good numbers. how have the gains been?
Military press and bench are very good! Nice work. What is your weight and height at?
I believe i am either 6ft, or 6 ft 1 . My weight on friday was 160.00 lb! up 5lb. from the beginning of the week, since i started bulking =D
nice dude! I can't remember, but are you taking creatine? If not you should definitely take some, I was stuck at 6 foot 170, then literally a week after I started taking creatine my weight shot up, went to 6 foot 190 with ease![]()
damnnn nice man. I AM taking creating, however the monohydrate sucks i think. When i did 2 months ago for a month, the Cell-tech i got results easily. But now im on the mono-hydrate and im not getting ANY results at all, i have been doing the loading phase etc, i have done my 1 week 20g loading phase, then my 2 week 10g maintenance now im off it for 2 more weeks then start up again (apparently that is what im suppose to do :S) but this monohydrate sucks balls...
I was thinking after taking Purple K, or trying something else, any suggestions?
bro if you go on a bulk you'll be fine. You don't need to be taking all this stuff when you're just learning and bringing your lifts up; they're still low (not trying to sound rude so please don't take this offensively). Whey is more than sufficient. You will gain weight from the creatine and right when you get off of it, you will probably lose weight and your lifts might go down.
the concept "less is more" definitely applies to your case imo. Rippetoes is a solid program to build a foundation around and if you follow it, drink milk and water, and eat the way you're eating you will see gains without the creatine. Idk wtf Purple K is and i am sorry for saying this but it sounds like a drink that black people would have (no racist haha).
Keep in mind i don't have much experience with supps, but i can tell you that when you're starting out all you need is a good diet and a good routine, and you have both of that- no need to get fancy yet. Wait until you start stalling on lifts and then take it to help boost you. If you start stalling when you're on creatine and all this other shit, you might want to take more and more to the point where it's unhealthy.
All I know is everyone told me my lifts would go don and so would my weight when I got off creatine but it hasn't happened. There's no reason not to use creatine, but stick to the basics like jdid said.
weird, 3 of my friends who play football and 2 of whom wrestle competitively said their weight plummeted when they went off creatine.
alright, well i am just wondering now. I HAVE gotten past the stage of cardio, so do not mix this up. I only play soccer once a week, its on Tuesday nights, its just a league i signed up for a while ago, so it goes until May.
Anyways, i do not do any other cardio in the week other than soccer, and only exercise i do is weight lifting. Since i am bulking i understand im not suppose to be doing cardio, which is cool with me.
HOWEVER, what i need help on, is Tuesdays, Thursday, Saturdays, Sunday, what . the . fuck . .. am i suppose to do? Any suggestions that would help for lifts, or any suggestions at all. if i could get a job i would love to work those days... but hasn't happened yet.
socialise with friends and shit just enjoy yourself
although i admit im the worst at it, my rest days are mostly spent sitting around wishing it was a workout day lol
haha im a bit the same, i live outside of the city and can never get around without a ride.... so im just sitting around at home, helping out my parents, doing my homework and wishing it was summer so i can play soccer outside or bike whatnot.
I will continue on with what im doing now, it seems fine but when the weather gets better i would probably be outside every chance playing soccer if that is fine also, or biking.
Last thing, should i take pics each week? Like progress pics or w/e, idk if it would help with anything but yeah... seems homo so thats why i haven't posted anything in 2 months.
alright thanks man, i know anything can ruin the social life if taken to an extent, but only reason i say is because i live pretty far from the city, so getting around sucks balls. But yeah i will stick to soccer.
Okay, not completely off-topic. I have a question not sure if you guys can answer. It's about posture. I won't lie, my posture sucks somewhat. I am sometimes slouched, but not lately since i started this because my posture has been slowly getting better. But my question is when I'm working at a desk, or I'm sitting on the sofa and my laptop is in front of me on the coffee table and I'm typing on it, i tend to slouch/ round my back. My parents complain a lot about that, and i find it hard to site with a straight back when working on my computer... what can i do to help with posture? is it going to screw me up badly?
Monday, March 8th, 2010 - Workout A Rippetoe's 3x5
Squat - 125lb.
Bench - 120lb
Deadlift - 170lb
So i have a question about the squats. When i squat, do i want me weight center of my feet, or more towards the heals? I have a feeling im more on my toes... If im suppose to be on my heels, will i have to move the weight down and adjust to that?
Bench went great, i didn't have any spot or anything and it was pretty easy for 3 sets of 5. So i could probably be doing only do 125lbthis week then maybe bump it up next week.
Deadlift was good also, pretty damn hard but i like doing it and i believe my form is good. One thing im forgetting to do after my first 2 reps is squeeze my my shoulders.
Other than that, not much to say really. I have soccer tonight so that keeps me occupied along with homework.
