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How many of you guys like GTP? what about British dragon? Pro's cons of both companies? Both seem professional as hell but who is better overall? 
British Dragon V.S GTP!!!!!! POLL!
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Retabolil2
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What is GTP? 
Baywatch69
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BD over GTP anyday, Not that there is anything wrong with GTP.
BD offer TABLETS whereas GTP just offer capsules, the same as most other small UG labs. That for me is a big difference
BD offer TABLETS whereas GTP just offer capsules, the same as most other small UG labs. That for me is a big difference
Retabolil2
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BD is well known and most famous UG Lab out there.Bobbie said:
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satchboogie
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ok so think about this one..
whose a better lab?
1) BALCO (or whatever the name of the lab that was providing baseball players with steroids)
2) BD
surely, BD is much much more popularly known!
thats a fact!!
but does that mean they make better gear?
i will bet my last dollar that BALCO produced much more accurately doses gear and SUPER CLEAN gear!! NO FAKES THERE!
shit..
if they provided pro athletes they MUST have been super solid!
but they were super low key.. nobody knew about them!
so had a poll been conduced before the BALCO bust titled "BALCO vs. BD".. who would win?
of course BD would win by a landslide..
you see my point i hope..
food for thought..
BD been around much longer and provides good quality gear.
they're a fuckin massive massive operation!!!
GTP for 4 years and running strong.. and is NOT intersted in multi million dollar profits..
GTP's business philosophy has been to provide customers with top quality gear at a fair price and to stay consistent which they clearly have throughout the years..
lab test after lab test they always come through!
but comparing the 2 is like comparing apples to oranges.
ok so think about this one..
whose a better lab?
1) BALCO (or whatever the name of the lab that was providing baseball players with steroids)
2) BD
surely, BD is much much more popularly known!
thats a fact!!
but does that mean they make better gear?
i will bet my last dollar that BALCO produced much more accurately doses gear and SUPER CLEAN gear!! NO FAKES THERE!
shit..
if they provided pro athletes they MUST have been super solid!
but they were super low key.. nobody knew about them!
so had a poll been conduced before the BALCO bust titled "BALCO vs. BD".. who would win?
of course BD would win by a landslide..
you see my point i hope..
food for thought..
BD been around much longer and provides good quality gear.
they're a fuckin massive massive operation!!!
GTP for 4 years and running strong.. and is NOT intersted in multi million dollar profits..
GTP's business philosophy has been to provide customers with top quality gear at a fair price and to stay consistent which they clearly have throughout the years..
lab test after lab test they always come through!
but comparing the 2 is like comparing apples to oranges.
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think this post is sort of biased in my opinion...clearly there are posts of results about GTP as of late and how great the gains are from it....BD posts as well, but more of they are faked alot be careful, i don't trust BD due too so many fakes...
So i'm sure one can come to conclusion which to use or buy the same gear from each place and experiement.
So i'm sure one can come to conclusion which to use or buy the same gear from each place and experiement.
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satchboogie
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gtrcivic said:
you have good points there bro.
BD is very often faked...
in fact read this article on the bottom of this post.. itll surprise you!
now surely you can find a supplier of legit BD gear and i personally know a good bro on this board (ahem ahem) who is super legit with BD gear..
but for those who dont know where to shop safely, buying BD gear is a risk...
GTP never faked!
once again.. strange comparison.
British Dragon - Scary Stuff!!!
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MUSCULAR DEVELOPMENT, JUNE 2005
QUESTION:
I heard there are new fakes of british dragon going around that
look really sharp.
Have you heard about these?
How do i spot them?
ANSWER:
There are indeed fakes of the British Dragon line circulating. Bd
has become one very poopular company over the past few years. BD is
in such high demand, however, that the counterfeiters just cannot
resisit knocking them off.
Ive been in direct contact with the company for some time now and
they have been finding themselves in constant need of upgrading
their security features to stay one step ahead of the crooks.
First they used holograms, which were quickly copied. Custom pill
dyes - they knocked tese off, too. Then they started using foil
inlays in tehir vial labels. These, too, were duplicated very
quickly. In ANABOLICS 2005, at the advice of the company
principle, i mentioned the need to examine the plastic tops fo the
words "TEAR AND FLIP UP".
