bozwells 10 week sust and dbol cycle

[Bozwell]

well this is the plan
dbol weeks 1-6 @30mg ed
sust weeks 1-10@250mg ew
pct
weeks 11-13 500ius hcg eod with 20mg nolva ed
weeks 14-17 nolva 20mg ed with some herbal shit like trib ect
I started this cycle 9 days ago and have had to lower the dbol dosage to 20mged ..I was going mad at 30mg.. I have done sust before and dbol before but not together and had nothing like this!
dose any one else get mad on dbol and test?
I havent been kicking off or anything like that but my head has been done right in
I could feel the dbol kick in about half an hour after taking it (10mg 3 times per day) and could feel my self boil up and not be able to calm down, so Im now back to normal(ish) @20 mg ed 1 tab 4 times per day
up 7 lbs so far
streanth is going up.. doing and extra 4-5 reps on most lifts

 

[boskers22]

ne updates?

 

[nismo]

im about to start the same cycle.. im interested inyour progrees. I was thinking of doing 500mg of sust. ew.

 

[Bozwell]

UPDATE
Well three shots later Ive ditched the dbol alltogether and decied to run the sust @500mg ew for the rest of the cycle
so far Ive put on 9lbs I stoped the dbol and the scales havent moved since
I can feel the test now so they should be on the rise again soon
so far the only sides from the test have been night sweats ,getting unbelivebly horny and I feel good,but when I add the dbol this all changes not horny or feeling good just mad ,an hour after taking 10mg I can feel my self boil up I can hear the blood rushing through my head I cant think strait its like an insight into the mind of mad man,this lasts for 4-5 hours then starts to were off but as soon as I take the next dose BANG Im off again, Im calm person and this stuff send me nuts,great gains @30mg ed but even at 20mg ed I could'nt handle the mentle sides
Ive done a dbol only cycle 20mg ed for 5weeks good gains no sides
I done test only @250 before with good gains with no sides
but dbol and test drives me crackers
hows that work?

 

[mike869b7]

thanx for the post good info

 

[Bozwell]

week 4 I think
the test is well away now and the scales are going up daily around 3/4 lb a day no major diet change but eating more because the test makes me hungery
workouts are longer and more intense, recovery is instant (almost)
side effects are none existent since I stopped the dbol
havent tried any one rep maxs for a bit but I can do an extra 5 or so reps on all my big lifts
sust 1ml every tusday and friday
its all good

 

[Bozwell]

update
so far all is good apart from the bit water Ive got (abs arnt as clear,bit of a fat face )but nothing to severe the only down side form this cycle is when I shoot into my delt it fucking hurts like fuck for days my poor glutes are getting hammerd.
12lbs up so far and climbling and streanth is getting just silly before my cycle I could bench 135kg 1rm yesterday I did 5 reps ,will try 1RM towards the end of cycle

 

[axe3]

update
so far all is good apart from the bit water Ive got (abs arnt as clear,bit of a fat face )but nothing to severe the only down side form this cycle is when I shoot into my delt it fucking hurts like fuck for days my poor glutes are getting hammerd.
12lbs up so far and climbling and streanth is getting just silly before my cycle I could bench 135kg 1rm yesterday I did 5 reps ,will try 1RM towards the end of cycle

If you want to get rid of some of that bloat start running some l-dex (.5mg eod)

Sounds like the cycle is going well...keep training hard and eat well!

axe3 formerly known as axe and axe2

 

[boskers22]

keep up the good work

 

[Bozwell]

well it had to happen sooner or later I went to take my shot ..not due till tomorow but thought I up the dose a touch 1ml e3d for the rest of the cycle
1inch 23g pin in my right glute pulled back the plunger and fuck me did it fill up fast with blood ,a good ml or so ,this is the first time Ive ever hit a vien and it wasn't good I ended up shooting into my delt and now its starting to throb and swell up that fucker going to hurt in the morning anyway up 14lbs and needing a rest going to take a couple of days of as Iv been to the gym every day for the past week and training like a mad man hitting 2 big muscle groups ed plus abs and arms, had a shit work out today back and chest no more streanth and had to try harder to lift what I could last time
btw its starting to happen,people are asking what are you on? I say creatine

 

[Bozwell]

update
well all has been good so far, but the scales arnt moving any more and streanth is starting to level off so I thought it would be a good idea to try and get things on the move again ,with my usual shot e3d of sust I added an extra 750mg of test e over the last week and will add 500mg this week then go back to the e3d shot of sust for the rest of the cycle has any one ever done this before? Im just testing to see how I take to larger dose of test and hopefully set the gains away agian
so far the effects of this have been bad night sweats, mild headache(I think its blood pressure)huge increase in appitite
had 2 days off, going to the gym later today ,doing back and chest so we'll see if its done anything when I hit the dead lifts

 

[Bozwell]

well I wont be doing that again ,the extra test has given me nothing but greif ,my face looks like a big fucking pudding all fat and bloated my head has been pounding and Ive been sweating like I didnt know was possable
up an extra 6 lbs in a week but I think its mostly water so I wont be adding the extra 500mg this week... to much test for boz to handle,well 1250mg is a lot streanth hasnt gone up much ,propebly because Ive been feeling like shit
at first it was all good better mood ,eating more but as blood levels rose I felt worse so its back to 250mg e3d
man this cycles been fucked up
starting to feel a bit better as I only had 250mg this week

 

[axe3]

BOZ GET SOME L-DEX!!!!

