Ark94's Workout Log

[ark94]

wow, i definitely cannot do anything.

i got into the gym, started training and i got a headache, felt like throwing up/passing out. first time i ever left the gym, ever halfway through the workout. I hardly finished benched, not even sure if i did finish it.

i have to work later, hopefully i can go to work, feel better and hit the gym tonight to do my bench over again, finish my deadlift and complexes. otherwise when would i finish them?

 

[Tblock1]

wow, i definitely cannot do anything.

i got into the gym, started training and i got a headache, felt like throwing up/passing out. first time i ever left the gym, ever halfway through the workout. I hardly finished benched, not even sure if i did finish it.

i have to work later, hopefully i can go to work, feel better and hit the gym tonight to do my bench over again, finish my deadlift and complexes. otherwise when would i finish them?

Sounds like a migraine, I got them once after a brutal squat workout too. I actually threw up twice though. Yeah go back and finish them if you feel up to it.

 

[JDid23]

wow, i definitely cannot do anything.

i got into the gym, started training and i got a headache, felt like throwing up/passing out. first time i ever left the gym, ever halfway through the workout. I hardly finished benched, not even sure if i did finish it.

i have to work later, hopefully i can go to work, feel better and hit the gym tonight to do my bench over again, finish my deadlift and complexes. otherwise when would i finish them?

there is nothing wrong with taking a day off.

With your increase in cardio and overall workload, i think it would be a good idea for you to take a few sessions off and come back strong.

Just something to consider- but i wouldn't workout later.

 

[ExtraMile]

iv not lifted heavy for 10 days now and I actually think Iv grown a little in this time off...

and in that 10 days Iv only been to the gym once for some active recovery type stuff nothing too stressful...

 

[ark94]

Alright, well i am going to do nothing tonight then. I did video my squats of 115lb.. I was sooo hyped on videoing my deadlifts but then i just couldn't handle it anymore.

Is it okay if i go tomorrow night, and just do deadlifts, and bench again? Then go Friday and do my normal Workout B? Or is that pushing it, and i should leave the deadlifts and bench and just do Workout B friday? I never feel complete, and it just nags me if i don't complete something, thats why i want to finish it.

 

[Tblock1]

Rest is great but be careful I took 15 days off from my last squatting session and lost a ton of strength from squatting. Missing a week of deadlifting I lost strength too. You should be fine though

 

[JDid23]

Ark- i think that's fine if you're feeling up to it.

I also think that taking a week off would do your body some good, especially when you take into consideration the increase in cardio you just added.

Rest is great but be careful I took 15 days off from my last squatting session and lost a ton of strength from squatting. Missing a week of deadlifting I lost strength too. You should be fine though

15 days off is one thing-- a week here and there is good imo.

 

[ark94]

Workout A – 3x5

(Split into 2, wasn’t feeling good Wednesday, finished up on Thursday)​

WEDNESDAY
Squat (Medium Squat Day) – 115lb.
[FONT=&quot]Squats[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

1/5 - bar (normal)
1/5 - bar (wide)
1/5 - bar (out of the hole)
1/5 - 65lb. (normal)
1/5 - 65lb. (wide)
1/5 - 95lb. (normal)
1/5 - 95lb. (wide)
1/5 - 115lb. (normal)
1/5 - 115lb. (wide)
1/5 - 115lb. (out of the hole)

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[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Bench[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2/5 – bar[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/3 – 115lb[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 125lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 145lb. (felt like shit)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 135lb. (felt like shit still, could not handle it, I left)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Thursday[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Bench [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2/5 – bar[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 95lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/3 – 115lb[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 125lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 145lb. (wasn’t that bad, killed it)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 145lb. (went well, tough the very last rep)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 145lb. (troubles on the 4th and 5th rep, had to get some spot)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Deadlift[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 135lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 205lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 255lb. (working set, went good. I have a video for it)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]ASSISTANCE[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Chinups[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/ 8 – BW[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/6 – BW[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/4 – BW[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Sucks, I want to get 3/10.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]I videoed my DL, but I will post that tonight along with my squats heavy sets. [/FONT]

 

[Tblock1]

Workout A – 3x5

(Split into 2, wasn’t feeling good Wednesday, finished up on Thursday)​

WEDNESDAY
Squat (Medium Squat Day) – 115lb.
[FONT=&quot]Squats[/FONT][FONT=&quot]

1/5 - bar (normal)
1/5 - bar (wide)
1/5 - bar (out of the hole)
1/5 - 65lb. (normal)
1/5 - 65lb. (wide)
1/5 - 95lb. (normal)
1/5 - 95lb. (wide)
1/5 - 115lb. (normal)
1/5 - 115lb. (wide)
1/5 - 115lb. (out of the hole)

[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Bench[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]2/5 – bar[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/3 – 115lb[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 125lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 145lb. (felt like shit)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 135lb. (felt like shit still, could not handle it, I left)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Thursday[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Bench [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]2/5 – bar[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 95lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/3 – 115lb[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 125lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 145lb. (wasn’t that bad, killed it)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 145lb. (went well, tough the very last rep)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 145lb. (troubles on the 4th and 5th rep, had to get some spot)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Deadlift[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 135lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/2 – 205lb.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/5 – 255lb. (working set, went good. I have a video for it)[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]ASSISTANCE[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Chinups[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]1/ 8 – BW[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/6 – BW[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1/4 – BW[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Sucks, I want to get 3/10.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]I videoed my DL, but I will post that tonight along with my squats heavy sets. [/FONT]

Nice work on deads and bench! Can't wait to see the deads video What does "out of the hole" mean for squats? IE aren't you going out of the hole on every rep?

 

[ExtraMile]

i will lol when your benching more than jdid

which will be pretty soon

 

[Tblock1]

i will lol when your benching more than jdid

which will be pretty soon

ahahahahhahahahahahahahha I'm be all day long when that happens!!!!

 

[ark94]

Well i guess my form sucks dick lol. Here is my log anyways.

Workout B - Rippetoe's 3x5
​

Squat - `45lb. 135lb.
Military Press - 100lb. (hard - shitty form)
Bent Row - 120lb (okay difficulty)

Bent Row
2/5 - Bar
1/3 - 95lb.
1/2 - 105lb.
3/5 - 120lb. (decent, good form)

Military Press ( hard)
2/5 - Bar
1/3 - 65lb.
1/2 - 85lb..
1/5 - 100lb. (hard)
1/5 - 100lb. (harder)
1/4 - 100lb. (very hard, just could not get it up)
1/1 - 100lb. (in video, i set it down and picked it back up)
Squats (fucked up big time here)
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
1/2 - 135lb.
1/5 - 145lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
Complexes

Assistance

Dips (tried for 3x10)
1/10 - bw
1/10 - bw
1/7 - bw
- (just dead, couldn't go on)

Abs
3/7 - 85lb.


I am so depressed, mentally exhausted, and unmotivated with lifting now. I love to lift, but when my form sucks, even lifting such light weights it just fucks with my head and makes me so depresses that i physically exhaust myself thinking too much.

 

[Tblock1]

Well i guess my form sucks dick lol. Here is my log anyways.

Workout B - Rippetoe's 3x5
​

Squat - `45lb. 135lb.
Military Press - 100lb. (hard - shitty form)
Bent Row - 120lb (okay difficulty)

Bent Row
2/5 - Bar
1/3 - 95lb.
1/2 - 105lb.
3/5 - 120lb. (decent, good form)

Military Press ( hard)
2/5 - Bar
1/3 - 65lb.
1/2 - 85lb..
1/5 - 100lb. (hard)
1/5 - 100lb. (harder)
1/4 - 100lb. (very hard, just could not get it up)
1/1 - 100lb. (in video, i set it down and picked it back up)
Squats (fucked up big time here)
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
1/2 - 135lb.
1/5 - 145lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.
Complexes

Assistance

Dips (tried for 3x10)
1/10 - bw
1/10 - bw
1/7 - bw
- (just dead, couldn't go on)

Abs
3/7 - 85lb.


I am so depressed, mentally exhausted, and unmotivated with lifting now. I love to lift, but when my form sucks, even lifting such light weights it just fucks with my head and makes me so depresses that i physically exhaust myself thinking too much.

Maybe take a little time off? Form is very hard to get, but your form seemed fine to me. If you just follow the suggestions everyone gave you in the other thread your form and strength will improve a lot do not get get down on yourself

 

[ExtraMile]

maybe this sort of lifting just isnt for you, all it seems to be doing is making you depressed and giving you problems. Maybe a differant style of lifting would be better for you...

 

[ark94]

maybe this sort of lifting just isnt for you, all it seems to be doing is making you depressed and giving you problems. Maybe a differant style of lifting would be better for you...

bit rushed on time, could you elaborate on other styles? what other styles are there? :S

 

[ExtraMile]

bodybuilding, or something like crossfit was what I was thinking...

 

[ark94]

bodybuilding, or something like crossfit was what I was thinking...

this will sound stupid, but im training powerlifting right? I didn't really want to train powerlifting, i always wanted to train bodybuilding, if that make sense.

