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Best Supps for Insulin resistance /glucose intolerance
- Thread starter Whacked
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The best supp is Glucorell R because it combines the R+ ALA with Biotin. Since it's the lack of R+ Lipoic Acid in your mitochodria that makes your muscle cells insulin resistant there is nothing that you could supplement that would be any better. Glucorell R turns insulin resistance around in 15 minutes.
Whacked
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How mang MG's with each meal for an above-average slin resistent person (me)?
Take it with ALL meals? ( I dont eat carbs with every meal)?
CLA wouldn't help in addition to r-ala?
Does r-ala work with just starchy carbs or simple carbs? And would iI use more/less for starchy carbs vs simple sugars.
Take it with ALL meals? ( I dont eat carbs with every meal)?
CLA wouldn't help in addition to r-ala?
Does r-ala work with just starchy carbs or simple carbs? And would iI use more/less for starchy carbs vs simple sugars.
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Glucorell R doesn't work with one type of carb. It works to replace the missing R lipoic in your muscle cells. Then whatever carbs you convert to glucose those muscle cells will be ready to uptake.
The evidence for CLA is not as strong. We actually stopped carrying it because we could get behind it.
NO! DO NOT BLOCK YOUR CARBS. This will do nothing for your insulin resistance problem and it's much better from a health standpoint to use them instead of blocking them.
The evidence for CLA is not as strong. We actually stopped carrying it because we could get behind it.
NO! DO NOT BLOCK YOUR CARBS. This will do nothing for your insulin resistance problem and it's much better from a health standpoint to use them instead of blocking them.
macrophage69alpha
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Whacked said:
if you are insulin resistant, go with at least 1 cap per meal (even if no carbs). though some people feel that they dont have to. (you should try it both ways... to get a feel for it)
general range of dosing is 1 cap per 25-50g of carbs (this is somewhat a bodywieght dependent dosage).
it is good to adjust your dosing up and down to see how you respond. Also the type of carbs is important to response (and this will vary individually).. ie you may need different OPTIMAL doses for 100g of oat carbs vs. 100g of dextrose.
you asked for optimal
. but generally as stated above 1-2 caps per meal will provide solid results. if its a big meal 1-2 caps prior and 1 cap during works well for a lot of people.
CLOMIDCLOWN
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How do you know you are insulin resistant? If you truely are than forget supps and try a drug like glucophage.
Glucorell R outperforms glucophage. And without the sides.
BTW No one knows what causes insulin resistance. There are factors that contribute to it but what actually makes one person become insulin resistant and someone else not become insulin resistant in the same environment is not understood. So diet and exercise may help, but it may not.
BTW No one knows what causes insulin resistance. There are factors that contribute to it but what actually makes one person become insulin resistant and someone else not become insulin resistant in the same environment is not understood. So diet and exercise may help, but it may not.
macrophage69alpha
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CLOMIDCLOWN
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Your claim is rediculous... PROVE IT!
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curgeo
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Yuck.....Have you ever tried glucophage? Talk about stomach discomfort waiting to happen. I have used both and I couldn't be happier with R-ala. You want proof? Stomach discomfort is proof enough for me.
CLOMIDCLOWN
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That is a seperate issue, ala does not outperform glucophage HOWEVER it does have a place in insulin resistance and out of control diabetics IN CONJUNCTION with glucophage. Glucophage remains the preferred drug for treating insulin resistance AND is among the safest drugs in existence. However, safe doesnt mean symptom free.... I can relate to your stomach problems.
But UTLER says its BETTER to take ala over glucophage and that is crazy, i want proof.
CLOMIDCLOWN
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Absolutely, a combination of drugs would be best especially is c peptide is above 6.5 this is when we use 3 drugs like those you mentioned which increase insulin sensitivity so less insulin is needed.
BigJoshRn
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Insulin stimulates glucose uptake into tissues, and its ability to do so varies greatly among individual persons. In insulin resistance, tissues have a diminished ability to respond to the action of insulin. To compensate for resistance, the pancreas secretes more insulin.The liver also becomes insulin resistant and responds by overproducing glucose. Insulin-resistant persons, therefore, have high plasma insulin levels and can develop hyperglycemia as the pancreas is unable to keep up.
Insulin resistance can be defined as a cluster of abnormalities, including obesity, hypertension, dyslipidemia and type 2 diabetes, that are associated with insulin resistance, compensatory hyperinsulinemia and subsequent hyperglycemia.
The current treatments for insulin resistance involve caloric and carb restiction, exercise, and treatment of the abnormalities associated with it. If those fail, then the treatment progresses to medications to increase insulin sensitivity.
Exogenous insulin cannot increase the insulin sensitivity of cells.
Insulin resistance can be defined as a cluster of abnormalities, including obesity, hypertension, dyslipidemia and type 2 diabetes, that are associated with insulin resistance, compensatory hyperinsulinemia and subsequent hyperglycemia.
The current treatments for insulin resistance involve caloric and carb restiction, exercise, and treatment of the abnormalities associated with it. If those fail, then the treatment progresses to medications to increase insulin sensitivity.
Exogenous insulin cannot increase the insulin sensitivity of cells.
CLOMIDCLOWN
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avandia or actos both increase insulin sensitivity.
macrophage69alpha
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CLOMIDCLOWN said:
they also increase adipogenesis. in clinicall studies the use of r+ lipoic in conjuction has been shown to ameliorate this effect. (see Packer)
