bridging between cycles

[stanners]

Hi everyone

I have just started my first cycle and would like some advice on bridging between cycles

my problem is the time between my 2 planned cycles there is only 8 weeks this is due to the sport am into. So I have time for PCT but will be back on it when its finished.

My cycle
Week 1 to 10 250mg test c
Week 2 to 9 20mg whinn Wd
Week 3 to 11 250iu HCG twice weekly
Week 4 to 12 12.5mg aromasin EOD
Week 12 to 16 PCT 50mg clomid Ed & 20mg novla

Is there a possibility I could carry on the test but a a lower dose? Or just do the PCT

All advice greatly received.

 

[EZ_E]

That's not really cycling, time on = time off is the usual/standard protocol, if not more time off...

Staying on is a lifetime commitment and something I wouldn't recommend unless it's a last resort.

Can you post your stats?

 

[stanners]

Hi ez e

I am not planning on staying on full time my plan will be to stay off from the end of my 2nd cycle and untill March time next year.

stats

Male 36 years old
5.9
88 kg

I am not wanting to bulk just get lean gain more power and speed due to the sport am into

 

[EZ_E]

That's still not 2 cycles tho

 

[stanners]

That's still not 2 cycles tho

I see it would be just the on cycle. So just after some advice would i benefit from doing a PCT then start my 2nd cycle.

been honest now I have let myself runaway with it all an messed the timing. Thinking about it i should of done the one cycle for 12 weeks but timed it for the end of my season.

Advice will be greatly recieved

 

[Elvia1023]

So the cycle you have outlined is your 1st. You plan to do pct then pretty much start a 2nd cycle. You won't allow sufficient time for recovery so by the time you come off your 2nd cycle you will be fucked. Now if you just run one big cycle then come off you will be fucked doing it that way too. You need to allow sufficient time for recovery and not stay on too long especially for a 1st cycle. Are you competing in your sport now? What is your sport? Maybe you would be best just coming off then running your 1st cycle at the time you had planned for your 2nd cycle. How long have you been on? You should have asked these questions before starting.

 

[bigorse]

So the cycle you have outlined is your 1st. You plan to do pct then pretty much start a 2nd cycle. You won't allow sufficient time for recovery so by the time you come off your 2nd cycle you will be fucked. Now if you just run one big cycle then come off you will be fucked doing it that way too. You need to allow sufficient time for recovery and not stay on too long especially for a 1st cycle. Are you competing in your sport now? What is your sport? Maybe you would be best just coming off then running your 1st cycle at the time you had planned for your 2nd cycle. How long have you been on? You should have asked these questions before starting.

Do you think maybe he could run his fist cycle then run sarms after his cycle during pct to keep his performance up for his sport but still allow his hpta to recover?

What sport are you doing?

 

[bigorse]

Say
Test 1-12
Osta 13-18
Clomid 14-18 50 50 25 25
Nolva 14-18 40 40 20 20

Maybe some peptides, gw, s4 may be useful to depending on your sport

 

[stanners]

So the cycle you have outlined is your 1st. You plan to do pct then pretty much start a 2nd cycle. You won't allow sufficient time for recovery so by the time you come off your 2nd cycle you will be fucked. Now if you just run one big cycle then come off you will be fucked doing it that way too. You need to allow sufficient time for recovery and not stay on too long especially for a 1st cycle. Are you competing in your sport now? What is your sport? Maybe you would be best just coming off then running your 1st cycle at the time you had planned for your 2nd cycle. How long have you been on? You should have asked these questions before starting.

Hi there thanks for the reply.

Everything that you guys say is much appreciated.
I am only on my second week not started the winni yet. If I do stop Now do I need to do the PCT.

After all the information this is probably my way forward.

 

[stanners]

Thanks
Just to clear things up yes my sport has just stated and will run until mid September.
I race bikes

 

[stanners]

Say
Test 1-12
Osta 13-18
Clomid 14-18 50 50 25 25
Nolva 14-18 40 40 20 20

Maybe some peptides, gw, s4 may be useful to depending on your sport

So your saying just do the one cycle but while doing PCT at OSTA? is this a hgh

 

[bigorse]

Thanks
Just to clear things up yes my sport has just stated and will run until mid September.
I race bikes

endurance? if so gw501516 would defiantly benefit you

 

[stanners]

endurance? if so gw501516 would defiantly benefit you

No bmx 45 seconds of power and speed 5 min breaks up to 6 races

So looking at it another way I could carry in do the PCT but aid my gains with another substance?

What am concerned about Is loosing what I have gained. Like I have mentioned before am chasing power and speed and would Like to maintain as much of the gains through out my season. I would not be stopping any training probably train harder as o get to the back end of the season

 

[bigorse]

If you run sarms during pct you will be able to maintain alot of the perfromance gains made from the gear, probably not as good as when on steroids but a hell of alot better than regular pct. Seems as your going for power why not use something like masterone or something more androgenic.

