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no athlete should get paid over one millon dollars a year, they do not deserve any more then that !!! tell these babies to go work in the real world if they do not like that salary !!! oh I forgot, half these guys cannot read :worried: I am so sick of hearing these sob stories by overpaid athletes. money hungry, no love for the game bitches !!! I know the owners make the loot and that is why the athletes are complaining but I think the whole sports world should be overhauled to lower all costs. it is getting out of hand !!! there are better players all over just dying to get the chance to prove themselves.

if a fireman, paramedic, doctor, police officer, teacher etc is not getting paid that much, some asshole putting a ball in a hoop or puck in the net should not be making that kind of money.

what sick sick sick world......

and yes i know the owners are making all the money, but I am talking about lowering the cost of everything related to sports (TICKETS, MERCHANDISE ETC)
 
They get paid according to what they generate for the business they are employed by... you bring a gazillion because you are Deion of Nazareth? you get the golden urinal, that simple.

You want a hankie? Cause yer cryin' like a biatch is messing up the furniture.
 
ChefWide said:
They get paid according to what they generate for the business they are employed by... you bring a gazillion because you are Deion of Nazareth? you get the golden urinal, that simple.

You want a hankie? Cause yer cryin' like a biatch is messing up the furniture.
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Agreed to an extent.........they should get paid according to the stats they put up..........pay them AFTER the season according to productivity and how much of an asset they are to the club.......screw this 10 year 120 million bs.....you rush for 1,000 yards, avg. a double double, bat .325 with 40 dingers, you get compensated...you have a shitty year and you get paid like us dweebs........very simple.
 
they still are overpaid..........

so what they generate millons ? why because everything is overpriced !!!

i hope your happy chef when you pay 80 bucks to go see a basketball or hockey game...... lame if you ask me.

like fans in toronto who paid big bucks to watch vince carter play half ass because he wanted a trade..... yah that is good. friggin overpaid baby !!!
 
mikeyboy604 said:
they still are overpaid..........

so what they generate millons ? why because everything is overpriced !!!

i hope your happy chef when you pay 80 bucks to go see a basketball or hockey game...... lame if you ask me.

like fans in toronto who paid big bucks to watch vince carter play half ass because he wanted a trade..... yah that is good. friggin overpaid baby !!!
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actually i am way to big an egghead/sissy boy to go to more than maybe one pro game every couple years.. only go to take my boys..

I do feel your pain and will admit that the sport will most likely implode under its own weight eventually.




BTW? who was in the superbowl?

:lmao:
 
Well, if everyone stopped going to pro games, watching pro games and buying pro team merchandise their salaries would drop. Their salaries are driven by demand for their services which is fueled by the demand of the consumers.
 
JavaGuru said:
Well, if everyone stopped going to pro games, watching pro games and buying pro team merchandise their salaries would drop. Their salaries are driven by demand for their services which is fueled by the demand of the consumers.
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When cigarettes hit 20 cents a pack, my grandfather said that, in no uncertain terms, the US public would NOT STAND FOR this kind of shit and would stop buying all tobacco products if they actually had the audacity to raise the prict to a quarter a pack.

hmmm...
 
same could be said for actors/actress or ceos, its all about how much $$$$$ they bring in for their services, whats tom cruise make now? at least 20 mil a film plus royalties im sure, and it only takes him about 4 months to make a film
 
then what about dudes like Carlos DelGado who produced every friggn year, but was stuck in a city where no one cared and ths had no attendance????
 
Bor,

Consider the "asses in the seats" test.

Anyone who puts asses in the seats will get paid big bucks. That's how it works. That's capitalism.

Did you bitch when the cast of Friends was making $1M per episode per actor?

Does it bother you that Oprah Winfrey makes more more every year than the entire payroll of any pro team?

These people put asses in the seats.

If you can do that, you can make the same money.

If it bothers you, don't watch / go.
 
considering the very small percentage of people skilled enough to make it to that level, I think they deserve, why let some rich white dude owners get all the money, more power to the athletes!
 
hamstershaver said:
same could be said for actors/actress or ceos, its all about how much $$$$$ they bring in for their services, whats tom cruise make now? at least 20 mil a film plus royalties im sure, and it only takes him about 4 months to make a film
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His movies to date have grossed over a 1.4 billion dollars. he gets whatever he wants. thats fine by me.