 

[ExtraMile]

your training for strength right now ("starting strength") yeah but not directly for powerlifting as your main goal isnt the biggest 1rm possible on squat dead and bench...

like i said talk to joe d about BBing he probably knows the most about it out of anyone on the board. Failing that you cuold talk to wulfgar but he isnt very active let alone active on the training board, he does compete in BBing though. Alcatraz is another guy you could talk to but he's often busy with work. Joe d has been the most helpful to me anyway

 

[Tblock1]

I dunno you really like the cardio don't you ark94? Something like crossfit could be great for you, or maybe a simple bodybuilding split. Personally I love training for strength, but if it's not working for you don't listen to us do something different.

 

[ark94]

I dunno you really like the cardio don't you ark94? Something like crossfit could be great for you, or maybe a simple bodybuilding split. Personally I love training for strength, but if it's not working for you don't listen to us do something different.

i like cardio to someee extent. i would rather do seperate cardio than weight lifting cardio lol.

I followed your guys suggestions because thats the way i thought i was suppose to go. I had no idea, i guess i want more of a bodybuilder routine. Whats the major differences other than rep range, and isolating the body parts? Can you still do bench, deadlift, and squat? Or are those taken out altogether?

I am talking to Joe D and he is helping me out with a bodybuilding routine. But i am going to start that during my bulk, and get the most out of it.

 

[ExtraMile]

you would still do variaions of squat bench a dead although you wouldnt have to do those exact ones. Eg you could do incline bench, flat db bench or some thing like that instead of flat BB if you found it to be better. You could do front squats instead of back squats or rackpulls instead of deads.

 

[ark94]

you would still do variaions of squat bench a dead although you wouldnt have to do those exact ones. Eg you could do incline bench, flat db bench or some thing like that instead of flat BB if you found it to be better. You could do front squats instead of back squats or rackpulls instead of deads.

Thanks extra, i find that the reason i get so pissed is because i compare myself to you guys. I look that you guys have great form, and lift so much. I lift a lot less, and you would assume i would have good form but i have shit form. light weight, and shit form, like fuck my life lol.


Question about the split then, would i still make good gains with a good bulking diet on the split as if i were say doing the 3x5? What is the comparison of gains between a split, and a strength routine? Is it based on your diet mainly, as opposed to the way you train? or they sort of even each other out?

^ did that make any sense? ....

 

[ExtraMile]

Thanks extra, i find that the reason i get so pissed is because i compare myself to you guys. I look that you guys have great form, and lift so much. I lift a lot less, and you would assume i would have good form but i have shit form. light weight, and shit form, like fuck my life lol.


Question about the split then, would i still make good gains with a good bulking diet on the split as if i were say doing the 3x5? What is the comparison of gains between a split, and a strength routine? Is it based on your diet mainly, as opposed to the way you train? or they sort of even each other out?

^ did that make any sense? ....

none of us have "great form" take deads- Iv gotten injured as a result of my form, jdid says his is good but never seen video's, tblocks was even worse than mine last time I saw. Andalite is the only one I can think of the video's his lifts and seems to have great form on his deadlifts...

you shouldnt be asking these questions in here if joe d is helping you...

 

[Tblock1]

none of us have "great form" take deads- Iv gotten injured as a result of my form, jdid says his is good but never seen video's, tblocks was even worse than mine last time I saw. Andalite is the only one I can think of the video's his lifts and seems to have great form on his deadlifts...

you shouldnt be asking these questions in here if joe d is helping you...

Are you kidding? Your form was horrible in your 314x1 video, a hitch is one of the most dangerous things you can do I've never hitched before. I've asked a lot of people and overall the only thing wrong with my form was some rounding of the back and a jerk at the beginning, other than that it is personal preference mostly, although if you get your ass lower and other stuff you will be able to lift more. Someone told me I could pull 500 right now if I just got my ass a little lower but he said other than that my form is fine for a max.

 

[ark94]

okay, so today sucked balls. Not really lol had a blast! I didn't get to workout , worked all morning, came home for an hour and had to go out with family friends. ending up going to the gym to find out that it was a holiday (forgot about our holiday today) and that it closes at 5. So i missed Workout A, which i will hit Wednesday. I guess it was destined that i wasn't going to workout today.

Should i drop down the weight on deadlifts since my form isn't the best? Or try better form at the current weight? Isn't bad form usually a sign of too much weight? If so, then i should drop down to 225? And could i do 3-4 sets on Wednesday, as opposed to 1 so you can judge how my form is in 10-15 reps, rather than just 5.

 

[Tblock1]

okay, so today sucked balls. Not really lol had a blast! I didn't get to workout , worked all morning, came home for an hour and had to go out with family friends. ending up going to the gym to find out that it was a holiday (forgot about our holiday today) and that it closes at 5. So i missed Workout A, which i will hit Wednesday. I guess it was destined that i wasn't going to workout today.

Should i drop down the weight on deadlifts since my form isn't the best? Or try better form at the current weight? Isn't bad form usually a sign of too much weight? If so, then i should drop down to 225? And could i do 3-4 sets on Wednesday, as opposed to 1 so you can judge how my form is in 10-15 reps, rather than just 5.

This is just my opinion, but: I think you should get a belt for your top sets, and keep going with the weight. I do many of the same things wrong as you though I have straightened out my form some. I haven't injured my back and have gotten to 445x1, and 400x4. However each person is different so what doesn't injure me may injure you...so be aware.

 

[ark94]

finally back in the gym. great workout, did not get full on bench, but meh. recorded the deadlifts, got some stuff to say about after.

One thing that sucks, is that i am really getting hit by this cut now in terms of energy during my workout. I got another 19 days left, till June 15th, and i will be bulking. Now i know i can cut, and i don't feel any need for abs anymore if i can't lift a lot, no point. fuck them, i want to lift big. The cut is really affecting my energy during my workout, especially on bench and squats, so i can't wait till im off of it.

Workout A - Rippetoe's 3x5

Squats - 115lb. (medium squat day)
Bench - 145lb.
Deadlift - 225lb. (worked on form)


Squat
1/5 - bar (normal)
1/5 - bar (wide stance)
1/5 - 75lb. (normal)
1/5 - 75lb. (wide stance)
1/3 - 95lb. (normal)
1/3 - 95lb. (wide stance)
3/5 - 115lb. (normal,wide,normal)

Bench
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
1/2 - 130lb.
1/4 - 150lb. (attempted, way to much) - spot fourth
1/4 - 145lb. (spot fourth)
1/5 - 145lb. (little spot fifth)
1/3 - 145lb.
Not sure why, but my back is still hurting from last week when i hurt it. It was killing me, but i also was drained out of energy. Which is why i said its catching up to me, really felt it on the bench today.

Deadlift
1/5 - 135lb.
1/2 - 205lb.
1/ nothing - 260lb. (attempted with form corrections, big fail)
1/5 - 225lb. (form was better, its tuff with the stuff you said to fix)
1/5 - 225lb. (same as above)

Deadlift
it was not that great, with correcting my form i couldn't even get it up on 260lb. 225lb. it was actually very hard, i tried the stuff you guys said. I have videos so check them out in the thread i will post up.

Bench
really felt the effects of the cut on bench, i was extremely drained out of energy. i was surprised to even do 2 reps, it was brutal.

Will have deadlift form up in a thread later tonight.
​

 

[JDid23]

gd job. Btw why are you cutting until June 15th? kinda random that you're going to start bulking at the start of summer. Jw

 

[ark94]

wow, just wow. first time i am actually happy after a workout!!!!

I found a new way to look at things, and its fucking awesome. I have a ton of questions to go on about. LOTS of videos from my squats, military presses, and bent rows!!! Also tons of questions based on my diet, i will post like 2 or 3 in here, rest in the diet section!

going out to soccer for 2+hours, will try and post stuff up tonight, if not Sunday by latest.


EDIT: I guess im happy because I felt like a fucking badass today. I normally only have a cheatmeal once a week, on Sunday and its pizza. Today HOWEVER, I had pizza that my teacher bought, and I just had a slice, then 2 more and it felt great. I honestly had never felt better in my life hahah! And I was still so fucking hungry after, I could have ate like 5-6 more.

 

[ExtraMile]

wow, just wow. first time i am actually happy after a workout!!!!

good job but there is somethign wrong then... I have had awesome workouts before and riding home I feel like Im on a drug induced high...

not saying you should feel like that everytime or even after any workout but if your not enjoying this then you should change it, the workouts and exercises you enjoy will be the workouts and exercises you can put the most effort and dedication in to...

