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Best Bulk Cycle

skeeeeezo

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What is the best bulk cycle? DBOL + DECA + SUST? Is deca always just used to jump start a cycle or can it be used for 10 weeks? How can i bulk up the best?
 
1-10 500mg sus
1-10 400mg deca
1-4 25mg/d dbol

I think you meant to say dbol is used to kick cycles off, the reason for that is because it is hard on your liver and should not be used for much more than 4 weeks.
 
Yea, thats right. I meant to say DBOL to jump start. FOR SK*, im not admitting to be an expert, look at my status compared to yours. Your the apparent pro, im sure you know much more then i, which is exactly why i made this post - to get help from people that know far more then myself.
 
Regardless of what others may say, I don't think you are clueless. Maybe a little bit confused, but not clueless. Sust, Deca, and D-bol are a great cycle for adding mass. He is what I would use personally. I think 12 weeks is better for a mass cycle. Remember you need lots of rest and tons of protien, and that will make the most difference.

Week 1-12 500mg sustanon 250 (or 400mg Test enanthate, and 100mg test propionate) if you can get it
Week 1-12 300 mg Nandralone Decanoate (Deca)
Week 1-6 25 mg D-bol every day
 
how about this: sust 250 every other day for 10 weeks with .25 mg arimidex and hcg in week 6 and 9 clomid 14 days after last inj...that is it you will grow like hell...the only other thing to do is to add dbol for the first 4 weeks at 50 -75 mg a day, that is optional though...
 
In my opinion, 250 mg of sust every other day is a bit excessive for a novice. That works out to almost 1 gram of test a week. What are you thinking. The guy probably never did a cycle before either. If you want to keep it simple just do this:

week 1-12 500 mg sustanon 250 1 shot 2x a week
week 1-6 25 mg d-bol every day

You should get good results from the sustanon alone, but you wanted "the ultimate mass cycle", and for that I would also add Deca.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: WHAT ARE YOUR STATS???

It makes a big difference.
 
I would say test + tren, and dbol but that shit is toxic ;)

There are no "best" cycle for bulk. You can cut and bulk with all steroids, It's just your diet you have to change.

Right now I'm bulking with Test, tren and EQ.

The EQ makes me vascular and hungry and seems to be a helper when it comes to holding fat away.

Test is for...test LOL. I don't need to write more do I. Test is just something I will never leave out from a cycle from now on(maybe not propionate like now because it hurts like a bitch).

Tren is for the strength and gains, pumps, vascularity, "fuck off fat" abilities on me, and lots and lots of other nice things.

I like the medium to low doses, the gains will come with the diet as always. Not enought food = no gains.
 
I would do just sus @ 500mg/wk for 10 weeks and maybe some d-bol but that's it. Youwill gain plenty if you eat right. Good luck bro. Save the DECA for the next go around.
 
jubei said:
In my opinion, 250 mg of sust every other day is a bit excessive for a novice. That works out to almost 1 gram of test a week. What are you thinking. The guy probably never did a cycle before either. If you want to keep it simple just do this:

week 1-12 500 mg sustanon 250 1 shot 2x a week
week 1-6 25 mg d-bol every day

You should get good results from the sustanon alone, but you wanted "the ultimate mass cycle", and for that I would also add Deca.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: WHAT ARE YOUR STATS???

It makes a big difference.

it really annoys me that you don't understand active levels, or realease times of sustanon...if taken eod at 250 mg that works out to about 100 mg a day active...do some fucking research before you criticize shit
 
Iron lion eat a dick. What makes you think I haven't done research? Just because I don't agree with you. What don't i understand about release time? The fact that there is one fast acting ester, 2 medium and one long?? Whoa your too smart for me. Grow up and get a life clown. My first cycle was 250 mg of sust a week and I kept 15 lbs of muscle. You're suggesting 4 times that much. Use your brain a little more and you mouth a little less. If you need that much juice to make gains,(especially for a first cycle) you must have some pretty shitty genetics. If you had a clue what you were talking about you would know that a gram of test a week for a novice gives him a pretty shitty risk to benifit ratio. Sit down and shut up.
 
acutally Iron lion said that dbol at 75 mg a day was required in his stack...for a novice. I have no idea what you're thinking, but I can't figure out how 1 gram of test a week, and 75 mg of d-bol add up to 100 mg of a day. Now I don't know about anyone else, but 75 mg a day of d-bol seems pretty excessive on its own. By the way Iron lions "active level" is way above his IQ.
 
by shooting every other day there is not going to be a gram in your system in one week EVER you fucking moron...your active levels will stay at around 100 mg per day making the most you'll see in a week 700 mg. Now since the levels are kept even this is the safest and most effective way to grow with sus.

as far as my genetics well lets see I was 260 lbs with 8% bf and a 365 lb power clean natural...I played four years of division one football on a full scholarship and started every game even as a true freshman, yah i guess my genetics are pretty shitty, fuck I'm only 6'3'' and 315 lbs at 12% i got screwed

oh and you little jubitch, you like to talk shit don't you?
well I guess it is good that you do it here where your safe...
yah i'm not the guy doing quarter reps on the leg press to "bring up" his quads, or tricep kickbacks for reps, no see i'm the guy in the back of the gym squattin 700 for triples below parallel with no fucking wraps, I'm the guy you'd never talk shit to in real life cause i'm twice the man you'll never be
 
8 weeks...

