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Bill O'Reilly lies 3 times in one week

Lao Tzu

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In the interest of fairness, media matters is a liberal organization. But their facts seem straight.

Lie no. 1.

O'REILLY: I never attacked Cindy Sheehan personally

http://mediamatters.org/items/200606140004

Claiming that Sheehan was "dumb enough to allow" herself to be "run by far-left elements who are using her."

Claiming that Sheehan "has thrown in with the most radical elements in this country" and "other American families who have lost sons and daughters in Iraq ... feel that this kind of behavior borders on treasonous."

Including Sheehan on a list of "coward."

Lie no. 2.

O'Reilly: I don't make personal attacks

Referring to media writer and Fox News Watch panelist Neal Gabler as a "rabid dog" and calling him a "bomb-thrower" and a "left-wing Kool-Aid drinker." O'Reilly also stated: "If a teacher ever went in there [to a classroom] and said, 'Adam and Eve is real,' Neal Gabler would have a noose around his [the teacher's] neck."

Comparing liberal radio host and author Al Franken and "assassins" on the "Internet" and "cable television" to a New York City radio disc jockey who threatened "to do an R. Kelly" on the four-year-old daughter of a rival station's announcer.

Stating of Jeremy Glick, an O'Reilly factor guest whose father was killed in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and who opposed the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan: "If I could have whacked him, I would have."

Calling liberal radio network Air America "[d]isgusting" and "despicable."

Stating that if he were President Bush, he "would have laid ... out" veteran White House journalist Helen Thomas after she pressed President Bush on his reasons for invading Iraq.

Calling former Public Broadcasting Service host Bill Moyers a "totalitarian" and a "secular, far-left fanatic."

Calling students at the University of Connecticut who heckled Coulter during a campus appearance "far-left Nazis."

Calling Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) a "left-wing nut."

Stating of New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, "How nuts is this guy?"

Stating that O'Reilly Factor guest Christopher Murray "sounds like a fascist"
for saying that that public institutions should not display religious symbols.

Calling former Green Party presidential candidate Ralph Nader a "loon."

Describing former president Jimmy Carter as "clueless" and "a fool."

Saying of Sen. John Kerry (D-MA), "He's a sissy."

Calling Dallas Morning News columnist Macarena Hernandez "incompetent" and a "Latina ideologue."

Telling Rev. Barry Lynn, executive director of Americans United for Separation of Church and State, "You know I love you as a guest. You're one of the best. You're a paranoid crazy."

Calling Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) a "nut" for introducing legislation to equip commercial aircraft with anti-missile systems to repel attacks from surface-to-air missiles; on his TV program. (O'Reilly later falsely denied that he'd made the remark, and subsequently claimed he "forgot" he had done so.)

Lie no.3

Franken Lies, Coulter doesn't.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200606090014

She falsely accused former President Bill Clinton of being a "very good rapist."

She falsely claimed Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) refused to release his military records and tax forms during his 2004 presidential campaign, when, in fact, both were posted on his website.

She falsely claimed that former President Clinton's private secretary was the highest-placed African-American in the Clinton administration.

She falsely accused The New York Times of "out[ing]" gay children of prominent conservatives.

She falsely claimed the Arizona Daily Star dropped her syndicated column to "keep[] conservatives out."

She erroneously claimed that liberal financier George Soros "said the reason for anti-Semitism is the Jews."

She falsely accused University of Chicago professor Steven D. Levitt and Stanford University professor John J. Donohue III -- whom she identified as "liberals" -- of "defending Roe v. Wade."

She falsely asserted that Elizabeth Edwards -- whom she identified as the "white wife of vice presidential candidate John Edwards" -- "warned of riots unless John Kerry is elected."


This is neglecting his Malmedy myth.

O'Reilly was labeled the most misleading conservative commentator in 2004 by media matters.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200412230006

Three lies in one week is going to help him make that title again in 2006. Keep it up Bill.
 
I guess I don't like the guy. He is too certain he is right about everything, and he always claims to be an independent. And supposedly the head of media matters has tried to get on the O'Reilly factor but Bill won't let him on even though Bill constantly calls people cowards who won't go on his show. They claimed at least 75 myths, distortions or misleading facts in 2004 on his show. He has made at least 5 this week alone (those 3, malmady and the 9th circuit).
 
I just finished his book "Who's Looking Out for You?". Not a bad read at all.

Hannity is a tool.........attack that asshole and I'm on board.
 
Seems like this website misleads and lies as well

Two examples

1)She falsely accused former President Bill Clinton of being a "very good rapist."

2)She falsely claimed Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) refused to release his military records and tax forms during his 2004 presidential campaign, when, in fact, both were posted on his website.

Bill Clinton has been accused of rape by several women. He was also forced to pay substantial damages in a sexual harassment suit. Coulter was transparently being sarcastic to draw attention to the history and not claiming he was convicted of rape.

She was correct. Kerry never posted his compete military or tax records, despite repetitive promises to do so. He dodged it all throughout the campaign.
 
I think the hosts of all these political debate shows - whether liberal or conservative leading - all say silly shit to get ratings.

O'Reilly seems especially bad with personal attacks.

The person who suffers is the 'stupid viewer.' It's not hard to convince stupid people one way or the other, something does not need to be factually true, just sold to them really well.