 

[ark94]

good job but there is somethign wrong then... I have had awesome workouts before and riding home I feel like Im on a drug induced high...

not saying you should feel like that everytime or even after any workout but if your not enjoying this then you should change it, the workouts and exercises you enjoy will be the workouts and exercises you can put the most effort and dedication in to...

reason i really liked it because i did a different deadlift. And it was something you said a while ago, but i didn't really know what you meant. And squatting, it looked like i had good form so i was happy. The row, which i only got to video 1 set, i am putting up. It was a dynamic one, where you deloaded each rep, and exploded it into your chest. it was awesome, and just made my workout so much fun.

gd job. Btw why are you cutting until June 15th? kinda random that you're going to start bulking at the start of summer. Jw

here is why i am going to bulk at the beginning of summer... kinda dumb right? well, i finally realized what everyone else has been telling me, and thats what i needed to find out for myself. I look fucking anorexic with my skinny as arms, and legs. I really need to get bigger, and its not fun being cut if you can't lift big. So i want to lift a lot more, before i start cutting. which won't be anytime soon.

I am really busy today, i want to post my workout but will get to that later on tonight. I will have my videos up in a new thread though.

 

[Tblock1]

good job but there is somethign wrong then... I have had awesome workouts before and riding home I feel like Im on a drug induced high...

not saying you should feel like that everytime or even after any workout but if your not enjoying this then you should change it, the workouts and exercises you enjoy will be the workouts and exercises you can put the most effort and dedication in to...

You are in a drug induced high man. Your body releases huge amount of endorphins when you workout (your body's natural pain killers). One of the hormones released is actually very similar to the pain killing hormone released when you smoke weed, and also released is other hormones similar to what is released when you do heroin.

 

[ark94]

nice post tblock! i knew your body produces that, but i didn't know you could technically get "high" off of it. I was pretty damn happy all Friday afternoon lol.

Okay, so i forgot to post my workout for Friday.

Workout B - Rippetoe's 3x5

Squat - 135lb.
Military Press - 80lb. (strict)
Row - 120lb. (explosive)


Squat
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
1/2 - 125lb.
4x5 - 135lb.

Military Press
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 55lb.
1/3 - 65lb.
1/2 - 70lb.
3/5 - 80lb.

Bent "explosive" Row
1/5 - 75lb.
1/3 - 95lb.
3x5 - 120lb.

Complexes
3 sets - 70lb. (dropping these)

Dips
1/10
1/5
1/10



You all saw the videos i think, so nothing to say.


Btw, NEW ROUTINE!! I went and talked to Aaron, the guy in the red in the vids, and we looked at my squats, strict military presses, and deadlifts. He added some stuff, showed me some stuff, and we made a new routine since im eating like a horse now (or call it bulking lol).
I will have a new thread up, just if you want to see it. But i am going to follow that.

 

[ExtraMile]

why change now when your making progress, that 135 squat video was the best squat video iv seen from you...

 

[ark94]

why change now when your making progress, that 135 squat video was the best squat video iv seen from you...

yeah well we went over my squats and he also said they looked great, plus i feel confident doing them. I am not at all changing much really, actually its only tweaking i would say. I have time right now i hope, and i will type it up and post it in a new thread. Its still keeping almost everything i am doing, a few variations, and still the traditional 3x5 rep/set range.

 

[JDid23]

don't you want size? ^^

 

[ExtraMile]

fuck about 5 days ago you told me you were cutting but were talking to joe d about routines and diet and now your telling us you want to concentrate on strength and do what this aaron guy tells you

and before you ask yeah you can get size and strength at the same time but you can put more focus on one or the other

 

[ark94]

fuck about 5 days ago you told me you were cutting but were talking to joe d about routines and diet and now your telling us you want to concentrate on strength and do what this aaron guy tells you

and before you ask yeah you can get size and strength at the same time but you can put more focus on one or the other

In the simplest form, i am lost.

Do i know what i want? Yes, i want to lift big, and be big.

Do i know how to get there? Ofc i do.

Can i? Well probably not at the way i am going.

Why? I am a self-conscious little bitch who cares too much about the image of my body.

What? I got to stop worrying about the above, and ill get where i want to be.



Does that sound simple enough?

I am listening to you guys also, i just watched all my videos over again on Saturday, and sat there and realized wow, i look fucking anorexic. I have lanky arms, and chicken legs. I don't want that.

The strength thing is just about i realize i think i want to start lifting more weight in squat, deadlift, and bench first before i go over to any bodybuilding split.

 

[ExtraMile]

In the simplest form, i am lost.

Do i know what i want? Yes, i want to lift big, and be big.

Do i know how to get there? Ofc i do.

Can i? Well probably not at the way i am going.

Why? I am a self-conscious little bitch who cares too much about the image of my body.
What? I got to stop worrying about the above, and ill get where i want to be.



Does that sound simple enough?

I am listening to you guys also, i just watched all my videos over again on Saturday, and sat there and realized wow, i look fucking anorexic. I have lanky arms, and chicken legs. I don't want that.

The strength thing is just about i realize i think i want to start lifting more weight in squat, deadlift, and bench first before i go over to any bodybuilding split.

cant really help you until you sort that out enough to follow any sort of plan...

 

[ark94]

New workout Routine started today!

Heavy Day (Monday) - 31st

Squats (#11 pins) - 140lb.
Push Press - 90lb.
Deadlift - 135lb. 185lb. 225lb. 260lb.

Warmup
- 5 Minute Bike
- Abs (laying on bench 'V' shape) - 1/10
- Laying legs raises (hands holding onto bench) - 1/10
- Reverse Hypers - 1/15
- Pushups - 1/5
- Chinups - 1/7
- Dynamic Stretches (4 point squat, hip stretch)

Squats
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
1/2 - 125lb.
3/5 - 140lb. (#11 pins)

Took short rests, not sure why but i really loved squatting, and i took like 15-30rests max. Didn't even want to take short rests, i just jumped in because it felt right lol.

Push Press
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 55lb.
1/3 - 65lb.
3/5 - 90lb.

Damn, i fucking loved it. I have videos for my push press ill upload. I just have to work on my explosiveness more, and it will be great. hit my chin one time hahah, really have to get that chin tucked, and lost balance twice. other than that it was mad fun!

Deadlift
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 185lb.
1/5 - 225lb.
1/2 - 260lb. (i got videos in my deadlift form check thread, but i honestly thought i could have gotten 2 more in me)

Chinups
1/6
1/6
1/5
1/4
1/3
1/4
1/4
(all BW - aimed for 30)
+7 at beginning of Workout

Overall

Workout went well. Fucking loved it. A note i wanted to add, ALL the assistance i did at the beginning, i looked at it and was like fuck, I'm going to have no energy for this shit. I did the assistance, everything i was suppose to and it felt not only great, but i jumped into squats and killed them!
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[miked8c]

Trust me man, you do not want to cut. Your still a beginnner lifter, not to put you down at all its just what you are. You want to focus on one thing, Size. I am 100% sure that the best thing for you, being a hardgainer, is to eat ike a horse. Cutting would only be useless and counterproductive to your goals. You'll get weaker and will look like a holocaust victim more than a bodybuilder.

I am not putting down cutting at all but at your weight you dont have that much muscle or fat to cut so you wouldnt look much different except you would be weaker. Save cutting and bulking cycles for when you have more weight to play around with. At this point in your life I, and everyone else, can tell you without a doubt you need to prioritize and focus on one goal, getting big. Hit the weights and food with reckless abandon because as a hardgainer youll put on mostly LBM and therefore get cut as you get big, the best of both worlds.

Dont be discouraged with your appearance you and I are both so young, we have our entire prime ahead of us and such a large amount of time to change and strengthen our bodies. If you keep with this you will be a strong mofo, no question in my mind.

 

[ark94]

Trust me man, you do not want to cut. Your still a beginnner lifter, not to put you down at all its just what you are. You want to focus on one thing, Size. I am 100% sure that the best thing for you, being a hardgainer, is to eat ike a horse. Cutting would only be useless and counterproductive to your goals. You'll get weaker and will look like a holocaust victim more than a bodybuilder.

I am not putting down cutting at all but at your weight you dont have that much muscle or fat to cut so you wouldnt look much different except you would be weaker. Save cutting and bulking cycles for when you have more weight to play around with. At this point in your life I, and everyone else, can tell you without a doubt you need to prioritize and focus on one goal, getting big. Hit the weights and food with reckless abandon because as a hardgainer youll put on mostly LBM and therefore get cut as you get big, the best of both worlds.

Dont be discouraged with your appearance you and I are both so young, we have our entire prime ahead of us and such a large amount of time to change and strengthen our bodies. If you keep with this you will be a strong mofo, no question in my mind.

Thanks mike, yeah i am no where near being an experienced lifter, and i accept that i don't mind. I stopped cutting Friday, and just been eating like a horse because i got past the fact of the personal image crap. So i am just not even bulking, the guy that helps me at the gym tells me to eat like a horse, not any of this bulk crap. And i never wanted to, but i am ready now to gain a fuck load of weight. I guess im taking it as a different perspective, not a bodybuilder but like powerlifting. I just want to lift big more than anything.

It is awesome eating whatever, and yeah since you said im a powerlifter im not following a bulking diet or anything, all im doing is as long as its healthy foods, like no white rice, or meats loaded with fat on them, i will eat a shit load. Ofc its hard, but i sit there and down big ass plates full of food. It does make me feel like a slob lol, but it gives you energy.

