At my gym tonight... "The Squatters"

[Citruscide]

Ok, I don't slam on nobody... and I might not even slam on these kids, because they could have been doing a form of a squat I'm not familar with.

First off, they did the squats from a standing position, until their knees were bent slightly, and then stood back up. The entire ROM was around 6-8" if that..

these guys were probably around 160lbs-175lbs respectively... and finished up their sets with 405lbs... with the same 6" range of motion.

I'm not sure if that is some sort of squat or not. But if I did that with weight, I don't think my legs would even feel it...

To top it off... one guy removed all the weights on one side while the other was removing them slower... so basically 2 45 plates crashed to the floor flipping the bar and caused a HUGE brew haha... I of course, gave them a standing ovation.

C-ditty

 

[RusPA81]

Maybe there some new style of squating that hasn't gotten around to us yet. I have a similar guy at my gym. He loves to finish of 3-4 reps of 455, going down maybe 4-5 inches. On top of that he has someone spot him for these so they are mostly forced. The best part is people stare at him and since most people have no clue about how to lift they think this guy is real strong and he walks around like he is the biggest thing in the gym, when his legs are literally smaller then my arms. Maybe there some new style of squating that hasn't gotten around to us yet.

 

[Citruscide]

yeah, these guys quads were smaller than my 18.5" inch calves no joke... I could squat their way as much weight as my back could hold!

C-ditty

 

[gettinlarger]

Ha. I was doing some stiff legged deads last week and this kid, maybe 150 pounds, was squatting 215, with the same ROM you described. I really wanted to say something, you know, to help the kid. But then I looked over and he was gone. He did like 2 sets. Like 5 crappy reps each. And to top that off, he left all the weight on the bar. What a gay pile of gay.

 

[RusPA81]

It is scary to watch too. I was just waiting for the guys knees to tear and then him getting crushed under the weight. I wonder if these people actually believe that they are doing something beneficial.

 

[DrBones]

This drives me just insane.. I want to go over and tell the kids how to do it... but who am i to give some kids advice at the gym....

The two kids that I see are from some local sports team... they both toss on around 300 lbs and don't even come CLOSE to going parrallel... Oh well.. bottom line is they are only cheating themselves

 

[louden_swain]

I guess my gym is different. It is really rare to witness an idiotic scene such as this. You have guys that squat or don't squat at all. Most guys squat to or just above parallel. Most of the lighter guys squat with lighter weights, but with good form. Overall, a lot of people squat and deadlift at the gym. Its a good site.

 

[needsize]

Ok, I don't slam on nobody... and I might not even slam on these kids, because they could have been doing a form of a squat I'm not familar with.

First off, they did the squats from a standing position, until their knees were bent slightly, and then stood back up. The entire ROM was around 6-8" if that..

these guys were probably around 160lbs-175lbs respectively... and finished up their sets with 405lbs... with the same 6" range of motion.

I'm not sure if that is some sort of squat or not. But if I did that with weight, I don't think my legs would even feel it...

To top it off... one guy removed all the weights on one side while the other was removing them slower... so basically 2 45 plates crashed to the floor flipping the bar and caused a HUGE brew haha... I of course, gave them a standing ovation.

C-ditty

There are a few in my gym like that too, over 6" tall and 160lbs soaking wet with oil. The first time I saw it i was squatting on the rack next to them. I went 5x5 on 405lbs, ass right to the floor. They worked up to the same weight, but were shakking so bad when they stepped out with the weight that the other guy would have to hold onto his waist to keep him still. They then did a few reps with a 4-5" ROM, racked it making all kinds of noise, then swaggered past me while trying to stare me down.
The funny thing was that even if they were doing it properly, who cares....I squat for big legs, these guys both had legs like ostriches, but it was funny either way

 

[Citruscide]

Re: Re: At my gym tonight... "The Squatters"

There are a few in my gym like that too, over 6" tall and 160lbs soaking wet with oil. The first time I saw it i was squatting on the rack next to them. I went 5x5 on 405lbs, ass right to the floor. They worked up to the same weight, but were shakking so bad when they stepped out with the weight that the other guy would have to hold onto his waist to keep him still. They then did a few reps with a 4-5" ROM, racked it making all kinds of noise, then swaggered past me while trying to stare me down.
The funny thing was that even if they were doing it properly, who cares....I squat for big legs, these guys both had legs like ostriches, but it was funny either way

Yeah, these guys thought they were big shit lifting the weights... I was doing 315 on barbell rows behind them... it was funny... they were swaggering, but you could tell... they were impressed with their 15" legs.

