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Anyone eveer used/heard of COENZYME Q10?

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Anyone eveer used/heard of COENZYME Q10?
Buddy just emailed me this website with this review on it, any gurus out there?


Coenzyme Q10:
It May Just Be the Miracle Vitamin of the 1990s


Copyright ©1995 by Jack Challem.
All rights reserved.





Heart disease. Cancer. AIDS. As unbelievable as it might sound, each of these deadly diseases often responds to a coenzyme Q10, a little known nutrient that can make a big difference in your health.


Granted, such "cure all" statements leave people wondering whether CoQ10 is just the latest panacea of the month. Rest assured: the benefits of this nutrient are well documented in the medical journals. It's one of the most frequently prescribed heart "drugs" in Japan and widely used in Europe-and one company even owns the patent for the CoQ10 treatment of AIDS.


Ask your doctor about CoQ10, though, and he'll probably say he's never heard of it. Part of the problem is CoQ10's name. "Most doctors don't know what a coenzyme is," said Karl Folkers, Ph.D., one of the researchers who pioneered CoQ10. Most biochemists know it as ubiquinone, an equally arcane name.


CoQ10 is a little easier to appreciate when you remember that vitamins function as co-enzymes in the body, furthering thousands of essential biochemical reactions. CoQ10's key role is in producing adenosine triphosphate (ATP), needed for energy production in every cell of the body. Secondary to that, CoQ10 functions as a powerful antioxidant.


This vitamin-like nutrient occurs widely in the food supply, though not always in significant amounts. In addition, each cell in the body manufactures CoQ10, though not always very efficiently. That means you may not be getting enough for optimal health.


"Like the vitamins discovered in the early part of this century, CoQ10 is an essential element of food that can now be used medicinally," explained Peter Langsjoen, M.D., a cardiologist in Tyler, Texas.


CoQ10 and the Heart


CoQ10 was discovered in 1957-relatively late as vitamins discoveries go-by Frederick Crane, Ph.D., now at Purdue University in Indiana. Four years later, Peter D. Mitchell, Ph.D., of the University of Edinburgh, figured out how CoQ10 produces energy at the cellular level and, in 1978, won the Nobel Prize for chemistry for this discovery.


By the mid-1960s, Japanese researchers recognized that CoQ10 concentrated in the myocardium, or heart muscle. Its role in the heart makes sense: the heart, one of the body's most energetic organs, beats approximately 100,000 times a day and 36 million times a year, and depends on CoQ10 for "bioenergetics." In the early 1980s, Folkers, director of the Institute for Biochemical Research at the University of Texas, and the late Per H. Langsjoen, M.D. (Peter's father), conducted the first study of CoQ10 in the treatment of cardiomyopathy, a form of progressive heart failure.


The findings were astounding. In a well-controlled study, 19 patients who were expected to die from heart failure rebounded with an "extraordinary clinical improvement," according to Folkers and Langsjoen's report in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the USA (June 1985;82:4240-4).


Case studies demonstrate the dramatic effect of CoQ10. In Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications (Jan 15, 1993;182:247-53), Folkers described a 43-year-old man suffering from cardiomyopathy. After being given CoQ10, his enlarged heart became smaller (indicating it was working more efficiently), and he was able to resume an "extremely active athletic lifestyle." The heart function of another patient, a 50-year-old man with very severe cardiomyopathy, returned after he took CoQ10, and he has since had "no limitations of activity."


Numerous other studies have confirmed the role of CoQ10 in treating heart failure, which is otherwise treated with drugs (such as beta blockers and ACE inhibitors)-or with a heart transplant. A sampling:



Sixty-five cardiologists treating 806 patients for heart failure or ischemic heart disease indicated "significant" benefits from CoQ10. (Langsjoen, PH, Klinische Wochenschrift, 1988;66:583-90.)

Twenty-five hundred heart failure patients at 173 Italian medical centers were given 50 to 150 mg CoQ10 daily for three months. Eighty percent of the patients had some type of improvement. (Clinical Investigator, Aug. 1993;71S:145-9)

A 12-month double-blind study compared 319 patients taking CoQ10 with 322 taking a placebo. CoQ10 reduced complications of heart failure as well as the need for hospitalization. (Clinical Investigator, Aug. 1993;71S:134-6).


