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boldione or 1-ad

supermanstanley

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Hey guys, Just wanted to know if anybody has any good experince off boldione. I have took 1-ad before and gained about 6 pounds in to months. But im looking at boldione now what do you guys think?

superman
 
boldione looks very promising but i have yet to hear anyones experience with it.i personally lost a lot of weight from 1-ad, all in my wallet.
 
boldione

Knowbody in here has taking boldione? And if so what was your results? And im talking about molecular nutritions product. Somebody ask the same question on jeff summers board and the post was quikly erased. I wonder why?? But I think we all know.



superman
 
Boldione (1,4-androstadiene-3,17-dione) is the lead innovation to arise out of the next generation of orally active prohormones. It is a direct precursor to the anabolic steroid boldenone, and displays a level of oral bioavailability far superior to any other compound, including the new 1-androstenes. If you are unfamiliar with boldenone, it is an anabolic steroid most often found in injectable form as a veterinary medication (boldenone undecylenate). It is chemically a derivative of testosterone, characterized as a strong anabolic and low to moderately androgenic agent. As its name indicates, Boldione is simply the “dione” form of boldenone, activated in the body by the same widely distributed 17beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme that converts androstenedione to testosterone. The chemical structures of both are:



Boldione (1,4-androstadiene-3,17-dione) Boldenone (1,4-androstadiene-3-one,17b-ol)

Boldione is truly the most advanced and potent anabolic prohormone ever developed, exhibiting several undeniable advantages over competing products:

The Most “Orally Active” Prohormone

Boldione is unquestionably the most orally active prohormone ever developed. As you probably know, poor oral bioavailability is one of the most fundamental problems with prohormones. The liver processes natural steroid hormones so efficiently, that when taken orally little will make its way all the way through to the blood stream in active from. All but a small percentage of the steroid will typically be found as an inactive 17-keto steroid. Here the 17 beta-hydroxyl group, vital to androgen binding, is removed and the compound rendered inactive. To solve this problem with pharmaceutical agents, chemists have synthetically altered most oral steroids with some form of 17-alpha alkylation (typically a methyl or ethyl addition), which virtually inhibits 17-ketosteroid reduction by occupying a carbon bond necessary for this reaction. But this type of alteration is also toxic to the liver, synthetic, and clearly not possible to use with natural prohormones.

The structure of Boldione however is intrinsically resistant to 17-ketosteroid deactivation during this first pass through the liver. The combination of its delta 1 and delta 4 double bond (1,4-Di Ene) shifts the hepatic metabolism (the 17-keto redox potential) of this compound far in favor of activation. This is made clear by studies showing Boldione to produce by far the most profound excretion of active 17beta-hydroxysteroids we have seen of any prohormone, as much as 50% of recovered urinary metabolites [1] . Surprisingly the 17beta-hydroxyl group survives hepatic metabolism to an enormous degree. Although this is not the near 100% recovery you would expect with a synthetic agent, it is amazingly superior (by far) to every other prohormone ever developed including the 1-androstene’s [2] .

…by far the most profound excretion of active 17beta-hydroxysteroids of any prohormone, as much as 50% of recovered urinary metabolites…

Figure 1 compares the 17-beta hydroxysteroid recovery of 4-androstenedione, the new 1-androstenedione, and Boldione (1,4-androstadienedione). As you can see, the delta 1 bond alone increases active metabolite recovery considerably. However when we add the additional delta 4 bond, the recovery is far more dramatic.



Figure 1. Average percentage of 17beta-hydroxysteroid metabolites recovered from human urine after 4-Androstenedione injection (J. Biol Chem 239(1964) 1578-84), 100mg oral 1-androstenedione (J Steroid Biochem 3 (1972) 933-6) and 100mg oral 1,4-androstadienedione (Steroids 18 (1971) 39-50).