1-8 Test Cypionate @ 200mgs twice a week
1-5 D-Bol @ 20-30mgs a day (taken every 4 to 6 hours with food)

Keep your protein intake up at 200 grams minimum daily
Eat smaller portions frequently throughout the day
Drink plenty of water (like a gallon a day)

Keep Nolvadex on hand in case of gyno (you may just want to run 10-20mgs/day just in case)
Or, to keep bloat off and keep drugs from aromatising, just take liquidex at .25-.50mgs/day (if money isn't an object - nolvadex is cheaper)
Of course follow up with clomid

You should do VERY nicely with that cycle!
 
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I would never go 8 weeks on dbol. 3 weeks to jump start a sus cycle is a good cycle. 500mg sustanon 250 a week. I am not much for long cycles. I guess I have been reading to many of realgains and nelson's posts about 4 and 3 week cycles are starting to make more sense to me! :D Unless you are competing then you have to do things a lot different.
 
Easy big fella. Talk is cheap, and twice the man...oh my. 265 natural, thats something, and me only 185, I feel terrible. You see, if I wanted to be say 300lbs of steroid powered freak I too would inject 1 gram of test a week and take 75 mg of d-bol every day. You are a roid raging cheese dick. How big are your nuts?? What like raisins...damn really?? My dick is 9 inches, how about you orange juice? You know where its going too don't cha big guy. Of course you do, open up. You'll be the cryin lion when I'm through with you.
 
jubei said:
My dick is 9 inches, how about you orange juice?

Hey Jewbitch, the measurement doesn't start from your anus

as far as my nut size i don't know I thought i'd let you be the judge since you'll get a real good look when I tea bag drag on your ass...lets be honest now if we were cell mates you'd be the one with titties tattooed on his back and pool cue chalk for eyeshadow, cryin for a fucking reach around....fucking pussy
 
glad you liked my reply. Don't be jealous, I don't have to lie. Italians are just hung like that. Go ask you mom.
 
This is my favorite bulking cycle:

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 6: 30mg of D-bol ED
Week 1 to 10: 600mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 750mg of Test
Week 11 to 12: 500ius of HCG and 20mg of Nolvadex ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*
 
Hey Jewbitch, the measurement doesn't start from your anus

as far as my nut size i don't know I thought i'd let you be the judge since you'll get a real good look when I tea bag drag on your ass...lets be honest now if we were cell mates you'd be the one with titties tattooed on his back and pool cue chalk for eyeshadow, cryin for a fucking reach around....fucking pussy


Oh my god, one spelling mistake on a post. You dumb piece of shit you wanna play that game? Fuck, your whole post was a big run on sentence. You stupid bastard. Damn don't be mad cause you have a small dick. Too bad you can't work on that in the gym. See if you can satisfy a woman with your biceps. Good luck.
 
your girl was satisfied, why do you think she's been so loose lately?

Why do insist on making this a flame about dick size? Is there something you need to tell me. Are you playing for the pink team sweetie?
 
Man why dont the 2 of you shut up! Everyone is big and tough behind the computer. Ironlion, I do believe that you are offering too large dosages for a first cycle. Remeber that what you use would probably be waaaaay overkill for a newbie.

Now ... everyone knows that for years the "classic" bulk cycle always consisted of test, deca and dbol. This is a very simple, generic cycle, but it will put on the bulk. If I were you, I would swap the deca for EQ, and try lower dosages, unless you are a super skinny kid that has a really hard time gaining. I would try this if you want to gain some mass on a first cycle.

wks 1-10
Sust - 250/wk
EQ - 400/wk
Dbol - 30 mgs/day - (for weeks 1 - 4)

Tuns of protein, and the appropriate training and resting. If you really insist on upping the dosages, you can bump the sust up to 500mg/wk. If you are plannning on juicing further down the road, remember that you will only want to up your dosages, that it why I would start out a low as possible while still achieving decent gains.

Good Luck,
Mavy
 
Damn, everyone else with a brain is suggesting a very similar cycle to me. I rest my case. If you can bet good gains with 250 mg of sust a week, stick to that. Otherwise you could try 250 mg every five days. 500 mg a week isn't a huge amount, but its best to go with the least amount possible while still making good gains. Eq is a good replacement for deca, but for bulking deca would still be my drug of choice to stack with sust and d-bol.
 
jubei said:
Hey Jewbitch, the measurement doesn't start from your anus

as far as my nut size i don't know I thought i'd let you be the judge since you'll get a real good look when I tea bag drag on your ass...lets be honest now if we were cell mates you'd be the one with titties tattooed on his back and pool cue chalk for eyeshadow, cryin for a fucking reach around....fucking pussy


Oh my god, one spelling mistake on a post. You dumb piece of shit you wanna play that game? Fuck, your whole post was a big run on sentence. You stupid bastard. Damn don't be mad cause you have a small dick. Too bad you can't work on that in the gym. See if you can satisfy a woman with your biceps. Good luck.

Dude, go find another board. This flame throwing BS is not appropriate here. Grow the fuck up and cut the BS! :mad:
 
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