He is still short.
 
Its way out of control........One of the reasons i think america has many people that dont like us. the "normal" america lives a VERY lavish life comapred to the rest of the world. i see so many Benz,phorshe,hummers,vettes,ferraris,lambos is not even funny i am looking out the windo of the hotel that i work at and across the street is really about 400-800 properity's that are a 1mill+ (camelback mtn)AZ the rest of the world looks at that and think its disgusting and in a way it is. People will tell you that they have "worked for it" LOL what joke.


All pro sports should have a salary cap of 8million a yr

that is enough to live on for fuck sake


oh and then maby for familys would go to game's would not have to charge so much for 9$beer.


I would much reather watch people that wanted to play
 
ChefWide said:
His movies to date have grossed over a 1.4 billion dollars. he gets whatever he wants. thats fine by me.

He is still short.
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where is that article that said he will make a quarter billion from his salary + backend deal for War of the Worlds, unbelievable.

and chef if he weren't short he'd never be where he is today it is what gives him his drive :lmao:
 
If you think they are overpaid (regardless of who "they" are), vote with your $$$ and don't go or watch the games (or buy the merchandise). Capitalism is super-cool that way. Every single one of those green pieces of paper in your wallet is a vote.
 
So, if the athletes are overpaid ... what about the rich business asshole billionaires that buy the teams deserve keeping all that revenue instead? If and NFL team pulls in 2 billion dollars in profit, that profit is mostly gained through the talent and sportsmanship of the players and coaching staff. The people didn't show up, buy tickets, etc, because they support the owner or group of owners. They support the players and the people that make the game what it is, and thats not directly the fat cats up in the box seats.

To me, morally the athletes should get a majority of the profits. They should get an agreed upon salary, representing an investment by the team, then if they have a really good season at the end of the year they should get bonuses that offset the profits of the team as a whole.

I'm not saying the owners, investors, or whoever do not deserve a good share of money for their 'investment' but they should not walk away with a huge percentage of the profits when the players receive a much smaller ammount.
 
These guys can draw $300 million a year to the city and the team.

How much can you draw? How much money can other people make off of you?

*value* and *worth* are loaded questions.

A police officer or doctor, in society's eyes, is obviously more _valuable_ than a burger king employee.

but a top-notch basketball player is obvioulys _worth_ more than all of them cuz millions will pay millions to go see him shoot some balls.
 
Athletes generate HUNDERDS OF MILLIONS of dollars a year for their employer. This is why they are payed TENS OF MILLIONS a year.

Doctors, policemen, etc., while more valuable to society, generate nothing close to that amount for their employer. Therefore, they are payed less. Stop complaining, communist
 
I think every athlete should be paid the same then have an incentive package based on their performance. Away with signing bonuses.
Then they can have a review of their performance every year to see if they warrant a 1%-5% raise.
Never gonna happen, the lowest paid, most useless player in the NFL makes way more than the top teacher does in 5.
Message: Force your kids in sports and drive them relentlessly to succeed.
See: Tiger.
 
Hey guys, why the bombs? I said that communist comment as a joke, all in jest. I've never gotten red K in my life before this, as I try to keep most of my posts friendly and helpfull. I didn't realize you'd take the thing as an attack, which it was not.

I havent read up on these bombs but hopefully they all expire :heart:

Green K to all of the bombers, to show how fantastic of a man I really am :)

EDIT: I hope this I don't get "bombed" whenever I say something MILDLY offensive, or whenevr I disagree with someone. If I do, might as well leave this board, because this whole thing is kind of getting to the point where it's a joke. I can't even make a joke without being "bombed" by three people..common
 
Phaded said:
atheltes earn every cent they get paid you fucking crybabies..
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exactly.

wanna whine at someone. Whine at those "artists" who put horribly shitty ass music (ashlee simpson, cough hack) and still walk away with $12 million.

eg: Mariah Carey who got paid $50 mill by Sony. put out a horribly shitty cd and movie. Got canned. Still go to keep her $50 _million_.
 