Favorable Aromatization

Boldione converts to estrogen at roughly half the rate of androstenedione and testosterone [3] . This significantly reduces the level of estrogen buildup during use compared to that achieved with testosterone precursors, and similarly also lowers the chance of noticing strong estrogen related side effects such as increased body fat, gynecomastia and definition hiding water retention. It is no coincidence that the best bulking agents are estrogenic though, as this hormone does offer more than just side effects. Aside from the basic size increase we would attribute to fluid retention, estrogen also aids the muscle building process by enhancing glucose utilization for tissue growth and repair [4] [5] , increasing growth hormone secretion [6] and perhaps even by increasing androgen receptor concentrations [7] . It is clear today that estrogen serves a positive function in muscle growth, finally allowing us to explain a well known anecdotal fact: Aromatizable steroids are always the strongest muscle-builders, and preferred over non-aromatizable steroids when mass is desired. Boldione coverts to estrogen at a high enough rate to support excellent muscle gains, yet is typically mild enough to promote quality, defined growth without unwanted side effects. The long and fond relationship bodybuilders have had with boldenone is a clear testament to this fact.

… estrogen also aids the muscle building process by enhancing glucose utilization for tissue growth and repair, increasing growth hormone secretion and perhaps even by increasing androgen receptor concentrations…

Reduced Androgenic Activity

Boldenone is classified as an anabolic steroid, exhibiting much less androgenic activity than its analogue testosterone. This is because unlike testosterone, boldenone is a poor substrate for the 5-alpha reductase enzyme [8] . This is the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to the more potent steroid dihydrotestosterone in many androgen responsive tissues such as the skin, scalp, prostate and central nervous system. Consequently the local potency of testosterone is increased significantly in these tissues, often allowing it to trigger unwanted side effects such as oily skin, acne, body/facial hair growth and male pattern hair loss (for those with a genetic predisposition). But boldenone tends to interact with the 5-beta reductase enzyme instead, which reduces this steroid into a very weak binder of the androgen receptor instead of potentiating its activity. Consequently boldenone is much milder in terms of androgenic side effects compared to testosterone, being much more similar to nandrolone in this regard.

A Naturally Occurring Hormone


In order for any prohormone to be classified as a nutritional supplement, the compound in question must be “naturally occurring”. This means that we must isolate a clear source for it in nature, without human synthesis. Thankfully 1,4-androstadienedione was shown unquestionably to be a natural androgen in cows. The first study to isolate this compound was conducted back in 1956, where scientists believed that it was most likely produced from progesterone in the animal’s gastrointestinal tract [9] . Later studies show the production of this hormone in cow ovarian tissues however [10] , suggesting another location and method of endogenous production. We can also look toward studies in the agricultural industry, where the natural occurrence of 1,4-dienones [11] have caused some difficulty and debate over the screening processes used for detecting the illegal use of boldenone in cattle. Many have suggested threshold limits to prevent false positives due to the low level of 1,4-diene androgens that may be present naturally in these animals.
 
Well, I guess I will order some and try it out. Molecular nutrition has more milligrams then impacts equi-bolan. I read were one guy said he gained 10 pounds in two months. But then again it could be false claims. And molecular nutritions Boldione is alot cheaper.

superman
 
Just got my boldione in today from molecular nutrition Iwill start taking it to see if its better then 1-ad. ill probably take about 6 a day I will keep everybody posted.

superman
 
https://www2.acadia.net/cgi-bin/BAC...d=1948242_11342


Here you can get 200/100mg caps for the same price and 60/100mg caps,, you just have to dump the powder in a "000" size capsule,,, Takes ohh let say about 20 seconds,, I cant figure out why people have a problem making there own caps.. The tubs have a little scooper that is 100mg's you simply dump the powder into "000" size capsule which is very large and easy to do.. I guess the people that spend all the money on the pre capsuled stuff, must have a lot of money to burn or they are just very lazy..... 60 tabs or 200tabs you do the math...
 
