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Big Mass Cycle (not for the faint of heart)

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Mr. Huge

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Howdy Folks. Long time reader and first time poster here. Got a cycle I'd like ya'll to look over and give your opinions on. Age is 32. I am a big guy, 6-1 and weight fluctuates anywhere between 260-275 pounds. I am not the leanest but not fat by any means. If I had to guestimate, I would say my body fat is in the low to mid teens. Keep in mind I have no desire to be "cut", "lean", "diced", "shredded" or whatever you folks are saying now a days. I like being big and strong, more of a power lifter than bodybuilder. I have an extensive cycle history, have tried and stacked just about every steroid under the sun. Played D-1 football back in my day where my steroid usage started. So basically this is not my first rodeo. Also, please do not play me for a fool and assume I don't know what I am doing or talking about, because that is not true. Also would like to add that I am on self prescribed TRT. After cycle I will resume cruising on 200 mg of Test Cyp a week with 100 mg of Deca. So I guess this makes this more of a Blast than a Cycle, but you get the gist.

1-16 Test Cyp - 400 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose - 800 mg/week
1-12 Deca - 600 mg/week
7-16 Tren Ace - 75 mg/day
1-4 Anadrol - 100 mg/day
9-12 Superdrol - 25 mg/day

Will be taking aromasin, caber, and proviron on cycle as needed. Again, after blast I will be cruising on 200 mg a week of test cyp and 100 mg of deca.

What do you guys think?
 
it looks very good and i wouldn't change much but for my taste i would run deca 2 extra weeks and add dbol during the weeks 5-8
 
Mr. Huge said:
Howdy Folks. Long time reader and first time poster here. Got a cycle I'd like ya'll to look over and give your opinions on. Age is 32. I am a big guy, 6-1 and weight fluctuates anywhere between 260-275 pounds. I am not the leanest but not fat by any means. If I had to guestimate, I would say my body fat is in the low to mid teens. Keep in mind I have no desire to be "cut", "lean", "diced", "shredded" or whatever you folks are saying now a days. I like being big and strong, more of a power lifter than bodybuilder. I have an extensive cycle history, have tried and stacked just about every steroid under the sun. Played D-1 football back in my day where my steroid usage started. So basically this is not my first rodeo. Also, please do not play me for a fool and assume I don't know what I am doing or talking about, because that is not true. Also would like to add that I am on self prescribed TRT. After cycle I will resume cruising on 200 mg of Test Cyp a week with 100 mg of Deca. So I guess this makes this more of a Blast than a Cycle, but you get the gist.

1-16 Test Cyp - 400 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose - 800 mg/week
1-12 Deca - 600 mg/week
7-16 Tren Ace - 75 mg/day
1-4 Anadrol - 100 mg/day
9-12 Superdrol - 25 mg/day

Will be taking aromasin, caber, and proviron on cycle as needed. Again, after blast I will be cruising on 200 mg a week of test cyp and 100 mg of deca.

What do you guys think?
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Couple things off hand I'd change. Drop the test to 300 or even just stay at 200 mg. In that stack it isn't gonna do anything but interfere with your other compounds by causing sides. Id run the decca the full 16 weeks as it takes times to build. The tren I'd start from day one and go to week 10 to take advantage of the first half of the cycle while those long esters are building. That and the anadrol will give you some great gains early on so I'd take advantage. The only thing I don't like in this stack is the Superdrol. That's probably the harshest oral I've ever used and I would not run it in that stack. I stacked halo and winny together and it wasn't as harsh as Superdrol was on me. So I'd drop the Superdrol and run winny, var, or Tbol from 12-18 to harden up at the end. Winny would be my top choice out of those, its cheap and highly effective, or if you got the money some halo would be great. The one supp I highly suggest for this stack and any other is n2guard. There is no other supp on the market that controls sides as well as it does.
 
Since your goal is bulking I wouldn't drop the superdrol. Many people including myself have had great results with it. Best compound out there for dry gains. Just make sure you run support supps with it and you should be fine.
 
Yes, strength and mass are the main goal.

Was actually thinking about some halo at the end instead of Superdrol.

Thanks for the feedback guys. Good lookin out!
 
No peptides.

I have been running 2iu a day of growth for quite some time now. Thinking about bumping that to 4 or 5. And am cycling slin, 4 weeks on/off. Just 10iu humulin r post workout.
 
Mr. Huge said:
No peptides.