Have you been bulking since you were 14? or how did you start off? were you always more or less bigger?

 

[miked8c]

I've never bulked in my life man, I weighed 140 lbs. entering freshman year in HS. I was never big for my age and was actually the shortest kid in my class before puberty, I have never been stocky like I am now, always on the skinny/lean side but I remember that I used to be slightly stronger than the avg. kid in my grade even though I was small.

I have actually never dieted either I have just eaten whatever I wanted up until now. The reason I was able to do this was because I played hockey(killer HIIT cardio) so much that I burned off all my fat so it didnt really matter what I ate as long as I fueled myself. Instead of dieting I watched what i ate to make sure I didnt snack too much and ate solid meals consistently.

Forward to now I weight about 45 lbs. more at 188lbs. 5'8 and am on my way to college. If I had to offer you any words of wisdom(not saying I am the right person to be asking on this board) I would tell you that your already ahead of the game since you have the intrinsic motivation to go out and hit the iron hard. Seeing you post videos on this board says that you want to take the time to get your shit straight which takes maturity. This mentality alone is key for lifting just keep doing what your doing and EAT.

I'm fairly new to this board but even I can tell you your in good hands.

 

[ark94]

Thanks mike, this board is definitely one, if not the best out there. Great place, so glad i came here before any other site.

Light Day (Wednesday) - 2nd June
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Front Squats - 115lb. (messed up, didn't take this light)
Military Press - 85lb. (fucking killed it!!!)
Deadlift + Shrug - 135lb.

Warmup
- 5 Minute Bike
- Abs (laying on bench 'V' shape) - 1/10
- Laying legs raises (hands holding onto bench) - 1/10
- Reverse Hypers - 1/15
- Pushups - 1/5
- Chinups - 1/7
- Dynamic Stretches (4 point squat, hip stretch)

Front Squats
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 105lb.
3/5 - 115lb.
(loved front squatting, back still rounds at the bottom a little, have videos stupid slow ass internet keeps on fucking up though when i try to upload)

Military Press
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 55lb.
1/3 - 75lb. (felt so fucking light, decided i could do 85lbs)
3/5 - 85lb. (not that bad, solid weight, still a tad light though)

Deadlift + Shrug
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.

Lower Back + Abs

Hyper Extensions
3/20 - bw (not that bad, still easy i can add weight to them)

Hanging Knees to Elbows
1/4
1/4
1/5

Planks
3 sets of 45 seconds each

Knee Raises
3/7
Overall
Loved it, just loved this workout. I was tired going to it, i find that i hate my workouts if i go after school, so i come home now, eat a fuck load, do little bit of homework and get right to the gym and hit the weights!!!

Front Squats
jdid, i did what you said, and i loved front squatting. i need to work on my quads, and it was pretty damn fun doing them, although i did them heavy on my light day.... woops lol

Military Press
i have a video of it also, will have them all up sometime, something important about them in the thread i make once i get them uploaded.

 

[JDid23]

Thanks mike, this board is definitely one, if not the best out there. Great place, so glad i came here before any other site.

Light Day (Wednesday) - 2nd June
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Front Squats - 115lb. (messed up, didn't take this light)
Military Press - 85lb. (fucking killed it!!!)
Deadlift + Shrug - 135lb.

Warmup
- 5 Minute Bike
- Abs (laying on bench 'V' shape) - 1/10
- Laying legs raises (hands holding onto bench) - 1/10
- Reverse Hypers - 1/15
- Pushups - 1/5
- Chinups - 1/7
- Dynamic Stretches (4 point squat, hip stretch)

Front Squats
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 105lb.
3/5 - 115lb.
(loved front squatting, back still rounds at the bottom a little, have videos stupid slow ass internet keeps on fucking up though when i try to upload)

Military Press
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 55lb.
1/3 - 75lb. (felt so fucking light, decided i could do 85lbs)
3/5 - 85lb. (not that bad, solid weight, still a tad light though)

Deadlift + Shrug
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 135lb.

Lower Back + Abs

Hyper Extensions
3/20 - bw (not that bad, still easy i can add weight to them)

Hanging Knees to Elbows
1/4
1/4
1/5

Planks
3 sets of 45 seconds each

Knee Raises
3/7
Overall
Loved it, just loved this workout. I was tired going to it, i find that i hate my workouts if i go after school, so i come home now, eat a fuck load, do little bit of homework and get right to the gym and hit the weights!!!

Front Squats
jdid, i did what you said, and i loved front squatting. i need to work on my quads, and it was pretty damn fun doing them, although i did them heavy on my light day.... woops lol

Military Press
i have a video of it also, will have them all up sometime, something important about them in the thread i make once i get them uploaded.

Sounds like things are starting to gel together for you man. Great to hear you liked the front squats. I have noticed they're a hell of an ab workout too. How did you like the depth you got on them and how easy was it?

I also want to add i think you should do more than 7 BW reps if you can for abs.

 

[ark94]

Medium/Heavy Day - 4th June

Full Squat - 140lb.
Dynamic Row - 130lb.
Bench Press - 145lb. (140lb.)

Warmup
- 5 Minute Bike
- Abs (laying on bench 'V' shape) - 1/10
- Laying legs raises (hands holding onto bench) - 1/10
- Reverse Hypers - 1/15
- Pushups - 1/5
- Chinups - 1/7
- Dynamic Stretches (4 point squat, hip stretch)

Full Squat
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
3/5 - 140lb.

Dynamic Row
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
3/5 - 130lb.

Flat Bench
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
1/4 - 145lb.
1/5 - 140lb.
1/4 - 140lb.
1/4 - 140lb.
1/4 - 140lb.
1/3 - 140lb.

Assistance

Leg Press - 240lbs. (2/20)
Leg Curls - 80lbs. (1/10 couldn't do more then 10)
1/10 - 65lbs. (finish off the 80lb set)
1/20 - 65lbs.

Overall
Awesome fucking workout! Bench is not my strong area, but i feel it will bounce up now that im on the right track. I also loved recording my videos! It helped me a shit ton on my squats. Didn't have time for the Hip Adductors, or Calf raises, had to get to soccer practice.

Full Squats
So here is the deal, i recorded them and they will be up. One thing i found that was if i go to deep, obviously my back rounds but the weight is sooo much harder. If i get to where my back doesn't round, or it rounds just a taddd then the weight is considerably easier, and i could definitely do more. I have a little indicator now, and it helps me when i squat so that my back won't round as much. In the video thread, i will explain a little bit more, and you will see what i mean.

Dynamic Bentrow
I think i used a little bit legs, but again my video will be up so let me know.

I could really feel my quads just burningggg up after the leg press, however im not sure what leg press machine im suppose to use... or leg curl one. There are tons of machines, and i was just lost lol, ill try and get pics here to show you what i used.

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[ExtraMile]

Thanks mike, yeah i am no where near being an experienced lifter, and i accept that i don't mind. I stopped cutting Friday, and just been eating like a horse because i got past the fact of the personal image crap. So i am just not even bulking, the guy that helps me at the gym tells me to eat like a horse, not any of this bulk crap. And i never wanted to, but i am ready now to gain a fuck load of weight. I guess im taking it as a different perspective, not a bodybuilder but like powerlifting. I just want to lift big more than anything.

whats the differance between eating like a horse and "bulking"

btw dont be scared of fats, you said aslong as the food isnt fatty then you will eat aload. Well eggs, milk and steak are three of the best bodybuilding and powerlifting foods out there and all contain fats. Peanut butter is another one too. Fats are good for several reasons.

1. calorie dense, 9kcal in 1g of fat compared to 4kcal in 1g of protein or carbs
2. fats can help lube up your joints
3. saturated fat has been linked to increased testosterone levels

dont go crazy but dont restrict yourself too much with fats. I eat anywere from 80g to ~130g of fat per day although I dont keep track of calories and macronutrients anymore so it could be more than that...

 

[miked8c]

EM, at this stage in Arks training as long as he eats a boatload of good food he doesent need to restrict himself on a set bulking diet. He has newbie strength(no offense) he'll put on muscle alot easier than folks like you or I. He shouldnt be worrying about dieting just yet, instead just eating like a horse while trying to eat a semi-healthy diet.

 

[ark94]

EM i look at a bulk as a diet, as in you follow a plan and you restrict the amount of fats, etc you have in your diet. Just eating like a horse would be eat whatever, and a lot. Just making sure its semi-healthy like mike said. I'm not going to sit here and eat white rice, i still eat brown rice etc, just i eat a lot more and my fats may be higher because im not tracking anything anymore.

 

[miked8c]

EM i look at a bulk as a diet, as in you follow a plan and you restrict the amount of fats, etc you have in your diet. Just eating like a horse would be eat whatever, and a lot. Just making sure its semi-healthy like mike said. I'm not going to sit here and eat white rice, i still eat brown rice etc, just i eat a lot more and my fats may be higher because im not tracking anything anymore.

Yeah, you got it ark.

