Are strength gains from Halotestin CNS or actual muscle gains?

[solidj55]

Just wondering seeing as you get about nothing size/weight wise from Halo. I have heard from some that Halo is more of a CNS drug(which sounds right because of the strength gains and anger/anxiety/sleeplessness it produces)than anything. I know it makes you look hard if you have a low b/f %. Also, has anyone ever taken this by itself? If so what happened post cycle? What was the dosage/length of cycle?

 

[solidj55]

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[gunslinger11]

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[solidj55]

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[Ash]

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[nice6pac]

bump, i would imagine cns but i never chekced if u lfit more whikle on u build new muslce so its hard top tell

 

[MikeyG]

Hmm.. well, from my reviews/readings about Halo, nobody has stated about gaining muscular mass while on Halo-- However! most people that take it is usually before a powerlifing comp, or use it as a pre-competition drug-- with low caloric intake...

Maybe if you had optimal caloric intake-- and used halo, you might grow, if that's what you're trying to ask? I dont know about CNS-- whats that?

 

[ichabodcrane]

Just wondering seeing as you get about nothing size/weight wise from Halo. I have heard from some that Halo is more of a CNS drug(which sounds right because of the strength gains and anger/anxiety/sleeplessness it produces)than anything. I know it makes you look hard if you have a low b/f %. Also, has anyone ever taken this by itself? If so what happened post cycle? What was the dosage/length of cycle?

Basically it as methyltest with a 9 alpha-fluoro. fluoxymesterone is 5-10 times as potent as testosterone. It is very androgenic. It is not good for putting on weight, but rather better used for strength/hardening. It does bind CNS AR's and is good for pre workout. I don't think running it by itself would be beneficial, unless you just want the strength/hardness. It will suppress the HPTA as well.

 

[swoll4sho]

If it makes you stronger then it should be easy to gain weight if you are eating right.

 

[ichabodcrane]

If it makes you stronger then it should be easy to gain weight if you are eating right.

You would think so, but it is not a good mass builder IMO. I ran a 4 weeker alone, and didn't get much at all in the way of weight gains. It did add a really "defined" look, and I did get stronger. You make a good argument, but I just don't think it is a good mass sustainer. You would also think that because you get stronger your muscles would grow to some extent. I am sure this is true somewhat , but I think because it is so androgenic w/minimal anabolic properties this just doesn't seem to be the case. Because it has a 9 alpha-fluoro it can't metabolize to estrogen. I think it would be useful during a cutting phase to provide a more harder, dense look. Or during a bulking phase in conjunction w/ a good mass builder. I will say it shuts you down too!

 

[gunslinger11]

You would think so, but it is not a good mass builder IMO. I ran a 4 weeker alone, and didn't get much at all in the way of weight gains. It did add a really "defined" look, and I did get stronger. You make a good argument, but I just don't think it is a good mass sustainer. You would also think that because you get stronger your muscles would grow to some extent. I am sure this is true somewhat , but I think because it is so androgenic w/minimal anabolic properties this just doesn't seem to be the case. Because it has a 9 alpha-fluoro it can't metabolize to estrogen. I think it would be useful during a cutting phase to provide a more harder, dense look. Or during a bulking phase in conjunction w/ a good mass builder. I will say it shuts you down too!

were you able to sustain the strength gains.

 

[horsePOWER]

im starting to think more and more that halo might be worth a try. if you took it just before heavy lifting days say legs/back, like 2-3 times week would that have any impact? could you use it longer that way (6-8wks)? or just better off doing ED 4wks?

now with aggresion, i dont seem to get any kind of rage or aggression or anything close. be it high doses of effedrine or test, tren, dbol. think halo or even methyltest would have any effect on someone who isnt affected by anything else?

 

[solidj55]

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[strengthfiend]

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[solidj55]

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[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Combination of peripheral nervous system activity and increased mitochondrial productivity.

 

[solidj55]

Combination of peripheral nervous system activity and increased mitochondrial productivity.

In regular peoples words please lol.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Strength influence independent of muscle growth.

 

[solidj55]

Thanks man. One more question, how well does Halotestin really preserve muscle during cutting???

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

It does okay in that regard,but IMO var,primo or eq does so even better and with much less detriment to your health.

 

[solidj55]

I have always heard that Halo is really harsh so I am sure you are right about the health issue. I was just wondering if you took a lower dose of 10-15mgs/day for 6 weeks if it would be as harsh and if it would help to maintain some of your muscle. I have been natural for over 4 years now. WHat I mean is I have lifted for 6 years natural, 2 years I juiced off and on, then have been natural for the last 4 years. I was thinking of trying Halo for the strength/hardening benifits and the fact that the shit is really cheap. I would like to try Var but that shit is way over priced and
Primo is too. I would try Eq but I dont want anything that even has the possibility of turning into the big bad E.

 

[solidj55]

One more question(I think), how fast does the agression end of Halo kick in and what dose does it seem noticable? I have also thought about taking it just on a heavy workout day if its pretty much an instant thing for added agression.

 

[SicVic]

I read something where it actually acts as a preworkout at 10mg? True?? like I heard you can use it for aggression for competition at 5-10mg for day. How true is this?

 

[faridym]

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