I have been running 2iu a day of growth for quite some time now. Thinking about bumping that to 4 or 5. And am cycling slin, 4 weeks on/off. Just 10iu humulin r post workout.
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Drop the s-drol and drop the deca. And for fuque's sake man. Where is your anti-prolactin??? Get some caber or prami to fight the prolactin sides and get aromasin or a-dex for anti-estrogen. Some say run a nonsuppressive dose of T3 (12.5-25 mikes ED) but that's optional. Definitely run some n2guard as well. A lot of vets will tell you: DO NOT MIX 19-nor compounds!!!! Choose deca or Tren but not both.. Running the tren ace for 10 weeks with the eq is better than running the deca. Using adrol in the beginning is smart too. I do not like running more than one oral in a long cycle even if one is simply a kick-starter. Drop the test to 200-250. Tren can have bad sides on it's own, thowing s-drol in there on top of running a RBC multiplier like EQ sounds like a great way to eff up your body. If you want to change any of what I mentioned, swap the deca for tren. Tweeking anything else is a recipe for utter disaster. Just looking out. Even if you told me that you were running win or var at the end I would still say something similar but as one of the other posts mentioned, s-drol is super-harsh. Another post suggests the s-drol will harden you up. While this is true, so does tren ace at very low doses, let alone your dose. We have discussed running tren ace with halo in a merely hypothetical scenario and the minds of this board discussed how harsh that would be. But throw in s-drol which is worse? Nope.

Now let's discuss what you are going to do for a PCT after this terminator cycle you are running. What do you plan on running as your PCT?

*One final question: have you ever ran tren before?
 
based on what you just said, I don't think you read my post at all.

1. I said I will be taking aromasin, caber, and proviron as needed.
2. I am on TRT, therefore a PCT for this "Terminator" of a cycle is not needed. But I will keep an eye on estro rebound and run plenty of detox once I go back to my cruising dose.
3. I have all of my cycle support in order.
4. I have ran tren before, many times before. Thanks for the concern.

All other things you said have been noted. Thanks.
 
Mr. Huge said:
based on what you just said, I don't think you read my post at all.

1. I said I will be taking aromasin, caber, and proviron as needed.
2. I am on TRT, therefore a PCT for this "Terminator" of a cycle is not needed. But I will keep an eye on estro rebound and run plenty of detox once I go back to my cruising dose.
3. I have all of my cycle support in order.
4. I have ran tren before, many times before. Thanks for the concern.

All other things you said have been noted. Thanks.
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Sorry about that bro, I was reading on a cracked iPhone. Just got my new one an hour ago. Good luck on the cycle.
 
what lab is the GH...?? Next your going to need to keep your red blood cell count down, so donate blood 2-3 times during this run. I like that you have the tren starting later, it will really work good with the EQ (once its built up its levels) for strength. Slin will come in handy for a NP.

id try go use 50mg of prov ED, esp after wk5 or so.
 
Man, that is a crazy amount of gear! Do you compete or something? If not, then why bother with that much, it's not good for you. It sounds like you are already HUGE anyways! Why not just blast a little more test, or just add in some dbol, sdrol, adrol, or eq to your trt? Just my thoughts......

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buttbeater said:
Man, that is a crazy amount of gear! Do you compete or something? If not, then why bother with that much, it's not good for you. It sounds like you are already HUGE anyways! Why not just blast a little more test, or just add in some dbol, sdrol, adrol, or eq to your trt? Just my thoughts......

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That's what I'm saying. I don't think high test is worthwhile either. Tren doesn't play well with high test, it simply exacerbates the fire.
 
The GH is from Asia Pharma.

I've ran simpler cycles before I didn't get a lot out of them. Think I have reached the point where i can't grow much more so I push the envelope a bit. Not trying to compete, just trying to become as big and strong as possible. My last blast was 600mg of EQ and Deca and I put on 5 pounds of muscle.
 
Mr. Huge said:
The GH is from Asia Pharma.

I've ran simpler cycles before I didn't get a lot out of them. Think I have reached the point where i can't grow much more so I push the envelope a bit. Not trying to compete, just trying to become as big and strong as possible. My last blast was 600mg of EQ and Deca and I put on 5 pounds of muscle.
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Yea, unfortunately everyone eventually gets to the point where a few keepable pounds is all you'll get from a cycle but that's still respectable. Good luck on your cycle and most importantly, be safe and run bloods once a month or so to keep an eye on things
 
I always keep an eye on my health. I get my blood pressure checked just about everyday. Bloods I do pre and post cycle. I listen to my body for the most part, if something is wrong I will know it. My cycle support is no joke.
 
So how about this guys, based on your recommendations.

1-16 Test Cyp 200 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose 800 mg/week
1-16 Deca 600 mg/week
1-4 Anadrol 100 mg/day
7-16 Tren Ace 75mg/day
13-16 Halo 50 mg/day
 
Mr. Huge said:
So how about this guys, based on your recommendations.