 

[ark94]

Yeah, you got it ark.

Yeah i think i do lol. Its a lot easier just to eat, and it doesn't take up as much of my time.

Aside from that, had to miss todays workout. Stupid English paper due tomorrow and science test lol.

Just wondering, i know rest is good and i feel great resting, but should i go tuesday and do my monday workout, then go wednesday and do my wednesday workout? Or just continue where i left off? Any input on this? Or do i scratch this Monday's workout all together and just go on Wednesday and do my Wednesday workout?

 

[miked8c]

Thats your call, how taxed will you be if you workout the day before wendsday. Do you have some big lifts that you'll need all your gas in the tank for? Or could you do these lifts when your not 100%? I think you should do mondays workout tomorow.

 

[ark94]

Thats your call, how taxed will you be if you workout the day before wendsday. Do you have some big lifts that you'll need all your gas in the tank for? Or could you do these lifts when your not 100%? I think you should do mondays workout tomorow.

Realized after i posted it is more or less my call lol. But i thought i should do it tomorrow, however i have heavy squat, heavy deadlift, and heavy push press if i were to do Monday's workout tomorrow.

Then wednesday i have light squats, and military press + semi-light deadlift with shrug.

That doesn't seem too taxing considering its mainly light on Wednesday with the exception of military press?

Plus, with all the food im eating i should be good to goo!!

 

[ark94]

Love hitting the gym at night.

Heavy Day - 8th June​

Squats (#11 pins) - 145lb.
Push Press - 95lb.
Deadlift - 135lb. 185lb. 225lb. 260lb.

Warmup
- 5 Minute Bike
- Abs (laying on bench 'V' shape) - 1/10
- Laying legs raises (hands holding onto bench) - 1/10
- Reverse Hypers - 1/15
- Pushups - 1/5
- Chinups - 1/7 (forgot about them, made up for them after)
- Dynamic Stretches (4 point squat, hip stretch)

Squats
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lb.
1/3 - 115lb.
1/2 - 125lb.
3/5 - 140lb. (#11 pins)

Tanked through the warmups, literally no rests on warmups and working sets little rests. I just have so much more energy now to do them without resting so fucking long.

Push Press
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 55lb.
1/3 - 65lb.
3/5 - 95lb.

Loved it. Really fun lift with the explosive power i can work on.

Deadlift
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 185lb.
1/5 - 225lb.
1/5 - 260lb. (wanted to hit 5 reps, and i hit it!)

Chinups (aim 40)
1/10
1/6
1/6
1/4
1/4
1/3
1/4
1/4

Overall
Great workout. I have videos in my other thread. http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/w...ing/form-check-thread-707185.html#post9484601

Any videos i have ill post up in there for form check.

I actually love the idea of explosive power and lifting. Which is why i like the push presses so much. If i learned powercleans, would they be beneficial to any of my lifts right now? Or no?

 

[Tblock1]

I wouldn't suggest powercleans till you are stronger. Great workout though!

 

[JDid23]

Don't learn cleans yet. You have too much else on your plate at the moment

 

[ark94]

Alright, that's fine then. How did my deadlifts look if anyone saw them? or my push press?

 

[ark94]

Light Day (Wednesday) - 9th June
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Front Squats - 105lb.
Military Press - 90lb.
Deadlift + Shrug - 135lb. 185lb. 225lb.

Warmup
- 5 Minute Bike
- Abs (laying on bench 'V' shape) - 1/15
- Laying legs raises (hands holding onto bench) - 1/10
- Reverse Hypers - 1/15
- Pushups - 1/5
- Chinups - 1/7
- Dynamic Stretches (4 point squat, hip stretch)

Front Squats
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 75lb.
1/3 - 85lb.
1/2 - 95lb.
3/5 - 105lb.
1/5 - 105lb. (wide stance - back squat)

Military Press
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 55lb.
1/3 - 75lb.
3/5 - 90lb. (not that bad, solid weight)

Deadlift + Shrug
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 185lb.
1/5 - 225lb.

Abs

Laying Leg Raises
1/15
1/15
1/15

Planks
3 sets of 45 seconds each

Ab Situps
1/8 - 90lbs (form was off so i lowered weight)
1/8 - 75lb.
1/8 - 75lb.

Overall
Great workout. Have videos of my Military Press and Front Squat.

 

[ExtraMile]

just saying but didnt you make a new thread asking about this routine and pretty much everyone said there was something they didnt like about it. The warmup was also criticized and andalite wrote a long post on how you could improve it and yet you are still doing the same routine and the same warmup...

sorry if Im wrong but thats how I though it was maybe you followed the advice and changed the routine though...

 

[JDid23]

good workout. Keep progressing slowly on front squats- i promise you they will get harder soon.

 

[ark94]

Just in general, are you suppose to lift more on your front squats then back squats?

just saying but didnt you make a new thread asking about this routine and pretty much everyone said there was something they didnt like about it. The warmup was also criticized and andalite wrote a long post on how you could improve it and yet you are still doing the same routine and the same warmup...

sorry if Im wrong but thats how I though it was maybe you followed the advice and changed the routine though...

There is a lot of reasons. I am ignorant is the main reason i guess you can say. I am open to suggestions, just it seemed way to confusing, all these percentages and different weights and 1rm on one then switching to back squat 1rm or 2,3,4,5rm and whatnot. I just didn't think i could handle that.

However, i looked again at Andalites routine, and i like the looks of it, but i need help figuring out how much weight i would use etc. I sent him a message, most definitely he won't respond because i was a dick but hopefully he does. I like this routine i am doing, but i really think my body needs a complete change up, not just adding in a few exercises like i did. So i am wanting to change it up completely to Andalites.

Few things wrong though is i want to have Push Presses and Dynamic Rows in Andalites routine. He only put in MP and DB rows.. not much a fan of DB but i love MP.


I sent him a message asking if he could clarify stuff.... just waiting to see.
As far as the warmup goes, idk how its bad? I think its pretty good warmup so far, i have felt great going into my workouts. I might feel better not doing such a warmup but i would have to find out. It hasn't seem to effect me soo much, but then again like i said i haven't done anything without it.

just not trying to be a dick or anything, in that thread you said let this guy train me for a while.... so i went with that, but i realize my body needs a complete change, and after you posted that i looked at andalites again and it looks good.

Hopefully he responds.

 

[JDid23]

I think if it's tweaked a bit you can keep the base of it.. Sorry to ask, but do you mind reposting it in here so some guys can take a look?

Also, it's extremely rare that someone can front squat more than back squat. Back squats allow you to squeeze the bar and keep your back tighter, and there is more posterior chain involvement. Front squats hit your quads harder and put less stress on your lower back as well. I think the way you have it with 1 day of each is perfect.

 

[ark94]

I think if it's tweaked a bit you can keep the base of it.. Sorry to ask, but do you mind reposting it in here so some guys can take a look?

Also, it's extremely rare that someone can front squat more than back squat. Back squats allow you to squeeze the bar and keep your back tighter, and there is more posterior chain involvement. Front squats hit your quads harder and put less stress on your lower back as well. I think the way you have it with 1 day of each is perfect.

Here is what the routine is. I am pissed i missed out on the oppurtunity to do what Andalite wanted me to.... now i just have to wait and see what im going to do.

WARM UP

EVERY WORKOUT – At the BEGINNING
5 Minutes Bike

Hyper Extensions – 1x20
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---or--- reverse extensions (on ball, raise legs, hold bench) – 1x20
Hip Thrusts (heels on bench, 1 leg thrust, explosive knee drive thrust) – 1x20
Chinups – 1x7
Pushups – 1x5
Abs (lie on bench, raise legs and hands like a ‘V’) – 1x10
Dynamic Stretches

---- START WORKOUT----

M (heavy day)
Back Squat (pins at #11) – 3x5
Pushpress – 3x5
Deadlift (normal) - 1x5
Chins (30-40 total)
Dips

W (light day)
Front Squat (and wide stance back squat)) – 3x5 – 90% (heavy)
Deadlift with Shrug (or RDL) – 1x5
Military Press – 3x5 - (don't normally take these lift, go to my max i can for 3x5)
-----> Assist – lower back + abs

F (medium day)
Back Squat (full squat) – 3x5 (these are always heavy)
Dynamic Bent Row – 3x5 (heaviest weight i can do for 3x5)
Flat Bench – 3x5 (heaviest weight i can do for 3x5)
-----> Assist – leg machines – Calf raise – 2x20
- Leg curl – 2x20
- Adductor – 2x20
- Leg Press 2x20


_________Basically REVAMPED the 3x5_________
- Dynamic Bent Row
- Leg Machines
- Deadlift with Shrug
- Push Press
- Back Squat (#11 pins)
- Assistance Exercises



REASONS

Push Press
- Gets my used to pushing more weight above my head.
- Sticky Point in the lift, that activates my shoulders . . . Again helps with pushing more weight
Squat (#11 pins)
- Fix rounding back problem
- Help add weight

Aside from that, i missed out on my workout today. I had to work after school, its almost nine now, no parents are home and no way to get to the gym. I guess I'm going to do it tomorrow morning, which is going to be a change. NEVER worked out in the morning in atleast a good year now.