CoQ10 and Cancer


Although CoQ10 is best documented in the treatment of heart failure, two recent medical journal articles suggest tremendous promise in the treatment of cancer. In Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications (April 15, 1993;192:241-5), Folkers described 10 cancer patients given CoQ10 for heart failure. One of the patients, a 48-year-old man diagnosed in 1977 with inoperable lung cancer, has been not had any signs of either cancer and heart failure symptoms while taking CoQ10 for 17 years! Another patient, an 82-year-old man, had been treated for colon cancer.


Knud Lockwood, M.D., a cancer specialist in Copenhagen, Denmark, recently described his treatment of 32 "high-risk" breast cancer patients with antioxidant vitamins, essential fatty acids, and CoQ10. "No patient died and all expressed a feeling of well-being," he wrote in Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications (March 30, 1994;199:1504-8). "These clinical results are remarkable since about 4 deaths would have been expected. Now, after 24 months, all still survive; about 6 deaths would have been expected."


Six of the 32 patients showed partial tumor remission, and two benefited from very high doses of CoQ10. One, a 59-year-old woman with a family history of breast cancer, had a tumor removed from her left breast. The cancer returned, but "stabilized" at about 1.5-2 centimeters (about 1/2 to 3/4-inch) in diameter when the patient took 90 mg. of CoQ10 daily. One month after increasing the CoQ10 intake to 390 mg. daily, the tumor disappeared. Mammography confirmed its absence.


Another patient, age 74, had a small tumor removed from her right breast. She refused a second operation to remove additional growths and began taking 300 mg of CoQ10 daily. Three months later, an examination and mammography revealed no evidence of the tumor or metastases.


Lockwood, who has treated some 7,000 cases of breast cancer over 35 years, wrote that until using CoQ10, he had "never seen a spontaneous complete regression of a 1.5-2.0 centimeter breast tumor, and has never seen a comparable regression on any conventional anti-tumor therapy."


CoQ10 and AIDS


One of the most remarkable findings was that CoQ10 supplementation could extend the lifespan of patients with acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS). In 1986, Folkers and Per Langsjoen began treating seven patients with HIV or AIDS. Not all of the patients consistently took CoQ10, but "the treatment was very encouraging and at times even striking," Folkers wrote in Biochemical and Biophysical Research Communications (June 16, 1988;153:888-96). "All 7 patients (3 AIDS, 4 ARC) felt better soon after starting on CoQ10," wrote Folkers.


It's with the treatment of AIDS that the medical story of CoQ10 turns into one of economic intrigue. The University of Texas, where the AIDS/CoQ10 research was conducted, applied for a "use-patent" for the treatment of AIDS. The patent (#1,011,858), one of several for CoQ10 and immune function, was granted on April 30, 1991. The use-patent gives the owner full patent rights to the nutrient when it's prescribed for the treatment of AIDS.


In 1993, the university sold the use-patient to James Ryan, an investment banker and one of the patients in Folkers' original cardiomyopathy study. Ryan, head of Ryan Pharmaceuticals, paid several hundred thousand dollars for the use patent, then sold it for an estimated $2 million to Receptagen, a U.S./Canadian biotechnology firm. The company plans to market prescription versions of CoQ10 for the treatment of AIDS sometime in the next two years.


How Much To Take?


So is CoQ10 a drug or a nutrient? Studies of patients with heart disease, cancer, and AIDS indicate that they are routinely deficient in CoQ10. Although CoQ10 is found in many foods, only organ meats contain significant amounts-but most people do not eat these foods. Can the body make up the difference? Folkers is doubtful. He recently observed that "many Americans do not have adequate levels of all the vitamins, coenzymes and trace elements for the multi-step biosynthesis of CoQ10 even for limited health and survival apart from optimum health and survival."


So if CoQ10 so good, why don't more doctors use it? Peter Langsjoen, M.D., recently ventured an explanation.


"The answer to this question is found in the fields of politics and marketing and not in the fields of science or medicine. The controversy surrounding CoQ10 likewise is political and economic, as the previous 30 years of research on CoQ10 have been remarkably consistent and free of major controversy," he explained.


"Although it is not the first time that a fundamental and clinically important discovery has come about without the backing of a pharmaceutical company, it is the first such discovery to so radically alter how physicians must view disease. While the pharmaceutical industry does a good job at physician and patient education on their new products, the distributors of CoQ10 are not as effective at this."