1-12 test e
1-12 masteron e
13-18 ostarine
13-18 s4
14-18 nolvadex
14- 18 clomid
11-13 Hcg 500iu 2x a week
1-18 Aromasin 12.5 eod

 

[bigorse]

Seems as you have no orals in there you could possibly put winnie in from 9-13

 

[Elvia1023]

Ostarine suppresses you and will likely raise estrogen levels. This is most definitely the case at a dose that would be effective at helping maintain muscle gains from an aas cycle. You will not fully recover if using ostarine at any dose. Therefore I recommend a dose no higher than 10mg during pct but I would carry on your pct about 2 weeks after stopping ostarine. I don't really see this being the best system for this guy but sure he would get good results.

If you could have started again and you had to run 2 cycles I would have put you on ostarine as your 1st. You would have experienced suppression and rises in estrogen but recovery would have been easy. Plus it's effects on estrogen are one of the main reasons it is so good for your joints so that would have helped your performance. Then I would have put you on an aas cycle about 6 weeks later and things would have really come to life then.

Right now due to timing I honestly think you are best just coming off (no pct needed) and running your cycle later on. You could improve your cycle so we can go over that if you want so you get the most out of it. You could run a short ostarine cycle now but I leave that up to you. Many would just carryon but trust me recovery probably won't be good if you stay on a very long time. The key to running effective cycles is also in the recovery... you need to recover properly so you get the most out of everything. Too many jump back on not recovered and they wonder why they feel fucked a year later when they decide to come off properly for the first time.

 

[bigorse]

Ostarine suppresses you and will likely raise estrogen levels. This is most definitely the case at a dose that would be effective at helping maintain muscle gains from an aas cycle. You will not fully recover if using ostarine at any dose. Therefore I recommend a dose no higher than 10mg during pct but I would carry on your pct about 2 weeks after stopping ostarine. I don't really see this being the best system for this guy but sure he would get good results.

If you could have started again and you had to run 2 cycles I would have put you on ostarine as your 1st. You would have experienced suppression and rises in estrogen but recovery would have been easy. Plus it's effects on estrogen are one of the main reasons it is so good for your joints so that would have helped your performance. Then I would have put you on an aas cycle about 6 weeks later and things would have really come to life then.

Right now due to timing I honestly think you are best just coming off (no pct needed) and running your cycle later on. You could improve your cycle so we can go over that if you want so you get the most out of it. You could run a short ostarine cycle now but I leave that up to you. Many would just carryon but trust me recovery probably won't be good if you stay on a very long time. The key to running effective cycles is also in the recovery... you need to recover properly so you get the most out of everything. Too many jump back on not recovered and they wonder why they feel fucked a year later when they decide to come off properly for the first time.

Yes the cycle woulld be tough on hpta just trying to give an alternative for him if he needs to stay on for an extended period. I agree pct should be run longer tha the osta if you choose the cycle, my mistake. As far as compound selection masteron i believe would be better than winstrol not only purely for strength but also winstrol can dry out your joints which is obviously not desireable in your sport

 

[stanners]

Ostarine suppresses you and will likely raise estrogen levels. This is most definitely the case at a dose that would be effective at helping maintain muscle gains from an aas cycle. You will not fully recover if using ostarine at any dose. Therefore I recommend a dose no higher than 10mg during pct but I would carry on your pct about 2 weeks after stopping ostarine. I don't really see this being the best system for this guy but sure he would get good results.

If you could have started again and you had to run 2 cycles I would have put you on ostarine as your 1st. You would have experienced suppression and rises in estrogen but recovery would have been easy. Plus it's effects on estrogen are one of the main reasons it is so good for your joints so that would have helped your performance. Then I would have put you on an aas cycle about 6 weeks later and things would have really come to life then.

Right now due to timing I honestly think you are best just coming off (no pct needed) and running your cycle later on. You could improve your cycle so we can go over that if you want so you get the most out of it. You could run a short ostarine cycle now but I leave that up to you. Many would just carryon but trust me recovery probably won't be good if you stay on a very long time. The key to running effective cycles is also in the recovery... you need to recover properly so you get the most out of everything. Too many jump back on not recovered and they wonder why they feel fucked a year later when they decide to come off properly for the first time.

Thanks for the information. I am going to stop my cycle as from now.
I have notice my balls have shrug should I do a dose of HCG thinking 500iu.
Also I would appreciate any help form you guys in regards to starting my cycle.

 

[stanners]

Eliva 023 I would like to do a ostarine cycle before I restart my cycle could you probose the cycle for me I have

Test c will need another vail tho & 100 10mg of whinny
I already have Aromasin liv. 52 & hcg to run through my cycle
Nolvadex Tamoxifen & Clomid Clomiphene for PCT
but would like to know dosage.

I really appreciate all the information that ypu guys have given

THAKS

 

[Elvia1023]

Eliva 023 I would like to do a ostarine cycle before I restart my cycle could you probose the cycle for me I have

Test c will need another vail tho & 100 10mg of whinny
I already have Aromasin liv. 52 & hcg to run through my cycle
Nolvadex Tamoxifen & Clomid Clomiphene for PCT
but would like to know dosage.

