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Anyone believe in chiropractic?
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They have their place but try to find one that looks at things more from an athletes perspective. I went to one years ago for low back pain. He adjusted me so frequently I ended up with hypermobility in my upper vertabras. I now see one that is a fellow body builder and she is great. Gives me just the treatment I need and thats it. Also make sure they diagnose you properly. My first injury turned out to be from torn ligimenets between L4 & L5
thesuaveone
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I have a very good friend that is a chiropractor, I'd never tell him, but many of them are nuts. I don't think a few adjustments a year is going to hurt, but when they start pitching for you to show up every week for an adjustment, I start worrying.
Personally, I don't use them any more because the last few adjustments I had seemed to worsen the problem I went in to have corrected. Other people I know swear by them, but I suppose it's a personal choice.
Personally, I don't use them any more because the last few adjustments I had seemed to worsen the problem I went in to have corrected. Other people I know swear by them, but I suppose it's a personal choice.
acneman
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yesmedrep said:
they can help with pinched nerves....
unless its a herniated disk
get the consult
if he can show you the spine misalingnment on the xray
he can help if not go see doc and get a second opin
this is a subject i know a lot about
if you have more questions or my answer is not clear ill be glad to help
thesuaveone
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My buddy the back cracker won't let his kids get vaccinated. He and his wife are under the impression the AMA are part of some huge conspiracy. They also limit their kids milk intake for some unknown conspiracy theory as well.
Many of his chiropractic friend are very big into homeopathic medicine.
Don't get me wrong, some of it works, but like you mentioned, when they start trying to tell me that giving me an adjustment will help prevent or even cure cancer, I start backing away.
Many of his chiropractic friend are very big into homeopathic medicine.
Don't get me wrong, some of it works, but like you mentioned, when they start trying to tell me that giving me an adjustment will help prevent or even cure cancer, I start backing away.
medrep
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well there is really 2 issues
the pinched nerve in my lower back bothers me at night when i try to go to sleep, i keep feeling electrical pulses shoot down to my toes that keep me up
i think my posture is also a little twisted when i look in the mirror
i hope they don't want me to go 3x a week my copay is like $30!!
the pinched nerve in my lower back bothers me at night when i try to go to sleep, i keep feeling electrical pulses shoot down to my toes that keep me up
i think my posture is also a little twisted when i look in the mirror
i hope they don't want me to go 3x a week my copay is like $30!!
mrcashcream
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I go to the chiro 3 times a week and it does wonders for my well being and conditioning. Coming from a family with a history of back problems, it feels great to get your spine loosened up a bit as mine tends to get pretty tense, especially after a training session. I 100% recommend chiro for you, especially if you've got a pinched nerve, it will help get your nervous system back on track and by fixing the subluxation, it will ease up the nerve...you wont regret it.
mrcashcream
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You should be able to have a free consultation, and the good ones will do either an xray or a heat graph. The heat graph will show each spine ligament and where exactly you need fixed. Give it a try, and good luck to you bro.
njmuscleguy
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in a word.... YES YES YES YES and YES!
I've had shoulder / upper back problems for years... along with c-spine impingement... a few years ago, I had MRI's done... I was seeing an orthopedic surgeon, a PT, and my general pract.... none of them were able to help much... I started seeing a chiro and within a month or so the pain was pretty much gone and I felt a whole lot beter.... I made the mistake of stopping chiro treatments for half a year after that... and things started to get bad again... on top of that, I was getting wicked wicked headaches...
I just started seeing a new chiro... he took some x-rays and showed me that my c-spine was in bad shape...it was straigtening out (as opposed to the natural curve it should have)... he also pointed out that my posture was really bad, with my shoulders severely slouching forward due to an over-developed chest... anyhow, I'm now seeing this chiro 3x's a week for about a month or so, then it will be once or twice a month... and he's also giving me physical therapy excercises while I'm there...my posture is better and the headaches are become less and less frequent
In summary, chiro's often can point out things that regular MD's don't... and they won't pump you fill of meds or suggest surgery as the only course of action... definitely worth at least a consulation... a chiro's been a god-send for me!
