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BD prop ouch!!

maccer

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first shot last night in the delt! OMFG in pain today!! Does baking really help it? does it damage the gear? Anh ideas on something I could cut it with to lessen the pain?
 
I think he meant baking but dude, I'm on it right now, all you need to do is both glutes and both quads and roate that cycle.. do it right after you get out of the shower and then stretch all those lower muscles for 30 seconds.... its really not that bad and it goes in a lot easier after you get out the shower...
 
danymal04 said:
I think he meant baking but dude, I'm on it right now, all you need to do is both glutes and both quads and roate that cycle.. do it right after you get out of the shower and then stretch all those lower muscles for 30 seconds.... its really not that bad and it goes in a lot easier after you get out the shower...
thats exactly how i do it and no pain whatsoever but i use LSP prop :)
 
Using BD Prop myself right now. Yes, baking it makes it painless, and yes, it still works great.

Bake at 175 degrees F for 20 minutes. Let cool 30 minutes. Repeat cycle two more times.

Note: Be sure to put a pin (not the whole syringe) through the top of the vial and just barely penetrate the rubber stopper...don't let the pin touch the liquid. The goal is to just let the benzyl alcohol evaporate a bit and vent out through the pin.

On a side note, however, I don't know that I would take it in the delts. Quads and glutes in my opinion work best for oil based injections. Maybe that's just me, though. I don't like to use the larger pins anywhere except quads and glutes (and I have a slight preference for the glutes).
 
See I was under the impression that prop hurt due to the fact it crystalized in the muscle. If baking it works like what you say then why doesn't everyone just do it?
 
Hmmmm..... Not sure if boiling off the BA is a good idea...... The BA is in there to keep bacteria out, so boiling it off increases risk of infection.... I guess if youre shooting it ED, that shouldn't be a problem, but if youre not using it very quickly, best to leave the BA in there......

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Hmmmm..... Not sure if boiling off the BA is a good idea...... The BA is in there to keep bacteria out, so boiling it off increases risk of infection.... I guess if youre shooting it ED, that shouldn't be a problem, but if youre not using it very quickly, best to leave the BA in there......

rizz

I knew there was a catch
 
5/9 ('F - 32') ='C ....I think that is the conversion formula.
Listen to Prizz's advise!!!He is right....I had said this numerous time too, The BA is there for a few reasons..and a biggy is pathogens. Burn it off per injection..not all at once. Yes, this is being anal but it works, and it keeps everything else from getting screwed up.
 
thanks for the replies id I don't bake should I mix with something, I am a little concerned as I cooked it at 150 C will this have ruined the gear?
 
maccer said:
thanks for the replies id I don't bake should I mix with something, I am a little concerned as I cooked it at 150 C will this have ruined the gear?

It won't ruin the gear. 175 degrees F is not sufficient to make the BA boil...it just makes some of it evaporate (you wouldn't want to boil it...that WOULD ruin the gear). it doesn't completely eliminate it.
 
I just finished a cycle using UG lab prop and it was the most painful shit known to man. Heating it up to near boiling before injecting and a good 5 minute deep massage before and after shot did help a bit, but holy shit I was limping around for basically the entire cycle looking like I had to take a phat dump. Always having to make up excuses. I'm sure people had to have been saying to themselves, I wonder why his injuries he got playing football don't seem to ever heal?? :)
 
yea i would not bake it. the ba is in there for a reason you konw bro..... just though it out
 
danymal04 said:
I think he meant baking but dude, I'm on it right now, all you need to do is both glutes and both quads and roate that cycle.. do it right after you get out of the shower and then stretch all those lower muscles for 30 seconds.... its really not that bad and it goes in a lot easier after you get out the shower...


thats exactly what i was gonna say cuz i am on it also..... its not that bad in the quads or glutes.

ksbst9mm
 
interleukin 1 said:
5/9 ('F - 32') ='C ....I think that is the conversion formula.
Listen to Prizz's advise!!!He is right....I had said this numerous time too, The BA is there for a few reasons..and a biggy is pathogens. Burn it off per injection..not all at once. Yes, this is being anal but it works, and it keeps everything else from getting screwed up.