1-16 Test Cyp 200 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose 800 mg/week
1-16 Deca 600 mg/week
1-4 Anadrol 100 mg/day
7-16 Tren Ace 75mg/day
13-16 Halo 50 mg/day
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Drop the Decca and the halo and it's a perfect stack with all your ancillaries and a good PCT. If you absolutely must throw in an end of cycle oral throw in Anavar. Do not get me wrong I love the idea of Halo with Ace but it just sounds crazy on your liver.
 
Actually, why don't you throw in GW when you would normally throw in your oral and just bridge that into your PCT because GW has ridiculous muscle wasting properties or anti-muscle wasting properties I should say. Get it from sarms one. I am running some now at the end of my Tren ace and test prop cycle and I love it.
 
Mr. Huge said:
So how about this guys, based on your recommendations.

1-16 Test Cyp 200 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose 800 mg/week
1-16 Deca 600 mg/week
1-4 Anadrol 100 mg/day
7-16 Tren Ace 75mg/day
13-16 Halo 50 mg/day
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It looks good although I'm not a big fan if eq. So I'd lower the eq to 600 and raise the tren to 100 mg day. The extra 200 mg or so of tren will blow the extra 200 mg of eq out the water in terms of gains. As long as you are taking n2guard, an ai, and are experienced enough to handle this stack you should be fine.
 
I ran 600 mg of Test with 800 mg of Tren E once.. Now that was a good time. I like Tren Ace a lot better tho. The lab that I am using doses it at 76mg\ml.. Trying to make it look like the original parabolan I guess. I'll see how it goes and look to ramp it up. And I think I will ad n2guard to my support stack.

I've ran Tren and Halo before.. not that big of a deal. Also again.. I am not doing a PCT

Thanks Guys
 
Mr. Huge said:
I ran 600 mg of Test with 800 mg of Tren E once.. Now that was a good time. I like Tren Ace a lot better tho. The lab that I am using doses it at 76mg\ml.. Trying to make it look like the original parabolan I guess. I'll see how it goes and look to ramp it up. And I think I will ad n2guard to my support stack.

I've ran Tren and Halo before.. not that big of a deal. Also again.. I am not doing a PCT

Thanks Guys
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Ya I'm a fan of tren e. I ran it at 800 last time and it was insane. I've used ace a few times and it's always been worse on me side wise and the frequent pins are a pain in the ass. That's why I only use long esters. On that high dose of tren and everything else I ran I had little to no sides because of the n2guard and low test dose. You can get away with quite a bit on n2guard. That shit Is the best thing since sliced bread when it comes to cycle support.
 
Blockade
Organ Shield
Lipid stabil
Liv-52
N-AC
Picroliv
Tudca
Taurine

That pretty much rounds out my cycle support.. and I am on most of it year round. And that's all around $100 a month so not too bad. I'll look more into the n2guard and see how it stacks up and fits in.

I thought about a gram of Tren a week, but thought it would be better to create some synergy between different compounds.
 
Mr. Huge said:
Blockade
Organ Shield
Lipid stabil
Liv-52
N-AC
Picroliv
Tudca
Taurine

That pretty much rounds out my cycle support.. and I am on most of it year round. And that's all around $100 a month so not too bad. I'll look more into the n2guard and see how it stacks up and fits in.

I thought about a gram of Tren a week, but thought it would be better to create some synergy between different compounds.
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Ya I wouldn't run just tren and test. You gotta throw in the decca and mast also. Those go together pretty well. I also love to kick it off with dbol and winny then finish with some winny or halo. You can stack the anadrol and winny also. And. 800 mg of tren was about the limit for me. I don't see the point in any more because at that amount the fat was falling off no matter how many cals I took in, and strength and mass gains were ridiculous.
 
fizzisnumerouno said:
Actually, why don't you throw in GW when you would normally throw in your oral and just bridge that into your PCT because GW has ridiculous muscle wasting properties or anti-muscle wasting properties I should say. Get it from sarms one. I am running some now at the end of my Tren ace and test prop cycle and I love it.
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The GW from sarms1 would be a good addition. OP, if I were you and you can afford it I would up the GH too. Are they just generic blue tops or something? I know you said they were from asia pharm. Any serum test done on them. Just curious on GH, I'm using 3.33iu of kefei's a day right now.
 
I am going to bump the Growth up a bit. All I can really tell you about it is that it is made by Asia Pharma, their gear is some of the best I have ever used.. have only been on GH for a few months so don't have a lot of info on it.

I've ran Mast a few times, more for support. Mast and Primo are not so good on my hair line.
 
I got the slin in there. Humulin R, 10 iu post workout. 4 weeks on and off.