 

[ExtraMile]

ride your bike to the gym

 

[ark94]

ride your bike to the gym

Bunch of reasons why i can't. I live out in the countryside, a good 6-8km away from my gym but that doesn't bother me. A major road is closed due to construction, and everyone has to drive a major detour, so to bike around it will take me an hour haha.

Forgot to post up my workout today.

Medium Day - June 12th


Warmup
- 5 minute bike
- Dynamic Stretches

Full Squat
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lbs
1/3 - 115lbs
3/5 - 145lbs

Dynamic Bentrow
1/5 - 95lbs
1/3 - 115lbs
3/5 - 135lbs (same as my bench? wtf?)

Flat Bench
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lbs
1/3 - 115lbs
3/5 - 135lbs (dropped down)

Assistance
Leg Press
2/20 - 245lbs

Calf Raise
2/20 - 25lbs (whatever the whole thing weighs, plus 25lb plate)

Hip Ab/Adductor
2/20 - 65lbs

Leg Curls
2/20 - 70lbs

Overall
Fucking hate going in the morning. It was nice and quite in the gym, but i had no energy. I have one of the biggest breakfasts ever, and i still was not feeling up to what i could have done. I really prefer nighttime over morning, more meals, more food, more energy

Aside from that, the workout was decent. I could have easily killed the 145lbs squat, but a little struggle due to no energy. Dynamic Row, it felt good i have videos of it if you would like to check the form and let me know. Is my row suppose to be higher than my bench?
Bench, i didn't struggle today, it wasn't easy, but not extremely hard. I got through the 3x5 with little struggle on last 2 reps on set 3, still got the weight up i had no spot so i had to lol.

Working out that routine with Andalite. I love the way it is, the whole SDT progression is def. a lot better than what im doing with the 5lbs per week. Thats fucking retarded, just have to tryout my 1RM's for:
Back Squat
Front Squat
Bench
Strict Military
Deadlift

Any suggestions on how to tryout 1RM's? Are my warmups going to be different? Do i start with the heaviest weight possible? Or say do 165lbs, if i get it then 170lbs, or do i jump to 175lbs? Andalite sort of went over it a little, but how would i try my 1RM's on my lifts?

 

[ExtraMile]

Bunch of reasons why i can't. I live out in the countryside, a good 6-8km away from my gym but that doesn't bother me. A major road is closed due to construction, and everyone has to drive a major detour, so to bike around it will take me an hour haha.

Forgot to post up my workout today.

Medium Day - June 12th


Warmup
- 5 minute bike
- Dynamic Stretches

Full Squat
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lbs
1/3 - 115lbs
3/5 - 145lbs

Dynamic Bentrow
1/5 - 95lbs
1/3 - 115lbs
3/5 - 135lbs (same as my bench? wtf?)

Flat Bench
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lbs
1/3 - 115lbs
3/5 - 135lbs (dropped down)

Assistance
Leg Press
2/20 - 245lbs

Calf Raise
2/20 - 25lbs (whatever the whole thing weighs, plus 25lb plate)

Hip Ab/Adductor
2/20 - 65lbs

Leg Curls
2/20 - 70lbs

Overall
Fucking hate going in the morning. It was nice and quite in the gym, but i had no energy. I have one of the biggest breakfasts ever, and i still was not feeling up to what i could have done. I really prefer nighttime over morning, more meals, more food, more energy

Aside from that, the workout was decent. I could have easily killed the 145lbs squat, but a little struggle due to no energy. Dynamic Row, it felt good i have videos of it if you would like to check the form and let me know. Is my row suppose to be higher than my bench?
Bench, i didn't struggle today, it wasn't easy, but not extremely hard. I got through the 3x5 with little struggle on last 2 reps on set 3, still got the weight up i had no spot so i had to lol.

Working out that routine with Andalite. I love the way it is, the whole SDT progression is def. a lot better than what im doing with the 5lbs per week. Thats fucking retarded, just have to tryout my 1RM's for:
Back Squat
Front Squat
Bench
Strict Military
Deadlift

Any suggestions on how to tryout 1RM's? Are my warmups going to be different? Do i start with the heaviest weight possible? Or say do 165lbs, if i get it then 170lbs, or do i jump to 175lbs? Andalite sort of went over it a little, but how would i try my 1RM's on my lifts?

fair enough about not wanting to ride to the gym then lol

thats fine is rows and bench are the same

 

[ark94]

So going to try my 1RM on Deadlift Monday.

Here is what im doing right now.

Deadlift
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 185lb.
1/5 - 225lb.
1/5 - 260lb.

If you saw my 260lbs form video, the first 3 reps were decent, last 2 not the best.

If i were to do my 1RM on Deadlift, what would the warmups look like? Something like:

1/5 - 135lbs
1/3 - 185lbs
1/2 - 225lbs
1/1 - 260lbs
1/1 - 275lbs
^ If i hit it
1/1 - 285lbs?

Not really sure how i do my maxes, never done it before.

 

[JDid23]

So going to try my 1RM on Deadlift Monday.

Here is what im doing right now.

Deadlift
1/5 - 135lb.
1/5 - 185lb.
1/5 - 225lb.
1/5 - 260lb.

If you saw my 260lbs form video, the first 3 reps were decent, last 2 not the best.

If i were to do my 1RM on Deadlift, what would the warmups look like? Something like:

1/5 - 135lbs
1/3 - 185lbs
1/2 - 225lbs
1/1 - 260lbs
1/1 - 275lbs
^ If i hit it
1/1 - 285lbs?

Not really sure how i do my maxes, never done it before.

You have to go by what you feel... For example: the most weight i ever put on the bar was 285 and i got that for 9 on deadlifts. When I went for my 1RM, I did:

Deadlift
135x5
185x3
225x2
275x1
315x1- PR
335x1- PR
355x1- PR
365x0 (bar didn't even budge)


335 felt easy, so i bumped it up 20 pounds.. 355 was kind of hard, so i bumped it up 10 lbs. You basically have to go by how you feel. If I were you, I would skip the 260 and go straight for 275. Haven't you hit 260x5 before? Maybe something like this (i am assuming you've hit 260x5):

135x5
185x2
225x1
245x1
275x1 (if you miss it, go for 265, if you hit it
285x1 or 295x1 depending on how hard it was

That's just a rough outline/example. That's also after doing hip mobility drills so you'll be pretty warmed up.

 

[ark94]

You have to go by what you feel... For example: the most weight i ever put on the bar was 285 and i got that for 9 on deadlifts. When I went for my 1RM, I did:

Deadlift
135x5
185x3
225x2
275x1
315x1- PR
335x1- PR
355x1- PR
365x0 (bar didn't even budge)


335 felt easy, so i bumped it up 20 pounds.. 355 was kind of hard, so i bumped it up 10 lbs. You basically have to go by how you feel. If I were you, I would skip the 260 and go straight for 275. Haven't you hit 260x5 before? Maybe something like this (i am assuming you've hit 260x5):

135x5
185x2
225x1
245x1
275x1 (if you miss it, go for 265, if you hit it
285x1 or 295x1 depending on how hard it was

That's just a rough outline/example. That's also after doing hip mobility drills so you'll be pretty warmed up.

Thanks Jdid, i neeed to shoot you a PM again about the mobility drills andalite wants me doing, all 10 of them.

I did hit 265 for 5 last workout, and i assume i am suppose to do this first before anything else? If i am hitting a 1RM, i should do that lift first? Cause after i have to do Squat and PP, or do i just deadlift that day? :S

 

[JDid23]

Thanks Jdid, i neeed to shoot you a PM again about the mobility drills andalite wants me doing, all 10 of them.

I did hit 265 for 5 last workout, and i assume i am suppose to do this first before anything else? If i am hitting a 1RM, i should do that lift first? Cause after i have to do Squat and PP, or do i just deadlift that day? :S

Imo you should skip 265 and go to something like 275.. From 275, see how you feel and maybe go for 295 or 300.

Also, i don't think you should go for two 1RMs on the same day. It's extremely taxing on your CNS, and you probably won't be able to perform as efficiently on the second exercise. However, referencing what andalite said it may be beneficial for you to do front squats after deadlifts. I'm not sure how that would work out with a 1RM though so maybe andalite can chime in.

 

[ark94]

Imo you should skip 265 and go to something like 275.. From 275, see how you feel and maybe go for 295 or 300.

Also, i don't think you should go for two 1RMs on the same day. It's extremely taxing on your CNS, and you probably won't be able to perform as efficiently on the second exercise. However, referencing what andalite said it may be beneficial for you to do front squats after deadlifts. I'm not sure how that would work out with a 1RM though so maybe andalite can chime in.

Alright i'll skip the 265 and try 275.

Its a bit messed, but i have only deadlift to max on Monday. But then Wednesday i have Military Press and Front Squat. Then Friday i have Back Squat, and Bench Press to max out on.

