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Bill Maher on the Radical Right

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/republicans-scientologi_b_33764.html

Republicans = Scientologists


One of the tenets of Scientology is that anyone who criticizes the religion is fair game for any and all kinds of retribution. You can file lawsuits against them, you can harass them, you can spread lies about them, and it's OK because the critic is fundamentally evil.

This is the same reason Republicans have no problem running push polls, or handing out leaflets with false accusations, or calling Dems and telling them that their polling place has been changed... all this dishonest, sleazy stuff is OK because it's in the service of a greater good.

I'm not saying Dems don't indulge in vote shenanigans from time to time, but it's never on the same level. And when the Democrats do win, the impetus isn't to work with them, it's to destroy them - that was how Bill Clinton was received.

For a good chunk of the GOP base, the Democrats are literally in league with the Devil, so any means of keeping them out of power is legitimate.

In fact, this attitude is only a matter of degrees away from the belief radical Muslims have that any wrong perpetrated against the "infidels" is justified.

This also ties into the so-called father of neo-conservatism, the philosopher Leo Strauss, who argued that the only way to stop liberalism from ruining society was for the elites (a.k.a his neocon followers) to exploit myths (religion) or create new myths (the Islamic Menace) that will unite the hoi polloi in an orgy of nationalistic fervor. Sounds like fascism? Yup. But an interesting feature of Straussism is that the elites don't care if the myths they are exploiting are actually true; that's irrelevant as long as they're effective. Which is why we get Karl Rove talking about the Christian "nut-jobs," and the Kerry-hates-the-troops nonsense from last week. All those Republicans parroting the talking point re Kerry knew it was bullshit but they didn't care because it was an effective myth.





This is pretty dead on for the radical aspect of conservatives. Not to say that there aren't radical left wingers who feel that anyone on teh right is in league with the devil (they are growing rapidly, sadly), but because I grew up in the midwest I see alot of 'liberals are evil and unamerican' shit.

I could show this article to my mom & dad but I bet they'd just use it as evidence of a liberal conspiracy. My dad was pretty pissed off about the dems winning congress, so I didn't want to rub it in but that is what happens when you have a democracy. Sometimes your guy isn't the most popular.
 
4everhung said:
maher is a dweeb
really now

No, he is pretty dead on with his criticism and the neostraussism in right wing politics. Strauss felt liberalism led either to an amoral society or a dictatorship, so any means of stopping it was justified. I see this attitude alot in conservatives.
 
4everhung said:
shit I'll gift you a TV
I have 4 and need to move one for the new plasma

lol....got mine working in the 4th quarter.

But its a lil bitty one so I'm sure your old one would be an upgrade. :)

I bought it for my boat. Has a VCR built in. It was going to allow me to let chicks watch porn on my boat.

Getting them all heated up is far too much work see. They are also prone to system failures while getting heated up as you know....I think.

Show you how long ago I was chasing poon. VCR...lol.
 
bill maher's ego is huuggeee
in his quickness to diss the right he fails to see a very obivous point:
maher=radical right
only he's on the left of the spectrum
same person, different beliefs
 
LOL @ Maher being a leftie. He'll make fun of the left too. He's a moderate.
 
Mr. dB said:
LOL @ Maher being a leftie. He'll make fun of the left too. He's a moderate.
yeah right
how come all the lefties say this shit?
they do it do try to come across fair and unbiased
but you know, and i know, that's bullshit
 
he's a shit in my opinion
little beedy eyes
and smug face
but that's not what I base my opinion on
 
.......


For twelve years you've been asking "Who is John Galt?" This is John Galt speaking. I'm the man who's taken away your victims and thus destroyed your world. You've heard it said that this is an age of moral crisis and that Man's sins are destroying the world. But your chief virtue has been sacrifice, and you've demanded more sacrifices at every disaster. You've sacrificed justice to mercy and happiness to duty. So why should you be afraid of the world around you?

Your world is only the product of your sacrifices. While you were dragging the men who made your happiness possible to your sacrificial altars, I beat you to it. I reached them first and told them about the game you were playing and where it would take them. I explained the consequences of your 'brother-love' morality, which they had been too innocently generous to understand. You won't find them now, when you need them more than ever.