Razorguns said:
exactly.

wanna whine at someone. Whine at those "artists" who put horribly shitty ass music (ashlee simpson, cough hack) and still walk away with $12 million.

eg: Mariah Carey who got paid $50 mill by Sony. put out a horribly shitty cd and movie. Got canned. Still go to keep her $50 _million_.
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i believe they deserve their pay too.. its about making money with ashlee simpson they are using an image to make money.. those motherfuckers at geffens are fucking geniuses.. ash's simpson cd sold 2nd most out of any artist in 2004.. at around 3,400,000... usher was first with 8,200,000.. anyhow consider costs and figure how much money they made.. not to mention concerts etc.. only people that don't deserve
what they get paid are drug lords..
 
Phaded said:
i believe they deserve their pay too.. its about making money with ashlee simpson they are using an image to make money.. those motherfuckers at geffens are fucking geniuses.. ash's simpson cd sold 2nd most out of any artist in 2004.. at around 3,400,000... usher was first with 8,200,000.. anyhow consider costs and figure how much money they made.. not to mention concerts etc.. only people that don't deserve
what they get paid are drug lords..
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That's what it seems..

the reality is -- people buy the cd, and find out it SUCKS and get annoyed and now can't return it.

So what do they do?

They download music from the web. Hence, all the record company losses these days.

Perhaps if they went back to the days of TALENTED bands -- people would jump over hoops to BUY the cd, no matter what the cost. People of the bubble-gum generation have no idea what euphoria used to be when a record would get released, and people would storm in to buy it the first day. Ah, those were the days. :)
 
their salaries are funded by the people who pay to see them, watch them on TV (advertising), and buy merchandise. They deserve whatever the market is willing to pay them. If the public is willing to pay someone 100 million to swing a bat, its you who are the stupid one, not the player.
 
This is one I must apologize for.

I saw he called someone a communist and reacted. You are a good bro and should not have been bombed.

Please don't leave. I'll do what I can to make this up to you, I'd even buy you a free month of platinum if it meant you would stay.

Seriously, stick around.
 
CrazyRussian said:
Thanks a lot mate

I'll wait till the bombs wear off and continue posting. Don't worry bout it, twas just a misunderstanding. Alrighty then :coffee:
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the bombs will go away afte 24 hours, however the posts will stay blacked out for 48.

I'll see if I can hook you up with a free month of platinum tomorrow that should make the bombs go away immediately.

no hard feelings, hope you stay.
 
Phaded said:
only people that don't deserve
what they get paid are drug lords..
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They (drug lords) only get paid so much because of prohibition. That's a very interesting comment coming from a member of these (primarily AAS based) forums.
 
i will get you green when i recharge russiancrazydude........... I just take that communist crap serious.... but i know you were joking, so it is all good !!!
 
SacStateHornet said:
their salaries are funded by the people who pay to see them, watch them on TV (advertising), and buy merchandise. They deserve whatever the market is willing to pay them. If the public is willing to pay someone 100 million to swing a bat, its you who are the stupid one, not the player.
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Agree 100%.

Stick around, new guy. :)
 
deltreefitness said:
They (drug lords) only get paid so much because of prohibition. That's a very interesting comment coming from a member of these (primarily AAS based) forums.
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i dont think steroid dealers make 1/1000th the money coke lords make..
 
Phaded said:
i dont think steroid dealers make 1/1000th the money coke lords make..
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Way bigger market.

Easier to advertise.

Addictive customers.

Collect Underpants

?

Big profits
 
Razorguns said:
Way bigger market.

Easier to advertise.

Addictive customers.

Collect Underpants

?

Big profits
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which is a way bigger market? if you are saying steroids over coke you are kindof dumb.
 
have you ever watched a sports game on TV? In person? bought a magazine because a sports figure you liked was in it?
well then you're a hipocrite...
its all supply and demand. They supply the talent that is demanded by everyone who watches the sports... which is a group that you're part of, like it or not.

also, Lebron James is a classic example of someone who is often called overpaid... well by the time he's 30 hes estimated to make $250 mill... but wanna hear something crazier? He stands to make the ppl he works for almost 2 BILLION by the time he's 30... so try and tell him hes overpaid
 
lebron james is the biggest media hype ever.... i was thinking he was gonna be as good as jordan but no one will ever come close to jordans skills
 
Granted, some of the get paid crazy amounts -but the money has to go to someone. Wouldn't you rather it was the players, rather than the team owner.
Second rate bball players seem to get paid far too much.

