Best cycle for pure WEIGHT GAIN?

[SwampDonkey]

What do you guys think? Im talking sheer gain in lbs. Not diet, just the best products and AAS to attain the max size in the shortest amount of time. I guess im asking for the compounds that allow the best conversion of food to muscle. Anyone have any advice?

Right now im taking 600mg Test Cyp /week, 4 IU HGH /day, and 2 IU HCG /day.
Seem to be kinda stuck at a lean 175lbs.
Oh and I eat a shitload of food + shakes

 

[ryno9000]

Any heavily aromatizing compound w/o AIs will make you gain weight. Holy tits!


But seriously, if you are looking for just weight gain, realize that the compunds that will give that too you will drop it off because it really is mostly water weight.
-dbol
-abombs
-long estered test
-deca

Those are your best bets. Keep in mind, everyone reacts different. I have run dbol once hoping to ballon out a little and instead I found it leaning me out. Which I enjoyed after all. How many cycles have you done?

 

[HAYEZ]

gh 5iu ed
test 1-14
deca 1-12
dbol 1-6

put doses what ur comfortable with

 

[SwampDonkey]

How many cycles have you done?
This is my third "real" cycle.

 

[SwampDonkey]

gh 5iu ed
test 1-14
deca 1-12
dbol 1-6

put doses what ur comfortable with

Cool. Yo Hayez, you seem to have pretty good luck with Tren. Too soon for me to try it?

 

[sonicwaste]

My advice is add another compound to the test, and change up your diet and training routine. I was in a similar situation to you 2 weeks ago... 6 weeks in to prop/anavar cycle (cutting)... I was up from 196lbs to 200lbs and dropped 2%bf through week 4. Week 5 and 6, I dropped to 195lbs and dropped another 2%bf... I just added in some beastdrol and tren tfo... I'm now on week 7, been taking beastdrol/tren for a little over a week and I am up to 199lbs and no change in bodyfat... Take in to account I am at a calorie defecit and taking a healthy dose of arimidex.

Your added compund is your choice, dbol would be a good choice. If you need something quick, easy, and cheap.. I'd consider the beastrdrol/tren tfo combo.

 

[jacshelb]

Good advice in this thread! I would add in that you may look at your training/rest. I find that I grow so much better when I can get a nap in and train only 3 days per week. If I'm not growing, I'll back off my volume and get a bit more rest while making sure to maximize the food. I know that's all basic stuff, but sometimes it's the simplest things that work.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Muscle is muscle and it's not like the muscle gained from any particular steroid is heavier than the muscle gained from another.

Some steroids bloat more than other than others but the weight gain is temporary.

 

[swole]

stuck on a weight?

ditch the shakes

up your cals from real food

 

[Unit 2005]

Best thing for weight gain - food, and loads of it.

Best steroids for bulking up and adding weight:-

Long estered Test (Enth or cyp)
Anadrol (stronger than dbol - but tha would be my choice - not so harsh!)
Equipoise (to boost hunger through the roof)
Deca

 

[swole]

Best thing for weight gain - food, and loads of it.

Best steroids for bulking up and adding weight:-

Long estered Test (Enth or cyp)
Anadrol (stronger than dbol - but tha would be my choice - not so harsh!)
Equipoise (to boost hunger through the roof)
Deca

prop is more powerful mg per mg

dbol is stronger than anadrol mg per mg

eq and deca are nice but beware the sides

honestly the best bulker is primo/test and a hearty diet above maintenance calories

 

[WinnyPumps]

What do you guys think? Im talking sheer gain in lbs. Not diet, just the best products and AAS to attain the max size in the shortest amount of time. I guess im asking for the compounds that allow the best conversion of food to muscle. Anyone have any advice?

Right now im taking 600mg Test Cyp /week, 4 IU HGH /day, and 2 IU HCG /day.
Seem to be kinda stuck at a lean 175lbs.
Oh and I eat a shitload of food + shakes.

Definitely your diet, need to up your intensity, lower volume, eat more calories. If you are stuck at 175lbs and it's your 3rd cycle you need to be eating WAY more.
I've been using Dorian Yates style training and have been packing on the pounds. I'm in the gym for an hour at the most. I used to overtrain and didn't realize it until I cut my volume down and upped the intensity.

 

[Unit 2005]

Whats your training routine look like bro? if you are struggling to put on the pounds on 600mg of test a week with GH then something is wrong, and if you say your eating a shit load - how do you define shit load....lets have a little look at your diet too and maybe we can help you without you slamming stupid amounts of gear.

 

[Unit 2005]

prop is more powerful mg per mg

dbol is stronger than anadrol mg per mg

eq and deca are nice but beware the sides

honestly the best bulker is primo/test and a hearty diet above maintenance calories

Agreed on strength mg per mg, but hes asking shich puts on the most weight on. Long etsered test is a must in a bulker, anadrol blows you up like a fish and i mentioned eq for appetite, not due to its muscle building qualities. Primo is a great cutting drug but for adding mass, its way down the list. The best drug for sheer size has to be test, the more you use the better it gets. Best cycle for gains - shit loads of test, want to add something to make gains better...more test. Sides would be extreme too but heavy test is best.