No problem,, it was posted on my tread 1,4.. Keep us posted.. I have to re-up my credit card before I can get some.....

Peace
 
Wow, that place has really cheap prices! Wonder what the quality is? Their 5AA is cheaper than Kilo's? Too good to be true?
 
Please keep us informed as to your progress, bro. I've tried 1-AD, which I liked the results I obtained from, Boldione and Mag-10. Out of those three, I now feel that I liked Mag-10 the most. I'm definitely not a Biotest butt-kisser either. I've also had straight 4-AD (Ergopharms Select) and that (to me) didn't compare to Mag-10. I'm wondering if that means it's that 1-test (in Mag-10 but not the others), is what's so effective. Next I'm going to try par Deus' One or One+, although I'm a bit concerened about the "tired" reports from it. But although expensive, for my money Mag-10 is the best PH out there (right now anyway). hth
 
40butpumpin said:
Next I'm going to try par Deus' One or One+, although I'm a bit concerened about the "tired" reports from it. But although expensive, for my money Mag-10 is the best PH out there (right now anyway). hth


"Tired" reports are with ONE, only -- and there really have only been a couple. It is due to a lack of estrogen. 4-AD (in Mag-10 or ONE+) remedies this.
 
I am doing some 1-test and have not experienced and tiredness... Actually I have been feeling pretty good, guess it effects people in different way...
 
Correction to the above post, 1-test should be sold as a nighttime sleeping remedy... My ass is dragging today for no apperant reason? Guess it is starting to kick in or something, first the low sex drive and now this,,, I cant go on anymore life will never be the same again,,, I am going to have to end it all and get some 4ad.........

peace
 
Okay bros, Update day three into boldione at 6 a day spread out through the day, and my appetite has increased and I
did get a skin tight pump today but it is kind of early will have to see.

superman
 
update on boldione

Hey guys, Just wanted to give you an update on the boldoine. First of all im getting decent pumps but, I have been taking 6 to 7 a day and thats 100mgs each and been taking it for 7 days. Well so far Ido not think this stuff has lived up to what they say it is it doesnt impress me at all. all Ihave to say if I was on the 1-ad taking that many milligrams a day I would have gained weight and strength. 1-ad is still superior!!!

superman
 
Had a feeling the 1AD was superior... but now we actually have a 1,4andro user to back that up. BTW i did buy 2 bottles of it and thought about throwing it in my next cycle but debating if i should take it while bulking or cutting. If it increases appetite I may be confined to taking it w/ some Adipokinetics to help kill my appetite if i use it to cut. We'll see...

keep us posted bro..
 
Hey bros, Today my muscles are feeling much fuller and real tight . Its almost seems now Im keeping my pumps much longer it was like I felt much better when I woke up this morning and just maybe this stuff is kicking in now. Also I was much stronger today and weighed myself and gained 2 pounds, We will see what happens next week!!

superman
 
Hey riskybizz, Yes I did gain two pounds in one week. Well today was arm day and I had a pump that you wouldnt believe and I was super strong. The good thing is I have another bottle and Im going to keep taking it to see were I end up. Just think if I throw some 1-ad with it man!! Ill keep you posted


superman
 
Thanks soooo much for the reports supermanstanley! It's really great to hear first hand on a new product. I hear this boldione and 1-AD is sposed to be a great stack... makes sense. Do keep postin your progress man!
 
I know he is adding that 1-AD to it, his wife bought it from me today. Good luck stan, keep us/me posted. I'm not pushing this boldione on people till I hear some more on it (keeping some bottles for myself though :) :) )
 
Thanks 1fast 400, Ill let you know what happens. I do know with your good prices on supplements I can afford to do this. Anyway guys 1fast 400 ownes a supplement store and is pretty knowledgeable on most anything and he gets a lot of feed back, so please take advantage of him and ask him questions you may have on supplements.

superman:)
 
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