It will do wonders for you. I cant stand being bloated and liquidex will take care of that. I have run test cycles with and without and there simply is no comparison to how much better i feel and look when i take it.

 

[Bozwell]

BOZ GET SOME L-DEX!!!!

It will do wonders for you. I cant stand being bloated and liquidex will take care of that. I have run test cycles with and without and there simply is no comparison to how much better i feel and look when i take it.

cheers
Ive never used l-dex but im going to use something like that from know on.. going to order some this week ,so you feel better when you use l-dex as well as look better?
no headaches or having a fat head?
btw how much do you reckon I should use?...0.5mg ed

 

[axe3]

cheers
Ive never used l-dex but im going to use something like that from know on.. going to order some this week ,so you feel better when you use l-dex as well as look better?
no headaches or having a fat head?
btw how much do you reckon I should use?...0.5mg ed

I both feel and look better when i take it. When I dont take it my abs fade away. When I take it I stay hard and lean. I personally would start ASAP at .5mg ed since you are feeling so bloated. Once you lose the bloat you could try backing it off to .5 eod.

good luck!!

 

[Bozwell]

Well last shot today (sniff,sob ) then pct in 10 days time
this cycle has been less than perfect but its been a good ride and Ive learned a lot to how I react (and bloat)of test and how me ,test and dbol dont mix well at all test alone good ,dbol alone good but mixed and sparks fly ,huge weight gain 9lbs in the first 2 week and rapid streanth but I was an unevoled beast when on it
Up 17 lbs but holing a good bit of water so I expect to keep 10lbs or so
Streanth gains have been quite impressive got 145kg up on flat bench(was 135kg)and got 135 for 5 reps
squats went up a good 20kg I know do 170kg for 5 repshavent treid 1rm
lat pull downs up from 50kg each side for 8 reps to 60 kg each side for 8 reps
deads up 30kg!! was 180kg or 6 reps now 220kg for 6 reps
good indreases all round but cant be chewed to list them all
well of into pct land I go ,time to plan my next cycle

 

[temetrepo]

Bozwell, maybe this is too much to ask but it would be of benefit if you can post info on your recovery much like you have while on your cycle. How you feel, strenght, size, etc. I you could.

Thanks this has been very informative.

 

[Bozwell]

Bozwell, maybe this is too much to ask but it would be of benefit if you can post info on your recovery much like you have while on your cycle. How you feel, strenght, size, etc. I you could.

Thanks this has been very informative.

No problem,

 

[temetrepo]

No problem,

Thanks bro.

 

[Bozwell]

big shout for HCG!!

well my balls were well shriveled by the end of week 10 but the first 500iu shot of hcg brought them back to lifeI had my shot then went to bed for a couple of hours(on night shift)when I got up and went to the bog there they were so I took another before starting work and by tyhe end of the shift they were back to normal ..long time no see fellas..
anyway hcg seems to have a strange calming effect on me I feel good (I like my own hormones)
streanth is the same ,up another 3 lbs mood is good and nolva makes me really hungery so Im packing in extra cals to hold on to my gains
going to start some creatine this week
so far so good I think this will be a gentle slide back to being almost human again

 

[DieselGunz]

Good to hear glad things are back to normal



Any pics?

 

[Bozwell]

Good to hear glad things are back to normal



Any pics?

cheers mate

will try and get some shots in

 

[temetrepo]

Bozwell, good to hear your PCT is going well. Thanks for all the info and keep us informed.....

Regards.

 

[thegoldenman]

good job

good info sure helped a lot, i will do exct same cycle except not sus Testosterone enanthate 250ml ew, 20g of dbols, for pct hcg and novaldex
however i may add something for water-ret, i just hate being blownup[],

 

[Bozwell]

Re: good job

good info sure helped a lot, i will do exct same cycle except not sus Testosterone enanthate 250ml ew, 20g of dbols, for pct hcg and novaldex
however i may add something for water-ret, i just hate being blownup[],

I would recomend some thing to keep the water off ,if I had £1 for every one who said Ive got a fat face I have enough for my next cycle
I got bloated to bits,I told people I was eating to much creatine
I did dbol alone @20mg ed for 5 weeks with nolva for pct I kept 12lbs!! and had better than test steanth gains, not much water
I did sust 250 for 8 weeks and got myself another 12lbs and good streanth
at 250mg I did not hold any water(visable)
but 500mg ew I was like the titanic and when I put that extra 750mg of test(dont do that bit) I blew up itwas unbearable(sp?)I felt like shit ,bad head ,tired ,no energy I blame the blood pressure caued by the vast amount of water I was holding this was the only down point to the cycle
test and dbol will make you crazy strong ,good luck