.you want to keep on your heels. Sometimes it helps me to curl my toes up so i have to stay on my heels. Then, on your way up, push up off of your heels to help you get back up. If you go on your toes you're at an increased risk for injury and you're not using optimal form because your heels are a big part in getting the weight up.
Good job on bench- go up to 130
I have a feeling you can consistently go up on deads- when i stopped before soccer (after shitloads of deloading) i could deadlift around 205x5, but maybe 1 1/2 months later i deadlifted 225x4 without any warmup. Keep progressing- you're getting stronger and your body is acclamating to the lifts.
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On the bench, i know for myself i could probably go up to 130 and get a good 3x5 but would be somewhat hard at the end of the 3rd set. I may just try that on Friday.
As far as squat, yeah im going to try then curling my toes up, would probably help with the lift out of the bottom. And deadlifting i am consistently going up, just by 5lb each workout though. No more then 5lb because 10lb would be a bit over right now.
Oh, and my bulk is going great i think... however im bloating a lot, or im just gaining a lot of belly fat... w/e though i have to go and buy new shirts this weekend for the summer anyways, so im probably going to be some large's for when i bulk and keep them. I don't mind the stomach much, just pisses me off when kids think abs mean your jacked.... and that gets drilled into the head but meh, ill keep on doing my bulk the way im doing it. My lifting is becoming easier during workouts since im having more calories, and weights are going up consistently instead of stalling =D
what is your diet like? you should be drinking half a gallon of whole milk a day or more. Do you know what bodytype you are?
i mean give me a breakdown of what u eat in a day, i wasnt asking if its clean or not.
by bodytype i meant mesomorph, ectomorph, endomorph
you should drink full cream milk as in not skimmed or reduced fat in anyway, thats what i do and im an endo
full cream milk has 4.7g carbs, 4g fat and 3.8g protein per 100ml. This milk and whole eggs are my main sources of fat. I cut all the fat off any meat I eat...
But he is definitely an ectomorph and they don't respond as well to fats for growth. Lower fat milk actually has higher protein content generally too, and ectomorphs respond well to carbs for growth.
Hey i will answer your question tomorrow Extra, im off for a week so i will have time.
Wednesday, March 10th, 2010 - Workout B Rippetoe's 3x5
Squat - 135lb.
Military Press - 75lb.
Bent Row - 120lb.
Squats... well i bumped it up 10lbs. because i knew i could do it. However, it was hardddd, i got doing it and i could finish all my sets, but i had to push myself real hard. My form was decent, but i know i could get it a lot better. I am thinking, since i have a plate on i might stay at 135lb. for about 2 workouts or so, just so i can get my form better on squatting. Oh, and going on my heels, i tried it during my warmup sets... i couldn't do it, i fell backwards literally twice, luckily i gained my balance again, i didn't try it at all during the working sets because i would have fucked up badly.
Military was hard, i am guessing on both my squat, military, and bent row i know i could have done better, but i was feeling out of it today. Not sure why :S but it was fucked. hopefully friday goes better.
Just a quick question, tomorrow my parents and some family friends are going out to chinese buffet... i don't really want to go because its all crap foods... but im thinking i can probably pass that in because im younger and whatnot, is it fine to go and eat chinese?

So tblock you eat alot of fats, I eat a decent amount of fats why are you saying he shouldn't?
The only thing I am saying is not drink full fat milk if you already get 2%, all you are doing by eating full fat milk all the time is getting a little more artery clogging sat fats.
Dude, your training seems to be at a mental fuck. You don't think you can do anything, and you call yourself the "dumbest dumb kid out there". You're only 15 or 16 years old, and you have years to learn the lifts correctly. You're starting younger than basically anyone and you're starting the RIGHT WAY. Yes, your squat could use some help but at the same time, you have to realize you're doing a great job and give yourself a big fucking pat on the back.
Thanks man, everything i do is a mental fuck is what im told from my parents, and teachers and friends lol. i really have no confidence in anything i do.
Aside from that, i am going to squat again on monday, hopefully i can video it and post it up here. Just a question about my bent row, and my deadlift should i be using a double overhand grip or a overhand underhand grip? I tried over and under for my bent last week, and it went great. Seemed easier than double over, however when i deadlift i always do double over, would it be easier to do under and over grip? I am going to try both, but i just want to have some input here.
How can anyone on here tell u why u have shrunk? We are not medical doctors. But no it's not normal.
Are u doing the hypers?
Did u see my post about your diet or Bother to read my pm?
Just curious now, when bulking how long do you bulk for? and what are your goals?
am I right in thinking you weigh about 140ish now? If I was you I would clean bulk for the next year or so. what exactly are u hoping to look like?
Actually, before i started i was 153.5lb which was March 1st. Now i am 167.5lb. I have been clean bulking, atleast that is what i hope my bulk is. I had shown you what i eat, and is that not clean? Other than the yellows from eggs, and butter for the bread + the 2% milk i drink.
edit: let me say it like this.