I've had shoulder / upper back problems for years... along with c-spine impingement... a few years ago, I had MRI's done... I was seeing an orthopedic surgeon, a PT, and my general pract.... none of them were able to help much... I started seeing a chiro and within a month or so the pain was pretty much gone and I felt a whole lot beter.... I made the mistake of stopping chiro treatments for half a year after that... and things started to get bad again... on top of that, I was getting wicked wicked headaches...
I just started seeing a new chiro... he took some x-rays and showed me that my c-spine was in bad shape...it was straigtening out (as opposed to the natural curve it should have)... he also pointed out that my posture was really bad, with my shoulders severely slouching forward due to an over-developed chest... anyhow, I'm now seeing this chiro 3x's a week for about a month or so, then it will be once or twice a month... and he's also giving me physical therapy excercises while I'm there...my posture is better and the headaches are become less and less frequent
In summary, chiro's often can point out things that regular MD's don't... and they won't pump you fill of meds or suggest surgery as the only course of action... definitely worth at least a consulation... a chiro's been a god-send for me!
SwolK
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for me the chiro was a waste of time and money. saw him for 3 months, he tried telling me that i had scar tissue in my back. after 3 months of no improvment, i went to a physical theripest, and he correctly diagnosed me and fixed the problem in 1 day...
just my personal experiance.
I believe others have had good success from them, just not me
just my personal experiance.
I believe others have had good success from them, just not me
njmuscleguy
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the thing is, it takes that ONE medical practitioner, whether an MD or a Chiro to accurately diagnose the problem... that's the first step... a step that often gets botched up... after a proper diagnosis, then you can determine if it's something that can be corrected with chiropractic care or with PT or ultimately surgery. However, any doctor that immediately tells you that surgery is the only option or if he wants to load you up with cortisone injections, I would get a second or even third opinion. Chiro's can't cure every problem, but the care they provide does truly have merit. Doctors and Chiro's are like oil and water, they don't mix well... they constantly bash each other... at least the doctor I see now acknowledges the benefits of chiropractic care and the chiro I'm seeing now doesn't think all doctors are quacks. We're all on the same page!
justinjones1963
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bilter said:
Hyper-mobility is the BIGGEST issue I have with chiros. They pop the vertebrae but that is only 1/2 of the treatment. The other half is doing the necessary exercises to stabilize the area so the injury doesn't happen again.
My lower back was hurting for a while and I got it popped but he didn't hook me up with what exercises to do etc. My lower back was all over the place afterwards. A physical therapist set me straight.
I think a chiro is good for initial treatment to manipulate the area but a Physical Therapist that is certified (or has experience) with physical manipulation is by far better. Not only will they pop you they will train you to set the physical foundation you need.
jerichohill
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If you want the best of both worlds, go see a D.O. Doctor of Osteopathic medicine. They are regular doctors but with a whole body healing approach to medicine. They also are able to use some of the same techniques as a Chiropractor, it's called OMT, and its every bit as good as seeing a chiro. The cool thing is if you need a script or need other medical intervention a D.O. can either treat you or refer you to a specialist. My family doc is a D.O and he will pop, crack, and twist me back in shape if I want without all the b.s. of daily Chiro visits.
If you don't have or want to see a D.O. Chiropractic medicine does have its place, but I find that alot of Chiropractors, well maybe not alot, but a few like to get you coming in more than you actually need. They do help quite a lot of people, just find a good one or a D.O.!
L8R!
If you don't have or want to see a D.O. Chiropractic medicine does have its place, but I find that alot of Chiropractors, well maybe not alot, but a few like to get you coming in more than you actually need. They do help quite a lot of people, just find a good one or a D.O.!
L8R!
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Major believer in chiro docs. But, not the 'bone cracking/twisting" ones. Check out the ones that use the Activator Method. I almost stopped going to them until I learned about this method of chiropractic. Go to www.activator.com and check out their method and see if there is a doc near you.
BountyHunter700
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Don't like 'em
mrcashcream
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The Activator is what my chiro uses, really loosens up tension, especially in my neck, without cracking. Good stuff.
Like any other doctor, a good chiro can help a lot, a bad one can screw you up worse than you were to start with. IMO, ask someone you know who's seeing a chiro that helped them, even if they've been seeing that doc for years. Don't just pick a chiro out of phone book, if you can.medrep said:
They way the therapy works is you usually see them several times a week for a month or two, until the immediate problem gets straightened out. Then you taper down and either quit or go into maintenance mode. I have back problems that I was born with, my back is screwed up forever, and nothing will ever fix it, not even surgery. I see my doc once every three weeks (unless I screw myself up) and I stay pretty mobile and my pain levels stay tolerable. Now my husband was in a couple of bad car accidents years ago, but his back isn't nearly as bad as mine, nothing is deteriorating, no problems he was born with so he only goes about once every 6 weeks.