- I think this is more evident in US sports, but then again they generate more money, because they have a bigger, wealthier audience.

True athletes (track and field) don't get payed anywhere near enough - it's all about the commercial aspect.
 
SPORT SCIENTIST said:
Granted, some of the get paid crazy amounts -but the money has to go to someone. Wouldn't you rather it was the players, rather than the team owner.
Second rate bball players seem to get paid far too much.

- I think this is more evident in US sports, but then again they generate more money, because they have a bigger, wealthier audience.

True athletes (track and field) don't get payed anywhere near enough - it's all about the commercial aspect.
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are you saying that basketball and football players aren't true athletes?
 
Phaded said:
are you saying that basketball and football players aren't true athletes?
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No, they are highly skilled sportsmen - It's just that in my opinion most track and field is pure athleticism (mostly requiring no equipment)
The top track athletes train harder than other sports, with there being an incredibly fine line between success and failure. Whats more they don't get paid anywhere near as much, and have to be 100% dedicated in order to succeed. What's more, only the very highest echelon of track/field athletes make a lot of money, meaning that most do it for the sense of achievement- something that is missing in a lot of professional sportsmen, who are often motivated by money, women and sometimes illicit drugs. Track athletes have to be 100% disciplined in order to succeed - not like some other sports, where the athletes throw a hissy fit over being dropped, or argue with their coaches.
 
look at the hockey world. it's the exact opposite.

none of you guys buy tickets. none of those players are marketable in hollywood. none of those players can appear in music videos or have their own shoe lines. none of them can do commercials for beer.

they have a lot less potential for money making -- and their dismal salaries represent it.
 
Razorguns said:
look at the hockey world. it's the exact opposite.

none of you guys buy tickets. none of those players are marketable in hollywood. none of those players can appear in music videos or have their own shoe lines. none of them can do commercials for beer.

they have a lot less potential for money making -- and their dismal salaries represent it.
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in Toronto, theres like a 5 year waiting list for seasons tickets

and although hockey players on average make less than basketball players, their average salaries are still way higher than most doctors and lawyers could ever get
 
sigweed said:
in Toronto, theres like a 5 year waiting list for seasons tickets

and although hockey players on average make less than basketball players, their average salaries are still way higher than most doctors and lawyers could ever get
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I think Toronto and maybe Vancouver are the only ones actually making _decent_ profits right now in the NHL. Every other team is struggling financially. Not a ripe environment for "high" salaries to make an apperance. This NHL lockout shouldn't be a surprise.
 
SPORT SCIENTIST said:
No, they are highly skilled sportsmen - It's just that in my opinion most track and field is pure athleticism (mostly requiring no equipment)
The top track athletes train harder than other sports, with there being an incredibly fine line between success and failure. Whats more they don't get paid anywhere near as much, and have to be 100% dedicated in order to succeed. What's more, only the very highest echelon of track/field athletes make a lot of money, meaning that most do it for the sense of achievement- something that is missing in a lot of professional sportsmen, who are often motivated by money, women and sometimes illicit drugs. Track athletes have to be 100% disciplined in order to succeed - not like some other sports, where the athletes throw a hissy fit over being dropped, or argue with their coaches.
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come watch preseason nfl practice and tell me who trains harder..
 
Phaded said:
lebron james is the biggest media hype ever.... i was thinking he was gonna be as good as jordan but no one will ever come close to jordans skills
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Wilt Chamberlian averaged 50/26 in 1961...just something to think about. Oscar Robertson averaged 30/12/11 that same season. Just something to think about.
 
I still can't believe you people are drinking bottle of cough syrup for DXM. There's so much other in that that causes neusea and many other awful (and sometimes dangerous) side-effects. You can find instructions to extract and filter almost pure DXM.
 
CrazyRussian said:
Wilt Chamberlian averaged 50/26 in 1961...just something to think about. Oscar Robertson averaged 30/12/11 that same season. Just something to think about.
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the rules were also different back then.. they didn't even have a fucking 3 second rule.. and 2nd the competition back then was fucking horrible.. with that being said no one will ever be as good as jordan.. 31 career average vs good competition.. inclusive to his average are his 2 horrible seasons on the wizards..
 
