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I have been taking ephedrine for way too long and am trying to come off it, however, I feel like shit when I don't take it. What is your experience with the non-ephedrine fatburners such as Xenedrine-EFX and soforth.
Best non-ephedrine fat burners
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I'm trying to get myself away from ephedrine or norephedrine, I feel I am dependent on it and want to stop and think the non-ephedrine will be a good tapering agent as well as offer a placebo effect
Some horrible advice on this thread...
The reason you feel like shit without Ephedrine is the fact that your body has adapted to it. Use it 12 weeks on, 4-5 wks off at most.
NYC (Norephedrine, Yohimbine, Caffeine) is a good alternative. Norephedrine & Ephedrine arent the same.
Clen is another alternative. You should probably exercise some caution and NOT take Clen & NYC or Clen & Eph. at the same time.
Synephrine is an option as well. It can be used with Clen, NYC, or Ephedrine b/c it does not work by the same pathways.
The reason you feel like shit without Ephedrine is the fact that your body has adapted to it. Use it 12 weeks on, 4-5 wks off at most.
NYC (Norephedrine, Yohimbine, Caffeine) is a good alternative. Norephedrine & Ephedrine arent the same.
Clen is another alternative. You should probably exercise some caution and NOT take Clen & NYC or Clen & Eph. at the same time.
Synephrine is an option as well. It can be used with Clen, NYC, or Ephedrine b/c it does not work by the same pathways.
I had a similar problem, I felt like I was becoming a crackhead/pillpopper. You can try NYC's, they still help with fatburning and the buzz isn't as great as ECA's.
But I found that taking L-Tyrosine 3gs helped me to completely come off ECA's. Biotest's Powerdrive is actually a pretty good product for this. Also drinking Yerba Mate tea helped for a "cleaner" caffeine replacement. It's not the same amped feeling of ECA, but it helps to stay focused.
But I found that taking L-Tyrosine 3gs helped me to completely come off ECA's. Biotest's Powerdrive is actually a pretty good product for this. Also drinking Yerba Mate tea helped for a "cleaner" caffeine replacement. It's not the same amped feeling of ECA, but it helps to stay focused.
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i'm totally addicted to ephedrine too.
i wanna cut it out completely but my workouts suffer when if i dont take it pre.
any suggestions?
nyc? what ingredients are in that?
i wanna cut it out completely but my workouts suffer when if i dont take it pre.
any suggestions?
nyc? what ingredients are in that?
satchboogie said:
You get some energy from the caffeine and some from the ephedrine. Just take the ephedrine out. You can get 200 capsules of Sci-Fit Caffeine (200mg) for $7 at Bodybuilding.com. Unlike Ephedrine, your body never adapts to caffeine like that, so you can take it to give you energy.
NYC = Norephedrine, Yohimbine HCL, Caffeine (and note: I posted the NYC ingredients earlier on this very thread, you must just skim the posts)
ShutUp&Train
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Diabolical
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I love clen but it makes me jittery,
I like t-3 for the fact it doesnt, but I see greater results with clen
I like t-3 for the fact it doesnt, but I see greater results with clen
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satchboogie said:
I used to "need" ephedrine pre-workout, but after a while my lifts went back up and I was back to normal. I prefer NYC to ECA because the wired effect doesn't last nearly as long as with ephedrine. I had a lot of trouble sleeping when I used ephedrine to cut last year, but with NYC it wasn't nearly as bad. NYC's appetite suppression is infinitely better for me than plain ephedrine as well. I have to force myself to eat just to get to 2500 calories.
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