So should i go everyday and do say:
Monday - Deadlift
Tuesday - Front Squat
Wednesday - Military Press
Thursday - Back Squat
Friday - Bench Press

Suggestions?

 

[ark94]

1RM Deadlift Day​

Dynamic Stretches (given from Andalite)

Deadlift
1/5 - 135lbs
1/3 - 185lbs
1/3 - 225lbs
1/1 - 275lbs (fail)
1/1 - 275lbs (fail)
1/1 - 275lbs (fail)
1/1 - 270lbs (pr!!)

Squats (#11 Pins)
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 95lbs
1/3 - 115lbs
3/5 - 150lbs

Push Press
2/5 - bar
1/5 - 55lbs
1/3 - 65lbs
3/5 - 100lbs

Overall
Great Workout. Upset about the fucking deadlift, trying out my 1RM again next week, hopefully going to kill it and aiming for 275lbs atleast. Push Press wasn't that bad, i have a video of them, and my form was improved quite a bit!! I am not going nearly as far back anymore, i actually think i am just about spot on with pushing straight up.

 

[ExtraMile]

270 is an awesome deadlift bro especially considering how long you have been lifting! Good job

 

[ark94]

1RM Front Squats & Bench Press

(if i put 1/5 it means 1 set of 5 reps)
Bench Press
1/5 - 45
1/5 - 85
1/3 - 105
1/3 - 125
/12 - 135
1/1 - 145
1/1 - 155
1/1 - 165
1/1 - 170 (PR!!)
(I didn't want to attempt 175 because of the struggle on 170, and even though i had a spot just wanted to prevent an injury)

Front Squats
1/5 - 45
1/5 - 45
1/3 - 95
1/2 - 95
1/2 - 125
1/2 - 140
1/1 - 150
1/1 - 160 (PR!!!)
1/0 - 170 (fail)
(I could most likely have gotten 165lbs.)

I thought my form on front squats was really on par even at 160lbs.

Assistance (really wanted to get home earlier tonight, cut short)
Laying Leg Raises
1/20 - bw
1/20 - bw
1/20 - bw

Planks
1/45seconds
1/45seconds


Loved this workout!!! Felt soooo great benching 170

Tomorrow is Back Squat and Military Press 1RM day.
1/45seconds

 

[miked8c]

Damn 170? Thats impresive for your stats, you've got long ass arms too.

 

[ark94]

Damn 170? Thats impresive for your stats, you've got long ass arms too.

Lmfao! Thats why i was soo fucking happy. I thought it was great for being a lanky ass fuck

 

[ark94]

1RM Back Squat & Military Press

Mobility Drills

Back Squat
1/5 - 45
1/5 - 95
1/3 - 125
1/3 - 135
1/2 - 155
1/1 - 165
1/1 - 185
1/1 - 195
1/1 - 200

Military Press
Plate Halos 10 reps
1/5 - 45
1/5 - 85
1/2 - 95
1/1 - 105
1/1 - 115

Overall
Happy i got 200 on back squat, and 115 on military press. Bit pissed at the depth on back squat, and how far my arms went back on military. I DO have videos of them, i'll put them up in a new thread.

Skipped all my assistance and went home, i wasn't rushed i just really did not feel like doing the assistance today. I guess i am redoing my 1RM's next week, and then starting Andalites routine the week after =D.

 

[JDid23]

wow, great job squatting man- 200 is a hell of a milestone. Make sure that you don't compromise form on your 1RM- that's when you're most susceptible for an injury. Keep up the good work! Also, just a piece of advice- for squatting, don't do so many sets with reps that are so easy for you. 155/165/185/195 are WELL within 75% of what you got for your 1RM today. I wouldn't be surprised if you could hit 210 or 215.

 

[ark94]

wow, great job squatting man- 200 is a hell of a milestone. Make sure that you don't compromise form on your 1RM- that's when you're most susceptible for an injury. Keep up the good work! Also, just a piece of advice- for squatting, don't do so many sets with reps that are so easy for you. 155/165/185/195 are WELL within 75% of what you got for your 1RM today. I wouldn't be surprised if you could hit 210 or 215.

Thanks jdid. I don't think i compromised my form tooo much, check out the video if you have time though and lmk.
When i got to 165 on squatting, i was like wtf it was soo like. then 185 it was like hmm... so i didn't want to make a huge jump. I was pretty fatigued by 200 though, so i definitely will try to take out a few of those.

This part is just for my own reference.

Ok, for the record (so next week you don't mess up):..

Monday: Deadlift max and Front Squat max because you are at your MOST freshest (if thats a word) because Saturday and Sunday were off days
Tuesday: off
Wednesday: Squat max and Bench Press max
Thursday: off
Friday: Front Squat max again and Military Press max

 

[ark94]

So here are my 1RM's from this past week.

Back Squat - 200
Bench Press - 170
Deadlift - 270
Military Press - 115
Front Squat - 160

I am attempting all of them over again this week... but my question is should i be able to hit the same numbers? Higher numbers? Or will i not hit the same numbers? Is it bad if i didn't hit the same numbers?

 

[ExtraMile]

damn bro didnt realise how strong you had gotten lately, seems only last week u were squatting 95lbs lol

 

[ark94]

damn bro didnt realise how strong you had gotten lately, seems only last week u were squatting 95lbs lol

lmao i still look like i squat 95lbs... and im not that strong yet =(

Anyways a bit to talk about today on this workout. One thing i want to ask, im just hitting my 1RM's and going? Should i be doing anything else like say on Fridays i would do assistance like leg press calves etc... i didn't do that last week, should i be doing it? or is 2 1RM's in a day enough?

Next thing. Not sure how im going to get this done, but im having such a problem working out mornings, or in the afternoon. fuck, i find that if i go at nighttime i feel so much more energized i have no idea why. and i hear thats backwards to a lot of people lol. Is it bad to workout during at night or no? Especially coming home at like 10 or so and having a steak/my post workout meal then going to be by 12ish... i hate late nights but i find its hard to go during the day having no energy.

My workout today was a bit of a piss off.Though i have gotten to the point where i just leave it in the past. Now i don't give a shit about it. Anyways, I didn't have any exams today, so i sat at home and watched the soccer games all day. did the dishes made my own food etc, the normal when i went to the gym i thought i was feeling good. I got in and started fucking sweating and was exhausted just LOADING on the 45's onto the bar for deadlifting.


1RM Deadlift & Front Squat Week #2

Deadlift
1/7 - 135
1/5 - 175
1/5 - 205
1/3 - 235
1/2 - 255
1/0 - 275 (FAIL)
1/0 - 270 (FAIL)- couldn't even hit my old fucking max...

Front Squat
1/5 - 45
1/5 - 45
1/3 - 95
1/2 - 95
1/2 - 125
1/2 - 140
1/1 - 150 (felt a lot heavier compared to last week)
1/1 - 160 (didn't feel that heavy compared to last week)
1/0 - 170 (FAIL)


Overall
I have videos again of it, posted in another thread.
My deadlift was a bit of a piss off missing my old 1RM... Maybe cause i wasn't feeling up to par. Anyways, when you see the video you can see on 275 CLEARLY i get it up to my knees or so, and thats the sticky point where i can't get it up any further. But on 270lbs i again, CLEARLY get it to the same spot as 275lbs... but can't get it up any further wtf.... My question is, after you watch the video what muscles are used in getting it up past the lower knee and about the knee up the quads?

Front Squat when you see the vids i thought my form was very well especially for a max. any thoughts?

 

[JDid23]

Not sure if this is right, but i think your hips/glutes definitely play a part. I would definitely give pullthroughs a go and maybe some hip thrusts.

Also, it sounds like you had an off day- don't worry about it. Your current deadlift max means nothing in the long term and i would bet my ass that before or at the latest shortly after the summer that you'll be able to hit 3 plates.


EDIT: I would also venture to say that your CNS is tired as hell from last week. It's extremely taxing to max out for a week straight, but to do it for 2 weeks has got to hinder your performance.

 

[ExtraMile]

yeah why are u still maxing out?

 

[ark94]

yeah why are u still maxing out?

i actually am not sure why. I think its because i can't start what Andalite wants me to this week because i have exams, so nothing to do other than remax i guess. Plus andalite wanted me to test them again, so its just another 2 workouts then i start the new routine monday.

 

[ExtraMile]

why whats wrong with the old routine?

 

[ark94]

why whats wrong with the old routine?

Well as much as i liked it, this whole adding 5lbs a week im not sure its really what i should be doing. After reading up about the single, double, triple progression from an article Andalite gave me i thought it was great. I thought that was what i should be doing, so andalite made a routine for me. The whole adding 5lbs seems just to plain and old...

EDIT: I would also venture to say that your CNS is tired as hell from last week. It's extremely taxing to max out for a week straight, but to do it for 2 weeks has got to hinder your performance.

So i am very sorry to ask this but here it goes lol, probably newbiest questions ever. What exactly is my CNS? I never really caught onto it, but i know i have an idea.