At the time of publication, the coutnerfeiters, had not located
these specific vial tops and were using ones that read only "FLIP
TOP". It was a good way to catch them. But not one month later
after ANABOLICS 2005 hit the bookshelves, one persitent russian
counterfeiter found the correct BD tops and released yet another
wave of excellent-looking fakes consumers were ill prepared for.
Pictures of one of these recent fakes , next to the last version of
real BD product to be sold, are included for your review. These new
fakes have everything, including the foil and correct tops. Only
the lettering is a little off!
So, what was BD left to do with yet another high-quality fake to
compete with?
What any enterprising steroid company would do; they are upgrading
their security features again. From now on, all new lots of
injectable-molded customer rubber stoppers. Thats right. A first
for any steroid company, the rubber stoppers from BD will now carry
the company logo right in the rubber. Given the high cost involved
in a project like this, lets hope its enough to deter the fakers
for a while.
I have no problem with GTP. They seem to be a good bunch of guys.
But you can't say comparing one UG lab to another is apples and oranges when they are both making the same product and getting their raw materials from the same place. It's likely that there will be preferences to one over the other simply because people will vote for who they have experience with. And very few have experience with both. So the poll will likely be skewed in favor to the better known brand. GTP may have been around for 4 yrs but I haven't known about them that long. BD has been around since 1997 if memory serves and was wildly popular from 1999 to present. So this will result in a landslide for BD.
But you can't say comparing one UG lab to another is apples and oranges when they are both making the same product and getting their raw materials from the same place. It's likely that there will be preferences to one over the other simply because people will vote for who they have experience with. And very few have experience with both. So the poll will likely be skewed in favor to the better known brand. GTP may have been around for 4 yrs but I haven't known about them that long. BD has been around since 1997 if memory serves and was wildly popular from 1999 to present. So this will result in a landslide for BD.
needtogetaas
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hit the nail right on the head there bro.#1reason why I wont use bd.half of them are fucking fake.gtp hase never had a problem with this ever.gtrcivic said:
musclehealth said:How many of you guys like GTP? what about British dragon? Pro's cons of both companies? Both seem professional as hell but who is better overall?
Bro, I will respond, but cannot vote. I have used both alot. I love both brands ALOT, no complaints or issues with either one.
Both are quality brands, quality gear, and cannot complain about neither.
With that said, this cycle and cycle prior was strictly GTP gear. Testing their EQ500 now, and with the exception of my shering primo cycle, will probably use the GTP Test and EQ again, very happy with it and comes out to be cheaper than BD.
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tatman3177
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ive never tried bd but plan to in the future, but i have tried gtp and to me its damn good gear. its a bit painfull at first but hey it all is to some extent. but i also think that if some one does not have the experience of one or the other then they can only answer one way. that person can only answer from what they have heard. i my self plan to use both then decide which works best for ME, and continue to use what works best for me.
I was away from the board for a while and when I came back started with GTP and had no problems at all - great results. I just received some BD products for the first time, I hope I made the right decision. From what I have learned the BD products are reputable and stand up to what they promise, and I'm pretty sure these aren't fakes. I still intend to use GTP also...
Stainless_Steel
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I haven't used either one yet. I'm going to go with BD because its what my choosen supplier sells and I seriously doubt they will ever sell GTP. Maybe if hell freezes over. lol
As far as which is better I don't know? If you have a legit source and are happy with the price of it I am sure both are great. I've heard nothing but good things with both.
As far as which is better I don't know? If you have a legit source and are happy with the price of it I am sure both are great. I've heard nothing but good things with both.
bowtech said:
What I do like about BD, is the new security measures they have enacted to assist with fakes. While GTP doesn't have an issue with Fakes at this time, they more popular they are, the quicker it will happen. The new BD's having their symbol molded into the rubber stopper is pretty cool, very tough to duplicate without expensive machinery. Probably my favorite thing about BD, other than maybe the hallucinagenic labels........dey bee pertty.
Lateralus1
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Not even close. BD.
If the worst criticism you can think of for BD is fakes, I think that speaks for itself.
Get it straight from one of the trusted sources and you're fine.
If the worst criticism you can think of for BD is fakes, I think that speaks for itself.
Get it straight from one of the trusted sources and you're fine.
little chris
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I have used both and have no complaints about either.
