anyone regret using 250 mg instead of 500 mg of sust on their first cycle

[rush]

Going to add sust to 300 mg of deca and think that 250
would be the best idea rather than the popular 500 mg
a week that most recommend, anyone with experience
with just 250 a week... I am patient

 

[rodman]

my first cycle was 250 all through with the exception of one week at 500. no regrets at all....

 

[Trevdog]

Yes

I regretted 250 so much that I upped it to 500 and then 750 for a week during the first cycle. I suggest you run 500 all the way.

 

[2Thick]

Use 250 and work hard. Using more just shows your faulty work ethic and impatience.

 

[kid]

doing 500 sus and 200-300 deca a wk. no regrets and loving it.

 

[Zilla2000]

Used 250mg for 10 weeks with a final gain of 7 lbs solid. Gained 25 lbs at peak but didn't have clomid or anything to finish it off with. How much are you looking to keep? I was completely clean at the beginning of cycle. No regrets at all.

 

[quest]

2Thick
Question for you
I have been looking to do 250mg sus week 10 weeks
the reasoning behind this is that i want to up my test level
to slightly higher then it would have been in my 20's (now in 30's)
i am trying for the most part to increase my strength more then size
1) is there a concern with water retention at this dosage
as i would like to stay same weight class
2) will i see a noticable decrease in strength once i finish the cycle.
I have been reading were bro doing higher test 500 750 1gram week have had
amazing strength increase only to lose it after.
3) is using clomid post cyle is required

 

[fczeuner]

I was considering doing 250 a week for my first cycle, but got hammered by about 20 people on this board for considering it.

I just made an order with my supplier for 500/mg a week of sust, 400/mg a week of deca, and 50/mg ed of winny starting from week 6-12 and d-bol for wk 1-4.

All my friends at the gym think I'm going to die.

If they read this board, they would see it's a mild cycle, even for a 1st timer

 

[roadruler]

my cycle was only 250 for 8 weeks. I did do 500 for 2 weeks just because I had 2 extra. Gained 21lbs. If I had to do it over again I would do it the same.

 

[rodman]

i did 250 for 5 weeks, 500 on week 6, then 250 for 7. this was my first cycle ever!! i put on 17lbs. and now a month later, i still have 13 lbs. of it, that's with no clomid or anything. i ate super clean, and trained like a motherf*cker!!!!

 

[Chris223]

Did any of you have any problems with gyno.. Or have to take nolva.

 

[ROAD DOG]

I did 250 per week and 300mg per week of deca.Both for 10 weeks,I gained 35 pounds.I ended the cycle 5 weeks ago and havn't lost a single pound yet.My strength is still increasing to this day!You can make great gains on small doses,but that leaves you with no room for error,you must eat good,get lots of sleep,and train hard.Always try to get the most gains on the least amount of drugs.

 

[ajc]

If you know 500mg is the popular thing to do, why are you even asking? If you are going to do 250mg no matter what, then don't waste our time ...but, if you are willing to listen then here you go:

I did 200mg deca and 250mg sos on my first cycle and looking back, I honestly do wish that I would've doubled it.

I would do the following:

week....Test....Deca (or EQ)

1...........750.....400
2...........500.....400
3...........500....400
4...........500.....400
5...........500.....400
6...........500.....400
7...........500.....400
8...........500.....400
9...........000.....400
10.........000.....400

 

[2Thick]

1) is there a concern with water retention at this dosage
as I would like to stay same weight class
2) will I see a noticeable decrease in strength once I finish the cycle.
I have been reading were bro doing higher test 500 750 1gram week have had
amazing strength increase only to lose it after.
3) is using clomid post cyle is required

1). The water weight will probably take you up a weight class temporarily. With the proper diet (and water intake) you will gain between 10-30 pounds on this cycle, so you might want to say good buy to that weight class for a while. I will warn you that calories, protein and carbo intake will determine how much weight you will gain, so 30 pounds doesn't come unless everything is done perfectly (or you got some damn good genetics..lol)

2). You might see a little decrease in strength, but I know my Olympic lifting buddy keeps most of strength from his cycles....although strength is related to water weight....

3). Clomid is not required but unless you used Clomid throughout, you may lose mass and strength afterwards because your natural test will be too low to sustain the new mass and strength. You might want to look at using clen to stay anticatabolic after a cycle if you do not want to use Clomid.

 

[smr91481]

my cousin took 250mg sust a week for 8 wks and made good gains. i know he didn't regret it. but...if i were you, i would go ahead and take the 500mg just for the simple fact that the rule of thumb is that your dosage of test should double your dosage of deca to avoid deca dick. 500 isn't 300 doubled but it's closer than 250. you'll make good gains w/ 250 but i'd rather be safe than sorry.

 

[IOWA BEEF]

My frist cycle was 500mg sust 200 Deca, I wish I would of done about 400mg of Deca.
I also would of added in D-Bol.

 

[SMS]

I did 500mg sust my first cycle, kept 15lbs. If I could do it over, I'd take the same, but eat better.

 

[juice4me]

dude my first cycle i did the recommended 500mg and am without a doubt convinced it was the best route. like they say you always wish you could do your first on again. do the 500 and through in some dbol if you have access. even if you dont its your first cycle with just sust youll do just fine.

 

[sureshot33]

"Gear", and not "Dedication"

I don't get it. Back in the day(Arnold's Time), individuals used to use Anabolic Steroids to "supplement" and already INSANE workout routine(routines that would make 90% of you vomit after 10min). These days, it's the fucking workout that supplements the mega-stacked-gear!!! I used 250mg of sus once a week for 3 1/2 months, and went from 235lbs to 295lbs. I had a great personal trainer, and I ate properly, and I ate like a mad man. Why don't you roid-junkies put down the syringe and re-evaluate how "wussy" your workout is.

 

[juice4me]

first of all this isnt 1970's. bro there is nothing wrong with a little help on the testerone side. im in the gym 1 and 1/2 hrs a day. eat 400 grams of protein and in the 20 to 30 grams of fat a day. i doubt seriously you gained 60 pounds in three months on that dosage. and theres nothing wrong about giving info to a man who asks. these are all just personal opions on experiences nobody asked for a lecture on how you feel on supplements.

 

[sureshot33]

Juice

I see your point,.......I didn't mean to be an asshole, and I apologize. I just think too many people rely "too" much on the roids to do all the work for them.

P.S. I did gain the 60 lbs. and since then have put on another solid 60. If I can get my b/f down to 8%, I'll be 6ft 7in tall, and 325lbs. So I do know a thing or two.

 

[juice4me]

sorry for the flame. it is entirely possible if you are 6'7 thats god damn giant size. hate to run into you on a bad day.

 

[Horny]

I seriously regret having ever used over 500mg. Just read my gyno poll post and you will see what happened.

 

[TESTOVIRON]

go 500 all the way!