Now this is a good idea, but how the hell do you bake each injection? Load up the syringe and put it in the oven? Give me the recipe plz, I wanna hear how you do this..... Give me step by step instructions plz.... Very interesting idea Leukin.....

rizz
 
Prizz said:
Now this is a good idea, but how the hell do you bake each injection? Load up the syringe and put it in the oven? Give me the recipe plz, I wanna hear how you do this..... Give me step by step instructions plz.... Very interesting idea Leukin.....

rizz
maybe use an empty vial and bake a few cc's at a time. then you wouldn't have to worry about the plunger melting.
 
Dannomight just threw a stike!!!!! You can use the empty vial!
Like I said, my method is "anal" but I can't figure out a better way...yet!
Here is my method. I hope someone can put it to good use.

Step one. Draw out 1ml (or how ever much you want to use at that time....lords know what dosages some maniacs use now-a-days) using a sterile syringe or pippette.

Step two. Place drawn Prop into STERILE flask, culture tube, or plate (these should be made of glass or ceramic to with stand heat...you can order these from any labware catalog)...I guess if you are in a hurry or a cheap ass, you can even squirt the prop on a metal spoon like a crack-head....just be sure to sterilze with ethanol before using it.
Step three. Bake Prop (make sure your heat source area is a somewhat sterile enviornment, and we don't need a class 100 lab bench here but use your head).

Step four. Let the prop cool down a little while before you draw up.....but keep it in the half-ass sterile enviornment as it cools down. YOU DO NOT WANT TO PUT INTO A POSITION WHERE ANY CONTAMINATION CAN BE INTRODUCED....Remember pathogens are friggin' everywhere. And you just took away the tool that keeps yukky grems from growing in your stuff. If you use a sealed container like a vial, such as Dannomight suggested, you can be a little laxed at this point...otherwise this is very important.

Remember three main things.
1. Flash point of BA is pretty low so you do not need a high temp for a long period of time.

2. Just practice aspetic techniquie......9th grade physical science class will start to pay off.

3. Using the prop when still hot (injecting directly after baking) will destroy the pluger and melt some of the rubber due to the heat of the prop itself. Not a good thing to inject with!
 
i did a shot with prop and fina in my quad yesterday and i can barely walk or get in/out of my car, let alone workout. i had to take percocet to help...idk how im gonna get through 10 more weeks.
 
liftr486 said:
i did a shot with prop and fina in my quad yesterday and i can barely walk or get in/out of my car, let alone workout. i had to take percocet to help...idk how im gonna get through 10 more weeks.

that's why i have never used prop i just don't think i can make it through a cycle because i could barely make it through shooting sus250 eod much less the straight prop
 
i got like 10 vials of rsoc sustanon blend that im thinking of switching too...but then i got all this prop thats worthless then
 
liftr486 said:
i got like 10 vials of rsoc sustanon blend that im thinking of switching too...but then i got all this prop thats worthless then
I used to work with another bro with the same issues you have with the prop....very senative to the BA in it. He switched over to Cytoho...spelled somthing like that (russian sus in amp)..and he still felt it. Kinda sucks. But then again, you are not reacting to the active drug, in this case the prop..you are reacting to the Benzyl alcohol...prop just requires a boat load to keep soluable. Just pretend you are working at dunkin' donuts and BAKE IT bro! If you do it right you will get all the benifits, w/out the insane pain and throbbing at the injection site. Really it isn't hard..just tedious.
 
I have baked it again!! did a quad shot yesterday in my quad no pain at the time - by the evening am hobbling like an old man, still got a rock solid lump on my arse! This is hampering my training!! Hoping that I will get used to it
 
when I was usin bd pro I would only put a half cc mixed with tren or eq in one spot. I wouldn't even draw more than a half cc of prop in the syringe. If I drew one cc and tried to mix it with something and even do 2 shots in 2 different places 1 of the 2 spots would be killing me.
I'm gonna try farmak prop next. Hopefully it wont kill like other types have.
 
Are the brands of propionate you guys are having issues with from an underground source? If you are baking it enough to remove the BA....it should not hurt. The BA should be long gone. Try pulling out 1ml onto a sterile metal vial or plate. Bring a heat source close enough for the prop to actually ignite the 1ml of juice on the plate. Then quickly extingish the flame. It is a last resort meathod and you may have possibly altered the active agent with the flash of a intense heat source but maybe it will work for you. Again....Your cells are not responding with pain because of the prop...they are reacting to the high Benzyl Alcohol. Other then this I can figure out what is wrong nor give you any other suggestions. I hope it works for you fellas.
 
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