LVTitan
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i've not used GTP yet, but they seem to have a pretty solid rep. I have used BD with success in the past, and have ordered tons of BD gear for my bros who have been happy with the results..
i am not opposed to using GTP, just havent yet.
i have a good solid source for UG gear, and a solid source for SYRUS and have been happy with both the products and the prices.
i am not opposed to using GTP, just havent yet.
i have a good solid source for UG gear, and a solid source for SYRUS and have been happy with both the products and the prices.
Bozwell said:
It's funny you should post that. I was talking to one of the people who formulates the AS for some of these UG brands and reminded me of a thread like this where people were arguing which was best. I think it was AOP vs Black Label. They are the same guy with two labels.
Another well known source commented that it's silly for these manufacturers to have their minions out posting about how much better they are than the competition as though they are going to get world domination over the UG AS market. None of these companies have the means to supply the entire demand and there is plenty to go around.
Retabolil2
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ajax_1 said:
Cant be true!
"GTP's business philosophy has been to provide customers with top quality gear at a fair price"
Jesus, I know nothing about BD business philosophy! But its cheaper, thats a fact!
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satchboogie
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Retabolil2 said:Cant be true!
"GTP's business philosophy has been to provide customers with top quality gear at a fair price"
Jesus, I know nothing about BD business philosophy! But its cheaper, thats a fact!
lol...
id have to check that out..
maybe so some 'readjustments'
I can not see how fakes can be used as a debate topic on how one product offering is better than another. Put it another context because cartier watches are often faked then does it mean i should only buy Rolex? Surely it means you just purchase from a reputable distributor?
Wrongun!
Wrongun!
Retabolil2
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Wrongun said:
I agree. Moreover if there are no GTP fakes out there it only means this gear is not popular and there is no reason to counterfeit that brand.
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satchboogie
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LVTitan said:
good point bro.
but i think 'somebody's' ego has been serveraly damaged lately..t
hus, the latest attack on GTP gear.
perhaps poor competition..
or just bad business on the 'BD' side..
not sure nor do i care..
either way, if it makes him feel better than straight from satch's mouth to feed his ego: BD is far better!!!
i hope that makes him happy...
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satchboogie
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Joe Stick said:
not sure if those figures are 'ridiculous'..
actually one is $100 lower than the other and can even flex to $150 lower!
all you gotta do is ask.
Joe Stick said:Gotta keep that in mind when its time to go shopping again
I have an idea, let's setup a forum where these arguments / discussions about who's stuff is better and why can go on there, then we can keep to our conversations on gear in it's proper forum. I enjoy boards where politics are left elsewhere.
Beachbum1546
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reading between the lines in these threads is so much fun.
Retabolil2
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Whiskey said:
price is not an issue. we discuss it qualitywise. For example Schering Testoviron or Altana Testex is 10 times better than any kind of UG test around but much more expensive. its not for young kids who try to get cheaper deal, its for those who really doesnt want to play scary games with their health.
But if its a choice between the two I`d say BD. And they have great variety of products too!
Joe Stick said:
I thought that at first, till I realized it just means one needs more commitment and planning ahead. Fewer, bigger orders=less exposure for everybody anyway.
Both have good deals on some things, less good deals on others. BD stuff I've tried so far has kicked ass, but I'll probably try the GTP because it can't hurt to have alternatives.
As for going for only going by what crap is the cheapest...I'll bet those are the sorta guys who would put Yugo rims on a BMW...
Retabolil2
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satchboogie said:good point bro.
but i think 'somebody's' ego has been serveraly damaged lately..t
hus, the latest attack on GTP gear.
perhaps poor competition..
or just bad business on the 'BD' side..
not sure nor do i care..
either way, if it makes him feel better than straight from satch's mouth to feed his ego: BD is far better!!!
i hope that makes him happy...
Satch, stop it. You definitely know what caused the attack and I still havent seen a thread with apologies you owe me for spreading rumours around the board. I dont give a shit about GTP or any other brand, its a big market so if you have started to talk "ego" talks then look at the mirror. Everyone knows I registered here long time ago but I dont do even 5% of what you do to promote GTP just because BD name speaks for itself. You`re a postwhore and post GTP threads without a break eveyday. Good gear doesnt require lots of advertisement.Now go post 1000posts about GTP Eq500 with some idiot lab results, maybe it will help GTP business in any way, I wish you luck boy.
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