 

[HAYEZ]

Agreed on strength mg per mg, but hes asking shich puts on the most weight on. Long etsered test is a must in a bulker, anadrol blows you up like a fish and i mentioned eq for appetite, not due to its muscle building qualities. Primo is a great cutting drug but for adding mass, its way down the list. The best drug for sheer size has to be test, the more you use the better it gets. Best cycle for gains - shit loads of test, want to add something to make gains better...more test. Sides would be extreme too but heavy test is best.

test really doesnt do a thing for me other then sex aid it seems..hgh and deca together has been the ultimate mass builder..i jsut quit the gh a few months ago and im feeling it now..really wishing i didnt do it..

 

[swole]

Agreed on strength mg per mg, but hes asking shich puts on the most weight on. Long etsered test is a must in a bulker, anadrol blows you up like a fish and i mentioned eq for appetite, not due to its muscle building qualities. Primo is a great cutting drug but for adding mass, its way down the list. The best drug for sheer size has to be test, the more you use the better it gets. Best cycle for gains - shit loads of test, want to add something to make gains better...more test. Sides would be extreme too but heavy test is best.

you're making a lot of assumptions here that are just plain opinion

i use primo to bulk

and more test does NOT mean the better it gets

there's a point of diminishing returns

i get no benefit from 500mg of test compared to 250

as a matter of fact i prefer 250mg of test with 400mg of primo regardless of my goals

bulking or cutting the only thing that changes is my diet and training routine

 

[ALIN]

What do you guys think? Im talking sheer gain in lbs. Not diet, just the best products and AAS to attain the max size in the shortest amount of time. I guess im asking for the compounds that allow the best conversion of food to muscle. Anyone have any advice?

Right now im taking 600mg Test Cyp /week, 4 IU HGH /day, and 2 IU HCG /day.
Seem to be kinda stuck at a lean 175lbs.
Oh and I eat a shitload of food + shakes.

Massive calories,,ANADROL/TEST/TREN

 

[RADAR]

What do you guys think? Im talking sheer gain in lbs. Not diet, just the best products and AAS to attain the max size in the shortest amount of time. I guess im asking for the compounds that allow the best conversion of food to muscle. Anyone have any advice?

Right now im taking 600mg Test Cyp /week, 4 IU HGH /day, and 2 IU HCG /day.
Seem to be kinda stuck at a lean 175lbs.
Oh and I eat a shitload of food + shakes

Keep a log of food you eat ,you may not be getting as much as you think you are.
Protein on cycle should be 1&1/2 to 2 grams per every pound of bodyweight.

My favorite mass cycle Dbol, Test Eth, Deca
RADAR

 

[Unit 2005]

Swole, i hear what you are saying about primo. Its great for lean dry and easy to maintain gains. But for mass, test is best.

Steroid . com :-

"Now this is very interesting. You´ll note that the most fat was lost by the group in this study who used the highest dose (600mgs/week), and the most Fat Free mass, Strength and Muscle Volume was gained, when compared to any of the lower doses studied (14). Basically, the more testosterone you use (and this holds true for almost all steroids), the more gains you´ll get! I know that the previous statement will ruffle some feathers in the "less is more" club, but that´s simply too bad... more test = more muscle, more strength, more size, and less fat."

"And guess what? The more you use the more results you get. And frequently, the more side effects too (3)."

Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2003 Jan 7; [epub ahead of print] Related Articles, Links "Development of Models to Predict Anabolic Response to Testosterone Administration in Healthy Young Men."


"And, since Sustanon is simply a form of (well actually 4 forms of) testosterone, we also know that administration of this compound will produce a dose respondant curve. (10)A what? Yeah...basically a "dose respondant curve" is the fancy way of saying "the more you take, the bigger you get..."

Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2001 Dec;281(6):E1172-81.


Big Cat:-

"Of course testosterone Enanthate can be stacked with any number of compounds apart from these, but these make the best match (Primo/Deca/Equipiose). When stacking with testosterone, one needs to look at what the other compound can bring. Either it has a characteristic that testosterone doesn't have, or its nominally safer. The testosterone will bring all the mass, so adding another steroid to enhance mass alone, is futile. More testosterone is the best remedy for that."

 

[Unit 2005]

Keep a log of food you eat ,you may not be getting as much as you think you are.
Protein on cycle should be 1&1/2 to 2 grams per every pound of bodyweight.

My favorite mass cycle Dbol, Test Eth, Deca
RADAR

Test with a dbol kickstart is amazing for mass and strength. Sustanon or prop for the first few weeks will bring quicker results too.