Therapeutic dosages of CoQ10 for serious diseases range from 200-400 mg. daily, ideally under a physician's supervision. It works in diverse conditions because the basic underlying mechanisms are the same-energy production at the cellular level and antioxidant protection against free radicals. In an interview, Folkers said that CoQ10 is safe and has no negative side effects, though it may decrease the need for other heart medicines. A common preventive dose ranges from 10-30 mg daily.





The information provided by Jack Challem and The Nutrition Reporter™ newsletter is strictly educational and not intended as medical advice. For diagnosis and treatment, consult your physician. And in case you were wondering, neither Jack Challem nor The Nutrition Reporter™ sell vitamins.
 
I've read a couple studies showing no increases in athletic performance between the placebo group and the Coenzyme Q10 group. Another article, I'll try to find it, showed that oral supplementation cannot get into the cells/mitochondria to offer any benefit to the heart or other organs.
 
I think it has more value for people over a certain age group frankly (over 30/35). There is a strong history of early onset heart disease in my family and that was why I started taking it. What surprised me was that once I started taking it, I have noticed I feel better, with an overall better energy level. IMO, it's too darn expensive to take if you don't feel it does you any good, though.

I think the manufacturer of the CoQ makes a difference, it might mean you're paying $10 or more a bottle but I really do believe you get what you pay for with supplements. And I really think you have to be willing to crank the doseage up. I'm 40 and I take 50 mg a day, but I really didn't notice any difference with less than that. My husband, who is 11 years older than me (I started him on it to help his BP), takes 100 mg a day.

CoQ is really kind of interesting, it's IN everything, literally, but it's exists in the HIGHEST amounts in organ meats, hearts, livers, and if you think about it, these are foods that used to be eaten regularly, and even considered delicacies, but now are hardly touched.
 
Agreed with musclemom about the age group. Up until your early to mid twenties you naturally produce around 300mgs. of CoQ10 which slowly starts to drop off as you age. There is some research showing it's positive effect on blood pressure:

http://www.inspiredliving.com/heart-cardio/coQ10-high-blood-pressure.htm

They mentioned the hydrosoluble form of supplementation for better absorption, which is probably why the better brands cost more. Well worth it if you're going to use the product.
 
COQ10 can be invaluable, not as much from a bodybuilding standpoint, but from a normal health standpoint. Normal output falls fairly rapidly as we age. Great antioxidant....take it with fats for utmost absorbtion.

It is one of just a couple ubiquitous substances, meaning it is nearly every cell in our bodies.

Anyone who is taking statin drugs should double up on the doseage, as they rob even more of your normal production.

There is no certain "age" where this magically becomes useful. The idea all should have always is to be proactive, rather than reactive. One day you will be older, and supplementing proactively may well help you live longer and age much better.
 
I'm a physician, and I take coenzyme Q-10. You shouldn't take it if you're getting chemotherapy because it can interfere with certain chemotherapeutic agents.

ANYBODY who is on a statin (Lipitor, Zocor, etc.) should be taking coenzyme Q-10. You should ask your physician about this. There have been reports of congestive heart failure induced by low levels of CoQ-10, which statins are known to do. They decrease CoQ-10 levels by an unknown mechanism.

I, too noticed an increase in energy when I started taking them.

It's difficult to get CoQ-10 from diet unless you eat solid organs such as liver.

A word of advice: make sure you take your CoQ-10 supplement with some sort of fat. It doesn't have to be a Big Mac, but at least take it with a meal that has a little fat in it. CoQ-10 requires fat to be absorbed. Some manufacturers package it with soy oil, but who knows if this works.

I take 50 mg daily. Some people cannot tolerate this because of GI upset. If you're on any medication, I would ask your physician about CoQ-10.
 
i took it when i was younger... read in some book that it was supposed to help combat free radicals so i added it to my supp list. have no idea if it had an effect or not . HAHAHA

I dont take it now.
 
MM107 said:
Anyone eveer used/heard of COENZYME Q10?
Buddy just emailed me this website with this review on it, any gurus out there?

I was taking that almost a decade ago now, when it first came out. It did nothing noticable for me at all. Must have taken it everyday for about 3-4 months.
 
swatdoc said:
I take 50 mg daily. Some people cannot tolerate this because of GI upset. If you're on any medication, I would ask your physician about CoQ-10.
Thanks for posting that info doc. :)

I do find the 'findings' to be beneficial but I haven't done much reading on it in the last few years. I use to take this supp maybe 4 years ago but like ^^ says, I could NOT tolerate it. Every morning in the bathroom at work :sick: ... everyone assumed I was prego :rolleyes:
 
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