it to sell stuff made in China by C&K. Their products are well known and trusted but some smart russian dealers prefer to sell it under BD name to make more money! Same situation with so called Hubei stuff. Its being made in China and blistered in Russia, hubei huangshi doesn`t even exist!