Roberston averaged 26/8/10 for his career
Wilt averaged 30/22/4 for his career
Jordan Averaged 30/6/5

From a PURELY statistical POV, Robertson and Wilt both had better careers. Also, the statement that Jordan had MUCH better competition is, IMHO, not fully true. Nowadays, a player who plays DEFENSE is seen as a luxury...same thing with a player who can actually shoot the ball any good. Back then, the game was much more skill-oriented, and people generally defended better.
 
lets see more athleticism now.. better training regimine's better coaches more knowledge of the game.. also back then 75% of the nba was fucking white that was around the time that african americans were still having a hard time living in the us with racism etc.. if you notice now.. the entire nba is almost all black people the entire nfl is almost all black people.. with that being said.. what a video of bob cousy and try and tell me he back then was as good as steve nash is now.. you need to get a clue..
 
OK dude first of all I think we can do without the personal attacks...

So, you're saying that the NBA is "better" now because it has more athleticism? Who gives a shit about athleticism. Stromile Swift is perhaps the most athletic player in the league, what's he done? I'd take a player with good fundamentals and defense (ie Peja, Nash, Duncan, Ray Allen, etc) over an athletic freak (ie the ten billion players that jump from high school straight to the pros) any day.

Your point about the NBA having more black people is correct...however, I fail to see how it proves that the NBA today is better than the NBA of old.

Better coachers and more knowledge of the game? RIIIIIGHT. You think Steve Francis has the same "knowledge of the game" as Rick Barry? You think T-Mac has the same "knowldege of the game" as Larry Bird? You're kidding yourself.
 
lol...track athletes work harder then football players...

what a load of crap...now i have heard it all. The only crybabies are those skimpy 800m quarter squat mofos who have to miss a race because they 'pulled' their hammie.
 
Sebass67 said:
lol...track athletes work harder then football players...

what a load of crap...now i have heard it all. The only crybabies are those skimpy 800m quarter squat mofos who have to miss a race because they 'pulled' their hammie.
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You have to admit that you can get away with a less than 100% effort in US football, and other team sports
- not so in athletics, rowing, tennis or other individual sports, where the margin between success and failure is so small.

To be the fastest man in the world over 800m to me is much more of an achievement than being the leading runing back in the NFL
- don't play US football, but have played rugby for years.

Your last comment is daft.
 
Sebass67 said:
lol...track athletes work harder then football players...

what a load of crap...now i have heard it all. The only crybabies are those skimpy 800m quarter squat mofos who have to miss a race because they 'pulled' their hammie.
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You have to admit that you can get away with a less than 100% effort in US football, and other team sports
- not so in athletics, rowing, tennis or other individual sports, where the margin between success and failure is so small.

To be the fastest man in the world over 800m to me is much more of an achievement than being the leading runing back in the NFL
- don't play US football, but have played rugby for years.

Your last comment is daft - Jonathon Edwards was a 70kg man, who could clean 160kg
 
CrazyRussian said:
OK dude first of all I think we can do without the personal attacks...

So, you're saying that the NBA is "better" now because it has more athleticism? Who gives a shit about athleticism. Stromile Swift is perhaps the most athletic player in the league, what's he done? I'd take a player with good fundamentals and defense (ie Peja, Nash, Duncan, Ray Allen, etc) over an athletic freak (ie the ten billion players that jump from high school straight to the pros) any day.

Your point about the NBA having more black people is correct...however, I fail to see how it proves that the NBA today is better than the NBA of old.

Better coachers and more knowledge of the game? RIIIIIGHT. You think Steve Francis has the same "knowledge of the game" as Rick Barry? You think T-Mac has the same "knowldege of the game" as Larry Bird? You're kidding yourself.
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do you think rick barry and larry bird played games vs wilt chamberlain and oscar robertson.. maybe they did they were prob. 10 years old at the time playing in the nba cause any garbage ass player could get into the nba.. i bet a good college team now would crush all the teams of the era you think is so great..
 
and stromile swift is about as athletic as kenny rogers.. lebron james is by far the most athletic player in the league..
 
L. James i awesome. NBA has been Shit since Jordan retired. its good to see the nba of late 80's coming back. running 'n gunning, a lot of fun to watch. even though im not much of a fan until about the semi-finals.......when the big boys start playing.
 
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