hey you guys im really trying to work on my deadlift form, yes i have read the articles over at www.elitefts.com and t-mag so you dont need to give me those. what i am wondering is your shoulders should be behind the bar, when i did this if you are supposed to pull with your shoulders first then start to use the hips wont it just pull the bar back behind the shoulders newayz if you are supposed to have the bar a little in front of your shins. newayz can someone just give me some pointers on waht to look for in my movement and set up, and also b fold do u have any pictures of you in your setup for deadlifts?