I don't want to be scrawny, and i don't want to be the average person who works out at the gym. I want to standout. So like most of the experienced lifters on this site, they are bigger than the average gym people and whatnot. Here where i live, nobody is actually big like you guys, everybody is either really skinny with just abs and think there jacked, or just skinny with nothing.
like i said, breakfast should be 4 whole large eggs and 2 slices of toast with a glass of milk.
diner looks good but there is no source of carbs in there...you need lots of carbs for bulking.
Is that not what my breakfast is? I just cut it all up and put it in a bowl and eat it.
Carbs... what sort of carbs? That's what my dinner has been like since i started... It would be some meat, and that much broccoli.
hell bro, if you reallly feel uncomfortable, i'd drop to 95 pounds and go up 5 lbs per workout. You'll be up at 130 in 2 more weeks and probably have better form.
Congrats on deads. I have scrapes on my knees too
Also great accopmlishment with bench.Definitely kiling it.
Doesn't look bad. How many eggs in the sandwiches?
Just eat as much as u can bro. Like I said fast food sometimes would help. Pizza would help too until u get a bit bigger
Dude, if it takes you squatting the bar to squat with good form squat the bar. That's the logic one should have when performing a squat.
hell bro, if you reallly feel uncomfortable, i'd drop to 95 pounds and go up 5 lbs per workout. You'll be up at 130 in 2 more weeks and probably have better form.
Congrats on deads. I have scrapes on my knees too
Also great accopmlishment with bench.Definitely kiling it.
Dude- at this stage, i think after a really good rep that you feel went near perfect that you should put the bar back on the rack, and write down why you feel it went perfect. Idc if it's rep 1 or rep 5 because i think in the long run this will help you.
Rows you can stay at the 120 if you want. For Press, i would give 85 a try and see how it feels if you hit 80 for 3x5 twice. Did you try not to let the bar sag down during presses and if you did, how'd it feel?
Great workout today!!
Workout A - Rippetoe's 3x5
Squat - 95lb
Bench - 135lb
Deadlift - 190lb
Thought my workout went great!! Nothing much to say, squat went awesome, i know i definitely could have moved it up, but that is going to start Monday for sure. Just wanted to try some other stuff out today, and it went well. I really have nothing to ask.
Bench Press, awesome. No assistance needed, i am weighing if i should move it up or not. second workout and i didn't need a bit of assistance. It was tiring only on the last set, the 4th and 5th reps but i got through them no problem.
Deadlift nothing to say, i would say my form is great on that. I am staying infront of the bar with my shoulders, and i have been locking out simantanously.
I have a bunch of downsides now.. Making me depressed.
So i had a bloodtest done last week, and my results came back yesterday... My liver count is up, i don't know by how much but I am going to get all the papers Monday hopefully.
It sucks, my parents are just freaked a little bit. They think i am going to kill my organs in the process, and want me to stop. Just to go to the gym, do cardio, weights, eat good, and come home.... I don't want to fucking eat good, i want to bulk and you guys tell me not to do cardio so i don't.
I am getting a dietitian appointment made next week, and a doctors appointment to see whats up. What can i do???I want to keep on bulking, but my parents are saying no.... i know they care about me and all, and don't want my liver to get fucked but honestly, i don't want to be a skinny little shit.
Any suggestions? Do your guys liver go up when bulking? What can i do? I have stopped the creatine, mutant mass, and apparently protein powder??? Do i have to stop the iso, and casein protein? I know creatine and mutant mass i have to, and i don't care much about those but the iso and casein helps. Suggestions?
And what can i do about my liver? I want to keep on bulking.... but i have NO idea where this is headed...
EM, yeah i got your PM and i did just that during my workout today. It definitely was not easier, but i felt it just a tad more than before because i was not resting. Still went good though, i liked doing it that way because some reps i felt like i got some real power in my press compared to before. but some of them lacked. Thanks for the pm
Hah-Lay-Fucking-Loo-Ya.Great workout. Move your bench press up to 140. Don't get anxious with your squat- slow and steady wins the race. Move up to 100 and keep going up 5 lbs per workout. Which grip are you using for deads? double overhand or mixed?
Not sure what to say about your liver except that i hope you're okay!
if you cant take protein powder buy some skimmed milk powder and mix it in with your normal milk, this will allow u to double the protein and carb content of the milk
for breakfast carry on with 4 eggs, 2 pieces of toast and a glass of milk
at school an egg,chicken,turkey whatever sandwich or two is great, try to get around 200g of meat. then an apple later on with milk as a snack is fine
after school/pre workout eat again, either eat with your family or have some other decent quality meal
then if its a workout day post workout drink your shake, or just some double strength milk with some oats mixed in
then before bed cottage cheese and more oats or something like that with a handful mixed nuts
like i said drink milk between means. Nothing has to be set in stone, you dont have to eat the exact same every day.
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