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BluRay pretty much wraps up the format war

Razorguns said:
Have DVDs become obsolete?

Quick answer: Storage. I can grab that DVD and take it w/me anywhere, not a 3 Terrabyte external HD.

There was a day when people predicted video games would all be downloaded onto consoles. Never happened.

r

DVDs wont. It will serve as a good storage option. But keep in mind I can take a USB key anywhere with the same storage capacity.
 
hawaiianflash said:
Rumor is that they paid Fox $200 million and Warner $400 million to go blu-ray. I wouldn't doubt it.

-flash

It was financial $.

Sales of DVDs were dropping. People were starting to figure out "Shit, if i pay $20 now, in 1 year, i'm gonna have to buy it again in HD!".

Plus movies/tv shows are all taped in HD. And they keep having to downconvert back to SD just to ship to stores. Plus exciting extra footage they shoot, has to be cut out for the SD version. No space.

The quicker they hasten the HD conversion - the faster the boom to start buying up Blu Ray DVDs will begin. Lowering prices for all, and INCREASING profits.

I'm shooting a film this summer: HDV, 720p, 16:9, 1.87:1 ratio. But when it comes to rendering, I have to DOWNCONVERT to SD 720x480. How annoying. Makes me wanna cry. Gotta burn all these SD versions, cuz i know 99% of my market only has DVD players. And when HD is commonplace - I gotta burn BRay versions, and now my SD DVDs becomes an unsellable expense I have to just 'eat'.

Many filmmakers I know are shooting films, and delaying release as long as possible - just so when they release on video - they only have to release Blu Ray versions. Not some ugly SD version. The guy who made Transformers is pissed. The studio forced him to release it on HD, when for months, he was bitching at them that BR was the future. They never listened.

r
 
redsamurai said:
no I hadn't bought either one, but it's still god damn bullshit!! I hate fucking sony. Sony's CEO must have pulled some serious strings, or gone around offering his mouth to anyone who would sign over to blu ray. I mean fuck, there's a reason the ps3 was and continues to be expensive.........it's the blue ray player. How much more capacity do we need? Unless movie companies start making 4-5 hour long movies, who cares about extra capacity? The picture quality is identical........so where is the upside to blu ray? I can understand for games it may become viable, but for movies??


Uncompressed 24 bit sound in 7.1 takes up a dvd's worth of space alone for the length of a typical movie.
 
Razorguns said:
microsoft, gets owned.

1,000,000 people were impatient and now have great dvd players for johnny's room.

now finally the industry can move forward and come out with some great hd products.

r


Microsoft won't be affected that much by it. They'll just adapt. Its biggest loss will be the detachable HD drive for the Xbox 360, which will likely just be replaced with a BluRay version. That's if they don't just skip it and starting making the Xbox 720 instead.
Besides, it looks like they have their hands full with Yahoo! now.
 
Razorguns said:
It was financial $.

Sales of DVDs were dropping. People were starting to figure out "Shit, if i pay $20 now, in 1 year, i'm gonna have to buy it again in HD!".

Plus movies/tv shows are all taped in HD. And they keep having to downconvert back to SD just to ship to stores. Plus exciting extra footage they shoot, has to be cut out for the SD version. No space.

The quicker they hasten the HD conversion - the faster the boom to start buying up Blu Ray DVDs will begin. Lowering prices for all, and INCREASING profits.

I'm shooting a film this summer: HDV, 720p, 16:9, 1.87:1 ratio. But when it comes to rendering, I have to DOWNCONVERT to SD 720x480. How annoying. Makes me wanna cry. Gotta burn all these SD versions, cuz i know 99% of my market only has DVD players. And when HD is commonplace - I gotta burn BRay versions, and now my SD DVDs becomes an unsellable expense I have to just 'eat'.

Many filmmakers I know are shooting films, and delaying release as long as possible - just so when they release on video - they only have to release Blu Ray versions. Not some ugly SD version. The guy who made Transformers is pissed. The studio forced him to release it on HD, when for months, he was bitching at them that BR was the future. They never listened.

r


Isn't that the most frustrating thing in the world, when people don't believe you? I bet he would love to piss all over their faces right about now.
 
What happended to hd dvd is microsoft and bill gates!!! if microsoft added the hd dvd player in the xbox 360 as sony did by adding the blueray player in the ps3.. But instead microsoft a year after the 360 came out decieded to sell it as a sepreate drive for whatever it was 200 or 300 bucks .. Which was so fucking dumb... I think hd dvd could of won if microsoft built the 360 with support to play hd dvd right from the get go. if they did they would of had a year worth of sales on hd dvd movies over the ps3.. Which the ps3 is what really ended the war anyway.. Stupid fucking greedy bill gates... Thats what you get you fuckers
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Microsoft won't be affected that much by it. They'll just adapt. Its biggest loss will be the detachable HD drive for the Xbox 360, which will likely just be replaced with a BluRay version. That's if they don't just skip it and starting making the Xbox 720 instead.
Besides, it looks like they have their hands full with Yahoo! now.

Check out Michael's rant on this.

http://www.shootfortheedit.com/forum/showthread.php?t=595#top

r
 
well might as well get my trifedta of current game systems and get a ps3. luckily i never bought any hd-dvd shit for my 360 or anything for the matter.
 
yeah but blu-ray is CLEARLY superior to HD in terms of everything. This was a no brainer to video geeks.

Just read the porn industry is scrambling, with every producer trying to be the first to get BR content out to the masses. Actresses are going to be busy reshooting films. :)

r
 
Razorguns said:
yeah but blu-ray is CLEARLY superior to HD in terms of everything. This was a no brainer to video geeks.

Just read the porn industry is scrambling, with every producer trying to be the first to get BR content out to the masses. Actresses are going to be busy reshooting films. :)

r

Blu-ray is much harder to code, more expensive, and offers no visual performance difference. Warner really wanted to back HD DVD, but Sony gave them $400 million reasons not to. I repeat, this was not a decision based on the superiority of the Blu-ray format. It was a decision based on back room deals. I'll be suprised if the entire Blu-ray category is greater than $2 billion this year. BD has a long way to go.
 
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