blood pressure

[martin_paes]

guys i know that ones BLOOD PRESSURE increases when O Taking AAS.
PLZ help me in my questions ,it will be very kid of u all .(my pressure was 130/82 on saturday morning /evening today 140/92.
1)what are the last digits that i can touch when on test ENTh.?
2)should o discountine if i read the dead line?(i think its 160/100)
3)does pressure vary in the morning and evenings?.

hope all will give me the best advice.....
thank u

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

#1 the second number is the one to watch out for. Ideal is 80 or lower. 90-95 is to be expected on AAS and over 100 is getting up there where I'd be concerned. But, take it more than once before you freak out. many things can elevate it, momentary stress, if you just participated in intense excercise, etc. I'll tell you this. I have a great primary care doctor and when I finally told him I was taking AAS it was a relief. I now had someone that knew there shit to express any concerns to and he was surprisingly open minded. He asked where I was getting it, how I was taking it (doses, duration) and did some blood work. Now he is not the type that's going to prescribe 4 IU's of GH per day and 400mg of Deca per week for me but it's great to have an open line of communication with your doc. If you tell yours and he lectures you or looks down on how you choose to live your life get another doc. In short, tell your Dr what you're doing and monitor that BP

 

[martin_paes]

thats a relief,blue---67.
wanting some more guys to share their thoughts

 

[DMI]

I was under the impression that the 'second number being the most important theory' was old thinking and that this has proven to be wrong. That's what my doctor told me at least, and other doctors i have spoken to.

guys i know that ones BLOOD PRESSURE increases when O Taking AAS.
PLZ help me in my questions ,it will be very kid of u all .(my pressure was 130/82 on saturday morning /evening today 140/92.
1)what are the last digits that i can touch when on test ENTh.?
2)should o discountine if i read the dead line?(i think its 160/100)
3)does pressure vary in the morning and evenings?.

hope all will give me the best advice.....
thank u

 

[ArrogantFungus]

I was under the impression that the 'second number being the most important theory' was old thinking and that this has proven to be wrong. That's what my doctor told me at least, and other doctors i have spoken to.

yes more recent studies show systolic pressure more relevant to cardiac events. In other words a sustained high systolic(upper) blood pressure that will not respond to meds is more dangerous since more heart attacks/strokes occur in this group.

 

[slowpain]

my BP went up too on test enanthate 500mg/week, it is the estrogen conversion that is making you hold so much water. Get your estrogen/estrodial levels checked and they will probably be high. I am on a test prop/winny cycle and my BP went down sense I started my cycle believe it or not. You might want to take some anastrozole or examastane to stop the conversion of test to estrogen, that should get rid of the extra water you are holding and lower BP.

 

[martin_paes]

slow pain ...
im taking proviron should i stop that ,and today morning my bp was 110/84 (at another docs meter)

 

[suburbanhub]

my BP went up too on test enanthate 500mg/week, it is the estrogen conversion that is making you hold so much water. Get your estrogen/estrodial levels checked and they will probably be high. I am on a test prop/winny cycle and my BP went down sense I started my cycle believe it or not. You might want to take some anastrozole or examastane to stop the conversion of test to estrogen, that should get rid of the extra water you are holding and lower BP.

I have the same symptoms here, high blood pressure. Would taking Nolva work at reducing the estrogen levels/water retension, and therefore helping bloodpressure? thanks!

 

[dr0832]

How does 136/68 measure up? This was after having a dunkin donoughnuts medium coffee)

 

[martin_paes]

im taking proviron should i stop that ,and today morning my bp was 110/84 (at another docs meter)

 

[hammertime30]

im taking proviron should i stop that ,and today morning my bp was 110/84 (at another docs meter)

While taking test, dbol or anything that aromatize, supplement taurine at 500mg to 1000mg daily with your mutivitamins. This will help control blood pressure.

 

[slowpain]

110/84 man thats low to me, mine right now is 130/85. I think your BP is fine, and proviron acts somewhat as an AI and helps lower water retention so your probably fine with that. Its hard to bloat while on proviron.

No nolva dos'nt realy help with water retention, it may alittle bit but it realy only blocks estrogen at certain sites in the body and keeps it from binding there. For bloat the best things are aromatase inhibitors like: aromasin, arimidex, and femara.

 

[Bonkme2]

Is the oppositer true?
If my BP is elevated above normal while I'm on AAS, then it may be reasonable to assume that's it being caused from excess water retention, especially when on something like a TEST/DBOL stack.

But what if my BP hasn't moved a lick? (Very consistently approx 120/80) Can one reasonably assume that they are NOT retaining much water?

 

[slowpain]

I think any time you retain water, wether it be from estrogen or sodium, your BP will rise. I found I can keep mine lower and in the safe zone by cutting out most of the sodium in my diet, sodium causes water retention, so yes if BP dosn't move while on cycle I think its safe to say you probably have a good diet or you don't have too much estrogen. Most people just can't stand the taste of bland food missing salt, but its just one of those things you have to train yourself to get use to. Especially if on a cycle, at least for that short amount of time tell yourself to keep your diet in check, low sodium, that is for people who have BP issues.

 

[hammertime30]

I think any time you retain water, wether it be from estrogen or sodium, your BP will rise. I found I can keep mine lower and in the safe zone by cutting out most of the sodium in my diet, sodium causes water retention, so yes if BP dosn't move while on cycle I think its safe to say you probably have a good diet or you don't have too much estrogen. Most people just can't stand the taste of bland food missing salt, but its just one of those things you have to train yourself to get use to. Especially if on a cycle, at least for that short amount of time tell yourself to keep your diet in check, low sodium, that is for people who have BP issues.

I have no BP issue, yet dbol still made my BP increase quite a bit, but I also had increase my peanut intake which happened to be salted. So yes you are right on track with retaining water and increased BP!