 

[miked8c]

It means your Central Nervous System Strength. This is one of the reasons why powerlifters are so much stronger than bodybuilders whom may be packing 50lbs. more of muscle on them. To break it down for you I'll give you a little example.

You got two electric cars:

Car voltage represents Strength
Battery voltage Represents Muscle

6 volt car and a 12 volt car (If you aren't familiar with electricity the voltage of something is the maximum amount of electricity that object will allow to be used)

The 6 volt car represents the bodybuilder, it has an 80 volt battery in it.

-Although the 6 volt car has a much larger battery it can still only use 6 volts of electricty because that is the max voltage that can be used.

the 12 volt car represents the powerlifter it has an 18 volt battery.

-Even though the 12 volt car is using a significantly smaller battery it is able to use its battery more effectively because it can handle twelve volts.


In short CNS is your strength, your bodies ability to recruit muscle fibers to perform an action. Bodybuilders train their muscles, not there CNS, which is why they may be huge but are not able to lift as much as powerlifters who may be much smaller than them. This is because the powerlifters are able to recruit more of their muscle fibers in a lift then a bodybuilder can, they may have less muscle but they can use it more effectively. Similiar to how the car may have had a smaller battery(muscle) but could go faster because it had better CNS.

How does this relate to you, Ark?

Since you maxed for two weeks in a row your body's central nervous system is worn out from all the max effort attempt you had it do. It is no longer able to recruit as many muscle fibers as it was able to last week, so while you may think you have lost muscle you have in fact weakened your CNS strength and it needs time off from maxing out to recover itself.

 

[JDid23]

Fantastic post mike!

 

[Andalite]

Since you maxed for two weeks in a row your body's central nervous system is worn out from all the max effort attempt you had it do. It is no longer able to recruit as many muscle fibers as it was able to last week, so while you may think you have lost muscle you have in fact weakened your CNS strength and it needs time off from maxing out to recover itself.

Mike,

His CNS is not "worn out" from maxing two weeks in a row.

You guys want to do strength training but nobody wants to actually lift heavy weights at the maximal end of the spectrum.

Ark has never lifted weights in the maximal end of the spectrum therefore his body is not used to it. I've made him do the two maxouts for him to understand what it actually means to lift heavy weight. Come next week he will not be training at 100% of his 1RM but you can bet on it that he will be training above 90%.

I just made a huge post about this strength training thing in my log...I don't want to clutter up Ark's log but what you're saying is correct except it doesn't apply as much to Ark. Ark has never done 90%+ of his max in anything. So this is just new for him.

He'll be fine once he trains in the higher end of the spectrum more often. If you want to get strong you got to train to get strong.

Oh, and I really like your example about the PL'er vs. the BB'er, Mike...excellent example!!

 

[ExtraMile]

Well as much as i liked it, this whole adding 5lbs a week im not sure its really what i should be doing. After reading up about the single, double, triple progression from an article Andalite gave me i thought it was great. I thought that was what i should be doing, so andalite made a routine for me. The whole adding 5lbs seems just to plain and old...

andalite's idea's on progression may work well. You might do really well on it and yeah he backs up all his ideas with countless articles but you cant get away from the fact that this basic progressive overload training has worked for millions and especially when your a beginner it will work well, andalite even admits a beginner can do well with linear progression of 5lbs or a certain percentage of the 1rm being added each week.

but to each his own. I just think you should choose a routine and stick with it

 

[ark94]

andalite's idea's on progression may work well. You might do really well on it and yeah he backs up all his ideas with countless articles but you cant get away from the fact that this basic progressive overload training has worked for millions and especially when your a beginner it will work well, andalite even admits a beginner can do well with linear progression of 5lbs or a certain percentage of the 1rm being added each week.

but to each his own. I just think you should choose a routine and stick with it

I really do have to choose a routine now to stick with. I had rippetoes for a good 5months, and i now know im going to do the sdt progressions for atleast another 5months i believe.

Oh and that was a great post mike!! thanks for that, and i loved the comparison of the batteries and the bodybuilders haha! props on that

Andalite i think your right there, my CNS isn't really tired. i just found it was an off today.


I will post Wednesday workout thursday ish

 

[miked8c]

Haha good, kind of thought it was going to go over everyones head cause I suck at explaining shit but I am happy you understood it.

 

[Andalite]

Haha good, kind of thought it was going to go over everyones head cause I suck at explaining shit but I am happy you understood it.

It was a great allegory.

 

[ark94]

Alright finally im back on this! My last exam was yesterday, and now im done for the SUMMER!!! Finally holy shit lol

Before i get to my workout, funny story to tell!

So when i get to the YMCA i normally walk through the weights floor, check how busy it is then head on my way down to do mobility. Today it was pretty busy upstairs but like normal nobody should be in the room downstairs where you stretch, or do shit with medicine balls. So i get down the stairs, and i open the door to see 2 chicks in their. I walk in and im like FUCK this is retarded. I hate doing mobility with other people around. Anyways, the one chick was pretty large, the other had a pretty nice body lol. So i decide not to do hip thrusts till the end cause i know it was going to spark something, i do everything else and their still not gone. WTF!
So i go down onto the ground, and start doing hip thrusts. I paused my music for this part lmao cause i knew something was going to be said. So they start giggling and i wanted to stop but kept on going and was just saying to myself why me, why fucking me! The chick with the nice body comes over, and she's like, "Excuse, what exactly are you doing?". I lay for and think for a second, try to say something other than hip thrusts cause it would sound like sex practice lol. So im like, "Uh, hip mobility?". She's like, "Oh, okay cause it looks like your practicing having sex." I sit there and think in my head fuck. So i just respond, "Yeah, i normally come to the Y and bone the air for fun..." I wasn't really in the mood for a conversation lol i just wanted to get to working out, but after that they left thank god lol.


Okay, onto my workout. I injured my back during my workout on the 1RM Back Squat 200lb attempt. I got into the hole great, just came out a little weird, after looking at my video there was a slight GM and i felt a SHARP pain in my lower back right after that. I have a video of the lift, and where my pain was. Today i don't have that pain though

BACK SQUAT & BENCH PRESS 1RMS​

Back Squat
1/5 - 45
1/5 - 95
1/3 - 125
1/3 - 135
1/2 - 155
1/1 - 175 (got the biggest pump ever!)
1/1 - 200 (i got it up, but suffering in coming out of the hole)
1/0 - 205 (watch the video.. i backed out. to much back pain)

Bench Press (NEW PR!!)
1/5 - 45
1/5 - 85
1/3 - 105
1/3 - 125
1/2 - 135
1/1 - 145
1/1 - 155
1/1 - 165
1/1 - 175 (PR!!)

On the bench press, after attempting 165 i knew i could do 175. Weird thing though, i didn't get back pain until after i got up off the bench after every set. During the bench nothing... :S
I had a guy i know come and spot me in case, and i got down fine. On the way up i sort of paused in the sticky point, and it was going up but very slowly. His hands started to come down, but before i told him not to give me a spot unless i shout for one. His hands came down, sort of under the bar but he wasn't touching the bar at all, and i just exploded the bar up. He told me he gave no spot whatsoever, and that as soon as his hands went down it was like i didn't want him to touch the fucking bar lol so i exploded up.

Laying Leg Raises
3/20
(still no back pain, only when i got up)

Planks
3/45 sec. intervals

VIDEOS

Back Squat & Injury Spot - YouTube - Squat 200lbs form...wmv




Just a note, today nothing is hurting!

 

[JDid23]

Your current bench 1RM = my current bench 1RM

Also, it wasn't worth going for 200- should have gone straight to 205. I was the same way when i squatted 265 almost with ease, and got stuck in the hole at 275 when i was in the ATG position. I hit 275 the 2nd try after about an 8 minute rest + belt, but the moral of the story is that if you're going 5 pounds below your 1RM that you will absolutely be more fatigued for your next attempt at 5-10 pounds heavier.

 

[Tblock1]

damn nice work on 200 for squats ark! That story about the hip thrusts is hilarious though lol!

 

[Andalite]

Dude....you could have gotten with those girls if you had said something different....never allude to having sex with the air. You should've asked them to join you and feel the exercise for themselves....Atleast thats what I've done at my university...but then again chicks at university are different from high school girls so what do I know...

In any case....I'm gonna watch the video now.

 

[ark94]

Dude....you could have gotten with those girls if you had said something different....never allude to having sex with the air. You should've asked them to join you and feel the exercise for themselves....Atleast thats what I've done at my university...but then again chicks at university are different from high school girls so what do I know...

In any case....I'm gonna watch the video now.

Nah andalite lol i wasn't in the mood for anything lol. I know i could have said something different
I just felt like being a dick because she had a nice body but grosssss face lol

 

[Andalite]

Nah andalite lol i wasn't in the mood for anything lol. I know i could have said something different
I just felt like being a dick because she had a nice body but grosssss face lol

I know what you mean....thats fine. I'm just saying...never feel awkward. NGirls giving you attention is GOOD....just as long as they don't think you're silly...unless you're silly in a funny way lol