 

[Bozwell]

Well pct is going fine ,been feeling a bit tierd ,no deppresion or anything like that but not a lot of energy,mood is good been feeling really calm and chilled and can feel my self getting closer to normal every day
streanth is the almost the same,I can lift the same weights but they feel heavyer and I have to try harder ,sex drive dropped of for a couple of days but is about back to normal,should have used some extra hcg for the first couple of shots
weight has not changed but the water is leaving and I can see the old shape of my face coming back(no more fat head)

 

[Bozwell]

Quick up dateb/c Im board
did chest yesterday and fuck its sore today it has'nt felt like this for a while,
I can put my old 1rm up on the bench 3 times myself easy another 1 with a struglge and one more with a bit help ,but work outs arn't as intense or as long
weight has'nt changed which seem odd because Im losing water all the time
mood is improving daly and energy levels are coming back
another 4 weeks to go

 

[Gaffa]

Good log m8,i wish u all the best.

 

[thegoldenman]

hey great review man! if you clear one thing for me plz, did you take HCG with nolva ,or, did you take nolva after 3 weeks of HCG n then through nolva for another 3 to 4 weeks? thanks

“Not many people understand what a pump is. It must be experienced to be understood. It is the greatest feeling that I get. I search for this pump because it means that that my muscles will grow when I get it. I get a pump when the blood is running into my muscles. They become really tight with blood. Like the skin is going to explode any minute. It’s like someone putting air in my muscles. It blows up. It feels fantastic.” Arnold Schwarzenegger

i just love this quote!

 

[Bozwell]

hey great review man! if you clear one thing for me plz, did you take HCG with nolva ,or, did you take nolva after 3 weeks of HCG n then through nolva for another 3 to 4 weeks? thanks

“Not many people understand what a pump is. It must be experienced to be understood. It is the greatest feeling that I get. I search for this pump because it means that that my muscles will grow when I get it. I get a pump when the blood is running into my muscles. They become really tight with blood. Like the skin is going to explode any minute. It’s like someone putting air in my muscles. It blows up. It feels fantastic.” Arnold Schwarzenegger

i just love this quote!

hcg with nolva for 3 weeks then 3 weeks of just nolva
sounds like arnold was on dbol when he said that about the pump

 

[Bozwell]

sprung a leak!!

well over the week end Ive lost 5 lbs
between friday morning a saterday night I must of pissed 50 times ,I couldent do 3 sets in the gym without needing a piss it was doing my head in
its stopped now wich is good
mood is good, streanth is good ,sex drive is good and energy levels are back to normal(or there about) so Id say Ive just about recoverd

 

[thegoldenman]

hcg with nolva for 3 weeks then 3 weeks of just nolva
sounds like arnold was on dbol when he said that about the pump

Thanks,
"sounds like arnold was on dbol when he said that about the pump" i am sure he was, lol

 

[Bozwell]

Well doing nolva only now and all is well only lost 6lbs altogether
workouts arnt as good as they should be but thats to be expected,the creatine should help, streanth is the same and I look quite lean approx 7-10% bf @197lbs
thinking about going into another test cycle in a weeks time with hcg throughout and 1000ius eod instead of 500ius for pct then stop off till summer
my mood has been a bit fucked up but thats mainly due to a split with my girlfriend fucking womenand thats why I want to do another cycle to sort my head out

 

[temetrepo]

boswel,
good info sorry about the gf thing. Get your shit together and go at it again. You had great gains. What would you do next?

 

[Bozwell]

boswel,
good info sorry about the gf thing. Get your shit together and go at it again. You had great gains. What would you do next?

Cheers mate
yeah Im going to sort my head out do pct and then go onto a test and var cycle ,be around xmas
something like
weeks 1 test e @ 750mg
weeks 2-8 test e @ 500mg
weeks 1-10 var @ 60mg ed (or as much as I can afford )
with aromasin @ 20mg ed and proviron @50mg ed weeks 1-10
and maybe tren ace or NPP weeks 1-4
pct same as this time but if I use tren or npp Ill use more hcg in pct ,750ius-1000ius eod instead of the 500ius I used this time

 

[temetrepo]

Great man. I just completed my (read my experiment). Going to take some time off and hit it again on a larger scale.

cheers.

 

[Bozwell]

Man I feel so much better today than what I did when I made my last post,fuck me I felt rock bottom ,I must have crashed for a few days and with the girlfriend thing it was torture! but now all is well I feel great and would say Ive recoverd 99.9%% but will continue the nolva for another week ,results-13lbs up ,lost some fat , good streanth increas's and a lesson in bloat no gyno, no acne just lots and lots of water(and lots of pissing during pct)
thanks to all those who have been along for the ride
job done!! untill nextime thats all folks

 

[temetrepo]

Oustanding bro!!

 

[mrblander]

you need more test