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Best Cutting Cycle

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Give them to me guys.

I have an abundance of clen, tbol, gh, and IGF so if you can work these in that would help.

1000K to the one I go with.

6' / 210lbs / 20%BF
 
Well, I say its kind of hard to just go with that.

IGF(hopefully the LR3) should be run between 4-6 weeks based on personally preference anywhere between 50-100 mcg. I only run it at 50 mcg and see great results while others still feel like they need more.

GH should be ran at 4 iu ed, and don't get stingy with that 5 days on 2 days off. Get the full effects of it and run it all week, 2 iu in the morning and 2 iu in the evening, and at least 6 months.

Clen is another personal preference. Personally, I don't like the idea of 2 weeks on 2 weeks off. I've read some studies from Anthony Roberts that stated that you can lose just as much weight (BF) naturally as you would running clen for two weeks. It begins to shine after that two weeks. IMPO Maximum of 6 weeks followed by 2 weeks off at anywhere between 80-120 mcg.

Tbol should be ran around 40-60 mg/ed for about 4 weeks followed by the same amount of time off.

I am a little concerned about your bF being so high. How many cycles have you done?
 
I know Mak usually goes with a prop/cyp combo.

test 500 mg/ew for 12 weeks
eq 400-600 mg/ew for 12 weeks
Tren 75-100 mg/ed for 6 weeks (whether at the beginning or the end - i prefer the beginning)
Winstrol 50 mg/ed for last 6 weeks
Proviron 25-50mg/ed throughout


But bro, like I said, your BF is rather high at 20%. This is a rather experienced cycle, and I don't know much about your cycle history. Cardio and diet are rather important. I know you are going to use, although I suggest you get your BF down naturally first, I still plan on giving you the info you need so that if you do decide to do it, you can do it right.
 
Clen with benadryl so you can regenerate your receptors and run it more then 2 weeks
tbol 80mgs a day
or if you have these:

winny 50mg /day last (6weeks)
EQ 600mg/week 12wks ...with front load (to see faster results)
test 750 mg /week
var 100mg /week first 8 weeks(appetite suppresant, so should fight off EQ hunger)
cardio on empty stomach in morning.
watch ur liver as well, tyler detox ect.

take care bro
 
The % is high because I just got off a bulking cycle. I usually just lift for strength. Started eating like a bor.
 
No winny as I'm already starting to lose some up top. I've run it in the past without seeming to lose, but it's not a risk I want to take.
 
Winny doesn't cut BF, but it will get rid of excess water retention and help you maintain quality muscle.
 
d_o_c_ said:
Gives your muscle that hard look. I ain't willing to lose my hair for it though.
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If you are predisposed for MPB, then you should worry about it. Other than that, you shouldn't shed any hair. If that were the case, Cutler and some of those other guys would be bald.
 
I would run the GH and IGF in a long cycle...if I had enough for several months.
If Not, then I would go with The old Standby...TestE/TrenE for 10 weeks, Through in some winny or Var in the last two weeks of the cycle and continue for two weeks after the last inject...right up to PCT.
 
Definitely Predisposed.

Started balding at 23. Doesn't seem to be going anymore, but I'd like to keep what I still have.

I have more than enough GH and IGF to last me forever.

What do you think I would get from a stack like this

4iu gh ed

50mcg Igtropin

80mg Tbol Week 1-4

Throw in the clen of course.
 
Thats good,

but i dont beleive in IGF, so if you can trade it for some var???
that would be great!
benadryl with clen to run more then 2 weeks in a row
 
d_o_c_ said:
Give them to me guys.

I have an abundance of clen, tbol, gh, and IGF so if you can work these in that would help.

1000K to the one I go with.

6' / 210lbs / 20%BF
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Prop/tren a/winny- is the best cutting cycle to use. Out of the 4 you listed i would only use clen, GH, & IGF for cutting.
 
Zuperman said:
Thats good,

but i dont beleive in IGF, so if you can trade it for some var???
that would be great!
benadryl with clen to run more then 2 weeks in a row
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I love IGF, but to each their own.
 
Personally I'm liking my clen/anavar/masteron stack. I know people say masteron should only be used as a precontest hardener, but it's working great for me as a cutter. I'm on a severely restricted diet, my abs are more visible each week, I'm hard as a rock, and I've made small gains in lbm (probably from the var). I've tried tren and prop before and it was good, but I'm getting great results and no sides on this cycle whatsoever.

Consider this cycle:

1-10 masteron 525/week
1-6 anavar 60mg/day
7-10 tbol 60mg/day
clen 2 on 2 off throughout
 
d_o_c_ said:
I'm going to have to give this to zuperman. But I'm going to send some lions way as well.
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ouch. i poured my soul into helping you. haha. its cool. just let me know what you plan on doing.
 
i am what i am said:
I know Mak usually goes with a prop/cyp combo.

test 500 mg/ew for 12 weeks
eq 400-600 mg/ew for 12 weeks
Tren 75-100 mg/ed for 6 weeks (whether at the beginning or the end - i prefer the beginning)
Winstrol 50 mg/ed for last 6 weeks
Proviron 25-50mg/ed throughout


But bro, like I said, your BF is rather high at 20%. This is a rather experienced cycle, and I don't know much about your cycle history. Cardio and diet are rather important. I know you are going to use, although I suggest you get your BF down naturally first, I still plan on giving you the info you need so that if you do decide to do it, you can do it right.
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Actually bro, I use test ent most of the time. I just got a great deal on the cyp/prop combo so I used that for my shoot.
 
Makavelli said:
Actually bro, I use test ent most of the time. I just got a great deal on the cyp/prop combo so I used that for my shoot.
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Sorry bro. I always revert back to your shoot cycle. Sorry for the mishap.
 
IMHO, cutting cycles need no more than 1 AAS becasue you are only using it to maintain muscle mass (GH being the exception). SOOOOOOOoooooo, i would run GH and the tbol, dont know the GH dose, but tbol at 40mg ED.

I had my best cutter on 50mg drol ED and 1000-1500 cals ed with 30-40 min cardio ED. Very little muscle lost, but a ton of fat, EVERYONE noticed it in just over a month.

Clen i dont consider AAS........So 1 anabolic agent and thermos of your choice (Tbol and clen). Cutt calls WAY back and up the cardio and you will she fat like crazy. Save the GH an IGF and other juice for bulking where it does the most good. No sense in running several AAS while cutting, you only need one to stay anabolic and preserve muscle mass.
 
6' / 210lbs / 20%BF
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gh and igf with those stats seems total overkill... tren and test 500mg pw each stacked with cardio and diet should be plenty even with the shittiest genetics
 
I am still not convinced that benedryl is an effective up-regulator. The studies I've seen are on ketotifen. That is not to say I don't take benedryl with clen, because I do. I'm just not sure it does any good. Do you notice a physiological effect when taking ketotifen? For example, do you notice reduced heart rate? I don't notice anything with benedryl.
 
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