C-ditty

 

[JoBu]

What a gay pile of gay.

 

[bignate73]

they are in every gym. the lurk in their wife beaters and huge shorts. they have frosted hair, and wear airwalks barely laced up (clunky ones at that) to squat in. some have weight belts, some have lifting gloves. they take forever on whatever piece of equipment they use, and do fifty million sets.

its all good, my girlfriend makes them look like women when she outlifts them with good form.

touche!

 

[ConstantChange]

I have a few of those guys at my gym too. The very few that attempt to squat have mastered this new 5" ROM technique you speak of.

I had a somewhat different situation happen to me the other day. The squat rack is only a few feet from the smith machine in my gym. Well....I was squatting 225 in the squat rack. For me, that is really heavy when I go as low as I can, so I only got a few reps. A 160lb Highschool Hero loads up the smith with what he thinks is 225 and begins to bust off about 8 5" ROM reps. Then he looks towards me to make sure I know how much stronger he is than me.

 

[Thaibox]

Over the last couple of years at my gym, aside from my buddies and I, there has been ONE other guy that I've seen go to the floor. Yes, only one. Around 4 or 5 go to parallel. Everyone else uses this 5"ROM squat. Not to mention that 90% of people that do these lame-ass squats use the smith machine.

 

[bignate73]

there has been ONE other guy that I've seen go to the floor.

ive seen a few go to the floor.....when they tried to go deeper than the 5in. protocol. pinned like the tail on a donkey.

hee hee

 

[JOKER47]

No one I know, except my wife, even knows what "ass-to-floor" even means.


Joker

 

[HulkRow]

No one I know, except my wife, even knows what "ass-to-floor" even means.


Joker

squating like that causes damage to the knees, you wont feel it now but in 20 years it will be painful to walk, i suggest you stick to doing half squats, they are alot safer and theres no risk of injury.

its a proven fact , We dont need studies to back it up.

 

[Lord_Suston]

This is not a new crave but more of a lazy one... I mean who are these kids fooling. Shit I am more impressed with someone doing 135 atf than 400 for 5". I really feel bad when these kids try to go all the way down and bottom out while my girl is going atf with the same amount of weight....

 

[needsize]

squating like that causes damage to the knees, you wont feel it now but in 20 years it will be painful to walk, i suggest you stick to doing half squats, they are alot safer and theres no risk of injury.

its a proven fact , We dont need studies to back it up.

Actually I think the school of thought has started to change on that...I recently saw a study, I really should have copied it or something, but the study was showing that there was actually more shearing force on the knees when the lifter reversed the movement at parallel as opposed to the bottom, as its the hips that pick up the strain at that point

 

[zackdarnell]

squating like that causes damage to the knees, you wont feel it now but in 20 years it will be painful to walk, i suggest you stick to doing half squats, they are alot safer and theres no risk of injury.

its a proven fact , We dont need studies to back it up.

I have to disagree here. Like needsize said, there is more strass on the knees when you reverse early. If you have any studies, I would like to see them.

 

[bignate73]

Actually I think the school of thought has started to change on that...I recently saw a study, I really should have copied it or something, but the study was showing that there was actually more shearing force on the knees when the lifter reversed the movement at parallel as opposed to the bottom, as its the hips that pick up the strain at that point

yup!

there is actually more strain reversing at parallel on the patellar tendon because it is basically the sticking point or the point where the lever is at peak torque.