And will bump the Growth up to 4 iu.

By LR3 do you mean IGF-1? 100 mcg, 3x per week, intramuscular.. in the muscle worked? Sound About right?

Have been reading on this board about the GW. Sounds like a hell of a compound. Maybe throw it in 20 mg a day for the last 12 weeks.
 
Mr. Huge said:
I got the slin in there. Humulin R, 10 iu post workout. 4 weeks on and off.

And will bump the Growth up to 4 iu.

By LR3 do you mean IGF-1? 100 mcg, 3x per week, intramuscular.. in the muscle worked? Sound About right?

Have been reading on this board about the GW. Sounds like a hell of a compound. Maybe throw it in 20 mg a day for the last 12 weeks.
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Check the GW thread. I debated with Dylan about the sides and conceded after doing more and more research. I posted the peer reviewed studies I found. I don't know if you suffer from tren fatigue but I know GE has done a great job countering it. I know I might lose you here, but you may be able to keep 90% of your physique gains from your cycle when you drop to PCT, or TRT in your case.
 
Mr. Huge said:
Howdy Folks. Long time reader and first time poster here. Got a cycle I'd like ya'll to look over and give your opinions on. Age is 32. I am a big guy, 6-1 and weight fluctuates anywhere between 260-275 pounds. I am not the leanest but not fat by any means. If I had to guestimate, I would say my body fat is in the low to mid teens. Keep in mind I have no desire to be "cut", "lean", "diced", "shredded" or whatever you folks are saying now a days. I like being big and strong, more of a power lifter than bodybuilder. I have an extensive cycle history, have tried and stacked just about every steroid under the sun. Played D-1 football back in my day where my steroid usage started. So basically this is not my first rodeo. Also, please do not play me for a fool and assume I don't know what I am doing or talking about, because that is not true. Also would like to add that I am on self prescribed TRT. After cycle I will resume cruising on 200 mg of Test Cyp a week with 100 mg of Deca. So I guess this makes this more of a Blast than a Cycle, but you get the gist.

1-16 Test Cyp - 400 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose - 800 mg/week
1-12 Deca - 600 mg/week
7-16 Tren Ace - 75 mg/day
1-4 Anadrol - 100 mg/day
9-12 Superdrol - 25 mg/day

Will be taking aromasin, caber, and proviron on cycle as needed. Again, after blast I will be cruising on 200 mg a week of test cyp and 100 mg of deca.

What do you guys think?
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Nice!!! Running something similar as we speak...

1-16 Omnas 500mg EW (1-8), 750mg EW (9-16)
1-16 EQ 600mg EW (1-8), 900mg (9-16)
1-16 NPP 400mg EW (1-8), 600mg (9-16)
1-16 Proviron 50mg ED
1-5 Dbol 50mg ED
11-16 Tbol 80-100mg ED...still debating on possibly 100mg Var

All ancillaries such as Adex, Caber, and support supplements for liver and such of course. I have plenty of Tren...love Tren...but still on fence adding it to this cycle, although you have me now thinking ;).


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@fiss The GW looks intriguing, maybe throw it in the last part of the cycle then and continue for a bit after cycle is done.

@muscle You have to throw tren in there, you can never go wrong with tren! Then the cycles would be almost identical!
 
Just curious...are you on TRT for hypogonadism or because you've been doing cycles for so long? That is quite a kick you're on, dude, but if your blood work, cholesterol and blood pressure are acceptable then more power to ya. And yes GW is the cat's pajamas in terms of PCT and sarms in general.
 
I am on TRT because I chose to be. Just got tired of coming off. TRT was a better option for me than to continue going on and off. And I am on top of my overall health. It is my number 2 concern besides being huge.
 
Mr. Huge said:
@fiss The GW looks intriguing, maybe throw it in the last part of the cycle then and continue for a bit after cycle is done.

l!
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Exactly. I think you will retain a lot from your overall cycle.
 
This cycle is giving me high RBC and BP just looking at it haha

GW is no joke dude. That shit will carry you anywhere on your feet and rip you up
 
You test is way too low with that much decca / equipoise....you're also running tren and decca together which I don't recommend. Your dick will also stop functioning unless you plan on using Viagra throughout the cycle. I think it's a very bad choice of cycle. Here's what I would do differently IMO:

1-16 Test Cyp - 800 mg/week
1-16 Equipiose - 600 mg/week
1-12 Deca - 400 mg/week
1-4 Anadrol - 100 mg/day
5-10 Var 40 mgs / day

Dropped the superdrol. Replaced with var.
Dropped the Decca to 400/week. Upped the test to 800/week.
Dropped the tren
 
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