We're on strike against your creed of unearned rewards and unrewarded duties. If you want to know how I made them quit, I told them exactly what I'm telling you tonight. I taught them the morality of Reason -- that it was right to pursue one's own happiness as one's principal goal in life. I don't consider the pleasure of others my goal in life, nor do I consider my pleasure the goal of anyone else's life.

I am a trader. I earn what I get in trade for what I produce. I ask for nothing more or nothing less than what I earn. That is justice. I don't force anyone to trade with me; I only trade for mutual benefit. Force is the great evil that has no place in a rational world. One may never force another human to act against his/her judgment. If you deny a man's right to Reason, you must also deny your right to your own judgment. Yet you have allowed your world to be run by means of force, by men who claim that fear and joy are equal incentives, but that fear and force are more practical.

You've allowed such men to occupy positions of power in your world by preaching that all men are evil from the moment they're born. When men believe this, they see nothing wrong in acting in any way they please. The name of this absurdity is 'original sin'. That's inmpossible. That which is outside the possibility of choice is also outside the province of morality. To call sin that which is outside man's choice is a mockery of justice. To say that men are born with a free will but with a tendency toward evil is ridiculous. If the tendency is one of choice, it doesn't come at birth. If it is not a tendency of choice, then man's will is not free.

And then there's your 'brother-love' morality. Why is it moral to serve others, but not yourself? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when experienced by others, but not by you? Why is it immoral to produce something of value and keep it for yourself, when it is moral for others who haven't earned it to accept it? If it's virtuous to give, isn't it then selfish to take?

Your acceptance of the code of selflessness has made you fear the man who has a dollar less than you because it makes you feel that that dollar is rightfully his. You hate the man with a dollar more than you because the dollar he's keeping is rightfully yours. Your code has made it impossible to know when to give and when to grab.

You know that you can't give away everything and starve yourself. You've forced yourselves to live with undeserved, irrational guilt. Is it ever proper to help another man? No, if he demands it as his right or as a duty that you owe him. Yes, if it's your own free choice based on your judgment of the value of that person and his struggle. This country wasn't built by men who sought handouts. In its brilliant youth, this country showed the rest of the world what greatness was possible to Man and what happiness is possible on Earth.

Then it began apologizing for its greatness and began giving away its wealth, feeling guilty for having produced more than ikts neighbors. Twelve years ago, I saw what was wrong with the world and where the battle for Life had to be fought. I saw that the enemy was an inverted morality and that my acceptance of that morality was its only power. I was the first of the men who refused to give up the pursuit of his own happiness in order to serve others.

To those of you who retain some remnant of dignity and the will to live your lives for yourselves, you have the chance to make the same choice. Examine your values and understand that you must choose one side or the other. Any compromise between good and evil only hurts the good and helps the evil.

If you've understood what I've said, stop supporting your destroyers. Don't accept their philosophy. Your destroyers hold you by means of your endurance, your generosity, your innocence, and your love. Don't exhaust yourself to help build the kind of world that you see around you now. In the name of the best within you, don't sacrifice the world to those who will take away your happiness for it.

The world will change when you are ready to pronounce this oath:
I swear by my Life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man,
nor ask another man to live for the sake of mine.
 
Gambino said:
yeah right
how come all the lefties say this shit?
they do it do try to come across fair and unbiased
but you know, and i know, that's bullshit

Shit, when "Politically Incorrect" first went on the air, lefties all thought he was a Nazi.
 
Have liberals been bashing conservatives for so long that they are stuck in that gear?

C'mon libs. You did well at the midterms. Now put forward a legistlative agenda and show us what you can do.
 
mrplunkey said:
Have liberals been bashing conservatives for so long that they are stuck in that gear?

C'mon libs. You did well at the midterms. Now put forward a legistlative agenda and show us what you can do.
Funny you should put it that way. The conservatives have been bashing liberals for so long that its ingrained in the culture, I'm sure liberals can put forth a legislative agenda and in passing continue to bash conservatives.
 
WODIN said:
Funny you should put it that way. The conservatives have been bashing liberals for so long that its ingrained in the culture, I'm sure liberals can put forth a legislative agenda and in passing continue to bash conservatives.
The campaigns are over.

I guess its for the best though. Maybe the libs can wheel-spin for the next two years continuing to campaign while conservatives reformulate their positions.
 
Liberals have campaign issues

Improving our reputation
stem cell research
depoliticizing science
raising the minimum wage
universal healthcare
higher CAFE standards
more renewables and less foreign energy
less cronyism
 
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