I really appreciate all the information that ypu guys have given

THAKS

Firstly yes bigorse Mast would be great for him. Winny does effect the joints but it is also great for speed and the reason many sprinters have been caught using it.

Stanners if you want to do an ostarine cycle I would recommend starting at 15mg per day and moving up to 30mg over time. Not too sure about how many weeks you have so let me know and I can best advise you. 6 weeks ostarine would be good though. Perhaps something like 10/15/20/25/30/30 for dose.

I wouldn't bother with a pct right now as suppression will be minimal and using pct meds will likely delay recovery if they are used. However if they have really shrunk then a mini pct maybe useful. But you will be going on ostarine so another reason it wouldn't be needed. I would just do the ostarine then do a pct after that.

Is your test c 200mg/ml? If so something like...

Weeks 1-10= Test C at 400mg per week dosed 200mg Mon and Thurs
Week 6-10= Winny at 30-40mg per day (30mg would last 33 days)
Weeks 1-4= LGD-4044 at 5-15mg per day (taper up the dose)
Weeks 8-12= Ostarine (MK-2866) at the dose you like most
Week 1-15= Exemestane (aromasin) at 10-12.5mg per day (pick whatever is easiest due to tab/liquid dose)
Weeks 1-12= HCG at 500IU twice weekly (when running test dose it the night before so Sun and Wed)
Weeks 12-15 Clomid at 50/50/25
Weeks 12-16= Tamoxifen (nolva) at 20/20/20/10

By the way we have MK-2866 (Ostarine) and LGD-4033 on sale for the next 2 days at 45% off. The code is EL45 at checkout.

If you ever need any advice during your cycle just pm me.

 

[stanners]

Firstly yes bigorse Mast would be great for him. Winny does effect the joints but it is also great for speed and the reason many sprinters have been caught using it.

Stanners if you want to do an ostarine cycle I would recommend starting at 15mg per day and moving up to 30mg over time. Not too sure about how many weeks you have so let me know and I can best advise you. 6 weeks ostarine would be good though. Perhaps something like 10/15/20/25/30/30 for dose.

I wouldn't bother with a pct right now as suppression will be minimal and using pct meds will likely delay recovery if they are used. However if they have really shrunk then a mini pct maybe useful. But you will be going on ostarine so another reason it wouldn't be needed. I would just do the ostarine then do a pct after that.

Is your test c 200mg/ml? If so something like...

Weeks 1-10= Test C at 400mg per week dosed 200mg Mon and Thurs
Week 6-10= Winny at 30-40mg per day (30mg would last 33 days)
Weeks 1-4= LGD-4044 at 5-15mg per day (taper up the dose)
Weeks 8-12= Ostarine (MK-2866) at the dose you like most
Week 1-15= Exemestane (aromasin) at 10-12.5mg per day (pick whatever is easiest due to tab/liquid dose)
Weeks 1-12= HCG at 500IU twice weekly (when running test dose it the night before so Sun and Wed)
Weeks 12-15 Clomid at 50/50/25
Weeks 12-16= Tamoxifen (nolva) at 20/20/20/10

By the way we have MK-2866 (Ostarine) and LGD-4033 on sale for the next 2 days at 45% off. The code is EL45 at checkout.

If you ever need any advice during your cycle just pm me.

Thanks for all the info just wanting to clear a few things up.
So after ostarine cycleI still need to do a PCT, would this be for the recommended 4 weeks. Just Need to plan my timing. I would like to be peaking at my best for the end of august. So 23 week from now untill then what do you recommend and what would It look like.

almost forgot the test c is 250mg per 1 ml but that works out a .8ml to dose

Also will they supplySARMSto the uk I have a sourse in the uk for the ostarine but in 20mg tabs

 

[Elvia1023]

Thanks for all the info just wanting to clear a few things up.
So after ostarine cycleI still need to do a PCT, would this be for the recommended 4 weeks. Just Need to plan my timing. I would like to be peaking at my best for the end of august. So 23 week from now untill then what do you recommend and what would It look like.

almost forgot the test c is 250mg per 1 ml but that works out a .8ml to dose

Also will they supplySARMSto the uk I have a sourse in the uk for the ostarine but in 20mg tabs

Yes a mini pct just to help with any suppression and rises in estrogen. Then a break then start your cycle about 8 weeks before your peak date.

Matey I live in the UK so yes Superior ship there no problems. If you use us you will be shocked how fast it actually comes. We have a Euro site too so that so that may even be faster. The EL45 code works on that site too...

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[stanners]

Yes a mini pct just to help with any suppression and rises in estrogen. Then a break then start your cycle about 8 weeks before your peak date.

Matey I live in the UK so yes Superior ship there no problems. If you use us you will be shocked how fast it actually comes. We have a Euro site too so that so that may even be faster.

Cheers Elvia I was thinking of dropping the Ldg or at least dropping the dose. This is due to the cost, unless you have added it in for a specific reason.

I PM you a few days ago but dont know if I can Pm ppl with the account I have ?

I have been reading up on the mk677 I see you had a session on that as well what are you thought on using mk677. I was thinking of using after my cycle and PCT