Avoiding water retention on Dbol

[Lou Super Man 123]

From what I'v read the minimum dose of Dbol is 20mg, with the majority of users dosing 50mg with a max of 100mg.

Yeah and I have read that you need more than 200 gr of protein a day to build muscle, that cardio burns muscle, that you need to bulk and cut to get big, that when you cut you lose muscle, that you have to eat every 3 hours to gain muscle, that you have to gain fat to gain muscle, that you don't absorb more than 30 gr of protein per meal, that you need more to 48 hours to repair a muscle, that you can't train more than 1 hour, that you can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, etc etc etc.

So 10mg would be pointless, but yes you would avoid the bloat and the gains!

Prove it.

 

[Reps For Jesus]

10 mg of D-Bol would give you some gains, but I think 20-30 mg a day is more of an ideal dosage. I don't think you would become a bloated mess by any means.

 

[superturkey]

Running a reasonable dose for test
is the biggest factor for me.. I've run dbol up to 50mg with low dose test and bloat was minimal

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Yes good point, avoid high doses of two strong aromitizing steroids.





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[superturkey]

Yeah and I have read that you need more than 200 gr of protein a day to build muscle, that cardio burns muscle, that you need to bulk and cut to get big, that when you cut you lose muscle, that you have to eat every 3 hours to gain muscle, that you have to gain fat to gain muscle, that you don't absorb more than 30 gr of protein per meal, that you need more to 48 hours to repair a muscle, that you can't train more than 1 hour, that you can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, etc etc etc.



Prove it.

I cannot PROVE it, but I can do research which suggests you are wrong.

In order to kick start a Dianabol cycle, usually what you do is incorporate a fast acting oral like Dianabol (or anadrol) and combine it with long acting injectables (such as Deca or Eq with some Testosterone). The reasoning here is that the oral (Dbol in this case) will give almost immediate results, while the injectable takes time to produce results. The end result is that you start seeing results within the first week of your cycle and continue up until the end with the injectables. This entails taking anywhere from 25-50mgs of dbol (although as little as 20mgs or as much as 100mgs have been reported) for 3-6 weeks at the start of a cycle (average time for a "Kick Start" is 4 weeks, though), and then ceasing their use as the injectables start to produce results.

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The dosage range for Dianabol is typically 20-50 mg/day. Unlike most injectables, little further benefit occurs from going beyond this milligram amount. If wishing more effect, the answer is instead to add another anabolic steroid. My preference is for dosing to be 3-5 times per day, but some prefer to use it only once per day.

-Bill Roberts

If you've never supplemented with a particular anabolic steroid before, it's always best to keep the dose rather low your first go around in-order to ensure you do not run into trouble. You need to find out how you respond to a particular steroid, and in this case, if your Dbol dosage is too high and you run into problems you're only going to bring extra and unneeded stress onto your body. With this in mind, 10mg per day will provide androgen replacement, but for a true anabolic effect you're going to need a Dbol dosage of 20mg per day. This is a perfect dose for a newbie; 25mg per day can be considered, but you really shouldn't exceed this point. Further, while it may be low, such a dose is guaranteed to see your mass and strength increase significantly if you provide adequate calories; it may be low, but it's far from weak. Moreover, for many it may be all the Dianabol they ever need or desire, and if that's the case, such a Dbol dosage will provide the gains you desire each and every time.

-Dbol.com


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[Jbranken]

Yeah and I have read that you need more than 200 gr of protein a day to build muscle, that cardio burns muscle, that you need to bulk and cut to get big, that when you cut you lose muscle, that you have to eat every 3 hours to gain muscle, that you have to gain fat to gain muscle, that you don't absorb more than 30 gr of protein per meal, that you need more to 48 hours to repair a muscle, that you can't train more than 1 hour, that you can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time, etc etc etc.



Prove it.

We get it, there's a lot of broscience regarding bodybuilding out there. But, every person is different and some of the things you mentioned are in fact true for some people. Are you implying that there's some sort of cookie cutter formula that works for all of us or suggesting that our genetic makeups are all the same?

As far as dbol goes, it does bloat most guys because it aromatizes. Why do you keep telling people it doesn't when you've never used this steroid? Not trying to be a dick at all, I'm just confused. Experienced cyclers in this thread are saying it clearly bloats, but you refuse to believe it. Why?

 

[superturkey]

Although this thread has taken a strange turn, I am happy to integrate Dbol into my next cycle, taking a lower dose of test and daily Aromasin into consideration.
Ramping Dbol from 20mg to a level I am satisfied with.

Thanks for the help


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[Nelson Montana]

Take less.

 

[Mh48500]

Although this thread has taken a strange turn, I am happy to integrate Dbol into my next cycle, taking a lower dose of test and daily Aromasin into consideration.
Ramping Dbol from 20mg to a level I am satisfied with.

Thanks for the help


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Good decision. You need to take into consideration that everyone reacts different to every compound, and until you run it you cant be sure of the exact reaction.

Before my 1st Dbol run I was sure I would blow up like a ballon, moon face, etc..no it didnt happen. I began with 50mgs a day and needed to drop it to 25 for other reasons(appetite), a retained an incredibly minimal amount of water. I didnt even look soft, it made me look very full.

You need to be prepared obviously if you do react that way, but that doesnt mean you might react extremely well.

 

[superturkey]

Good decision. You need to take into consideration that everyone reacts different to every compound, and until you run it you cant be sure of the exact reaction.

Before my 1st Dbol run I was sure I would blow up like a ballon, moon face, etc..no it didnt happen. I began with 50mgs a day and needed to drop it to 25 for other reasons(appetite), a retained an incredibly minimal amount of water. I didnt even look soft, it made me look very full.

You need to be prepared obviously if you do react that way, but that doesnt mean you might react extremely well.

This is way I hope to react, I have heard of guys popping dbol like TicTacs and ripped as hell still.
All the strength, size and minimal bloat is how I hope it goes.


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[Jbranken]

This is way I hope to react, I have heard of guys popping dbol like TicTacs and ripped as hell still.
All the strength, size and minimal bloat is how I hope it goes.


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Hopefully it works out for you. It has a lot to do with your body type and conditioning prior to using dbol as well. If you're already ripped, dbol will certainly make you look fuller without the bloated look