People spouting shit off like this:

Hannity claimed ABC might suggest Hitler's death would cause "more harm than good," added that CNN is bin Laden's "favorite channel"
 
Sean Hannity is definately a tool and hurts the conservative movement. He has no grasp of the issues and just spouts garbage from his microphone. O'Reilly's schtick is just that, a schtick. It works, pissing off a lot of people and gets ratings.
 
redguru said:
Sean Hannity is definately a tool and hurts the conservative movement. He has no grasp of the issues and just spouts garbage from his microphone. O'Reilly's schtick is just that, a schtick. It works, pissing off a lot of people and gets ratings.


Agree on Hannity. All heart and no brains.

O'Reilly is intelligent enough, but he places that populist shtick above facts and reality. If I had to listen to one more person attempt to explain world oil prices to him I'd puke.

But it's all indicative of modern political debate. Buckley and Will are a dying breed. There is no longer any room for genius and a civil exchange of ideas
 
The problem is you convert people to your views better by using logic and evidence that your views are right than using smear tactics and insults. You lose viewers by becoming defensive, radical and just assuming your party is best. Neither party really seems to grasp this fact.
 
Lao Tzu said:
The problem is you convert people to your views better by using logic and evidence that your views are right than using smear tactics and insults. You lose viewers by becoming defensive, radical and just assuming your party is best. Neither party really seems to grasp this fact.


He has the number one ratings in cable news and has for years now.

Whatever he is doing it works.
 
Phenom78 - Media matters claims Kerry did release personal tax and military data

http://mediamatters.org/items/200408170001

A summary of Kerry's military medical records -- released by Dr. Gerald J. Doyle on April 23 -- is also posted on the site........As for Coulter's claim that Kerry "won't release his tax records," Kerry did exactly that on April 14. In fact, Kerry's tax returns for the past five years are posted on the Kerry-Edwards '04 website.


Your statement about Clinton and rape could be true. There is circumstantial evidence, so its more of a smear campaign based on circumstantial evidence than an outright lie.
 
Phenom78 said:
He has the number one ratings in cable news and has for years now.

Whatever he is doing it works.

O'Reilly is preaching to the choir, not converting new members. And I don't think his choir would be nearly as big if they knew he has a long list of manipulations to answer for.
 
No Lao

As I recall the two issues were over his medical records and his joint returns. The meidcla records weren't released according to my memory, despite repeated promises to do so. The same with his joint returns since his wife claims most of their income.

It was an issue all throughout the campaign, not one invented by O'Reilly. Even the NYT's hit on it after the elections when the left decided this guy needs to go, and so all the embarassing info start coming out. Like how he was a D student in college. LOL
 
Lao Tzu said:
O'Reilly is preaching to the choir, not converting new members. And I don't think his choir would be nearly as big if they knew he has a long list of manipulations to answer for.


Sorry Lao. Im too lazy to go through them all and address them individually, but many of them are misleading.

But even had they all been accurate they amount to nothing more than nitpicking. Hardly the outright lies and intentional distortions of a Franken or Moore.

I think O'reilly is an annoying loud mouth who does cater to the lowest common denominator. But he isn't a liar.
 
redguru said:
Sean Hannity is definately a tool and hurts the conservative movement. He has no grasp of the issues and just spouts garbage from his microphone. O'Reilly's schtick is just that, a schtick. It works, pissing off a lot of people and gets ratings.

you think so??? i dig hanity, he is clear and precise and morally sound...bill's frankness is fuckin sweet, he does not mince words. i don't buy his independent spiel though
 
Lao Tzu said:
Phenom78 - Media matters claims Kerry did release personal tax and military data

http://mediamatters.org/items/200408170001

A summary of Kerry's military medical records -- released by Dr. Gerald J. Doyle on April 23 -- is also posted on the site........As for Coulter's claim that Kerry "won't release his tax records," Kerry did exactly that on April 14. In fact, Kerry's tax returns for the past five years are posted on the Kerry-Edwards '04 website.


Your statement about Clinton and rape could be true. There is circumstantial evidence, so its more of a smear campaign based on circumstantial evidence than an outright lie.

Kerry still hasn't released his original DD214 which probably will show he was discharged with other than honorable conditions. Over the years he has had the characterization of his discharge changed on three seperate occasions. Kerry has only released summary records from his military career.
 
Phenom78 said:
Seems like this website misleads and lies as well

Two examples

1)She falsely accused former President Bill Clinton of being a "very good rapist."

2)She falsely claimed Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) refused to release his military records and tax forms during his 2004 presidential campaign, when, in fact, both were posted on his website.

Bill Clinton has been accused of rape by several women. He was also forced to pay substantial damages in a sexual harassment suit. Coulter was transparently being sarcastic to draw attention to the history and not claiming he was convicted of rape.

She was correct. Kerry never posted his compete military or tax records, despite repetitive promises to do so. He dodged it all throughout the campaign.
I'll second this
 
uryan said:
how can anyone sit through his show? moron.
It's people who never would admit any form of error and look for justification for their own retarded bullshit that watch these asshats.
 
redguru said:
Kerry still hasn't released his original DD214 which probably will show he was discharged with other than honorable conditions. Over the years he has had the characterization of his discharge changed on three seperate occasions. Kerry has only released summary records from his military career.

If thats true then I stand corrected.
 
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