 

[Exodus]

well....... maybe its just a quinky dink that all of these skinny guys are just training using the powerfactor method of training. u know, lifting heavier than normal weight in your strongest range of motion. naaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!!

heres a tip, unless the guy can already full rep squat 405 and he is just using it for partial, he is kidding himself.

beacuase i do this sometimes, but i do it with 900lbs on the bar.

oh well, i wonder if i would be a god to them??

X

 

[Nonerz]

its all good, my girlfriend makes them look like women when she outlifts them with good form.

touche!

you say the sweetest things!

actually, a few guys have asked for my $0.02 about squats. i guess you done taught me good baby!

 

[valerie]

I just had to add to this. I see the same things in my gym. Of course I'm a old woman but I do go atg. I don't use a big wt but then I don't need to. But what really gets me is all the supposed experts who say that atg is dangerous to knees. Mine feel great, I do use a slightly wide stance. I'd love to find the research mentioned above on the advantages of atg over parallel.-Valerie

 

[needsize]

I really do wish i had of kept that research now....
I figured that it was safer for myself years ago though. I have a knee that had been heavily damaged when I was a teen, and the doctor said I would have a limp forever, NO chance that I would ever squat again. Well I've been squatting ass to the floor for many years now, up to 450 for reps,a nd my kness have never felt better

 

[Thaibox]

Needsize, I was going to say a similar thing. My right knee is blown out good. If I go parallel it will fail 50% of the time without a brace and maybe 25% with a brace, and it will keep me up that night and kill me the next day. I've been going ATF for a while now wiht a light wrap and my knee, although noisy as hell, doesn't fail and feels fine the next day. The only thing that hurts is my quads from a good leg workout.


Its bullshit myths like HulkRow's that will keep people from acheiving their potential. Not to mention the topic of injuries

 

[rebelflagkisser]

maybe they were doing imaginary box squats

 

[scotty green]

yea I see these guys all the time. I want to go ask them just what the fuck is that supposed to be working. Then they have the nerve to walk around like the are huge and tell other dumb asses that they can squat 405. Fucking idiots!!!!!!

 

[Citruscide]

Scotty -- I hear ya.

Needsize.. I had a bad knee injury in an Extreme Paintball tournament at the beginning of July (I never get tired of telling people that) lol -- and it has hurt me somewhat up until I did squats this past Sunday. After those squats, I can now run up and down stairs without pain... and even run for short distances (like a quick sprint)

Squats are the miracle that never was... LOL

C-ditty

 

[needsize]

Citrus, that's the shit I keep telling people, squats are IT, the ones who wont listen are the ones too scared to put in any real work.....

 

[HulkRow]

......I did not put the "LOL" at the end of that post because i wanted to see what people would respond with.
What i wrote was what a "teacher" at my old school said when i was doing real squats.

-Thaibox gets the award for best reply.

 

[circusgirl]

um, if squatting deep is bad for you, how come OL folks aren't all on crutches?

 

[p0ink]

speaking of people doing dumb stuff with the bar...there was some kid doing incline bench at the smith machine. well, instead of having his feet on the floor like a normal person, he decides to put them on the mirror. well, he was struggling on his last rep, and decided to use his feet to help him out a little bit, and all of the sudden *CRASH*. the big fucking wall mirror shatters into a million pieces, glass all over the place, and a bunch of super pissed off people. not only did the prick not report it, but he didnt even rack his weights. he just went on doing the rest of his shitty workout as if nothing happened.

 

[Doktor Bollix]

A couple of fridays ago I had a guy come over to me and say "those are some good looking squats." I knew he was a fellow traveller who hates seeing the high squats or the Ass squat, where they just stick out their ass and good morning it back up. In my gym I've seen one guy squat with decent form once and I've never seen him since. I have to back up the people who say ATF is fine for the knees, I've had recent knee problems and I've been squatting 3 times a week for the past 4 months in the 3-5 rep range without a twinge.

 

[skaman607]

What do you mean? squats????