I just pay cash because my doc gives me a discount if you pay for several visits up front, ends up being WAY cheaper than co-pays.
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medrep
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i picked one off my insurance website
The first thing he said was my PB was a little high LOL!
apparently i have 2 discs starsting to slip lower neck and lower back that is correctable with his program. he took xrays then put these electro shock pads on my back for 20 minutes, then got to poppin
i've always popped my neck myself but sh*@ I can still feel what he did today. that dude knew exactly how to get just the right spot. I just laid there for a few minutes after, total release like after a big nut
The first thing he said was my PB was a little high LOL!
apparently i have 2 discs starsting to slip lower neck and lower back that is correctable with his program. he took xrays then put these electro shock pads on my back for 20 minutes, then got to poppin
i've always popped my neck myself but sh*@ I can still feel what he did today. that dude knew exactly how to get just the right spot. I just laid there for a few minutes after, total release like after a big nut
my guy is a former member of the us powerlifting team. has pics up all over his office of himself and friends during big meets. his background is why i see him. works from an athletes persepctive and also does the sickest ART sessions with stem pads. if the chiropractors are knowledgeable of your need as an athlete they can be extremely beneficial.
Sassy69
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I agree w/ the above guys - I grew up w/ my mom telling me chiros were "fruitcakes" so never went. Not that I had a reason, but never went. When I started competing there was a chiro w/ an office in the gym - I went a few times when I had some aches from lifting - but mostly I ended up using their massage therapy - but for the most part this guy manipulated my insurance more than my vertabrae. I dated a massage therapist so was spoiled rotten for a few yrs and became a huge believer in massage therapy. I'd call mega bullshit on any chiro who DIDN'T recommend working w/ an LMT as well becasue you can't shove bones into position and expect your muscles to just blindly hold them there.
Two years ago I experienced a rotated pelvis that ended up stretching one side of my hips & scrunched up the other, resulting in some pretty extreme soft tissue problems and a really tight ilio / psoas / piriformis area. Anyway, I spent a lot of time looking for a good ART guy, but ended up finding a great chiro who fixed it all w/ the help of some great LMTs.
But you really need to find the guy who isn't full of shit and works with you. Sometimes its not something a chiro can fix, but if they can help identify, then maybe an LMT or a PT can do what you need. It isn't always quick cut & dried identification of the problem but listen to what sounds like the guy is just going to keep cracking your back or actually help you.
Two years ago I experienced a rotated pelvis that ended up stretching one side of my hips & scrunched up the other, resulting in some pretty extreme soft tissue problems and a really tight ilio / psoas / piriformis area. Anyway, I spent a lot of time looking for a good ART guy, but ended up finding a great chiro who fixed it all w/ the help of some great LMTs.
But you really need to find the guy who isn't full of shit and works with you. Sometimes its not something a chiro can fix, but if they can help identify, then maybe an LMT or a PT can do what you need. It isn't always quick cut & dried identification of the problem but listen to what sounds like the guy is just going to keep cracking your back or actually help you.
Triple J
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i'd rather get cracked by a chiro cause they see more patients to crack than the d.o.'s or pt's ... after all cracking is their specialty so they get alot more practice at it. its interesting it used to be the PTs and doctor's used to say manipulation was worthless but now they all want to get in on it. besides adjusting both manually and with an activator, my chiro does soft tissue (ART) and rehab work (PIR, exercises), so he basically addresses the issue from all angles. muscle imbalances and core weakness contribute to peoples problems a great deal. address those areas and the adjustments will "hold" much better.
also i know people do not like the hard sell but its not really fair to expect to be cured in one visit, I know that happens sometimes but, since they are trying to get the body to heal itself, that will take a little time to happen, just like any rehab process.
one other thing about xrays .. there are many problems that will not show up on xrays .. so don't think if you don't see it on xrays then they are feeding you BS. by the time it is on the xray it is probably irreversable ... except for posture issues .. but you don't need an xray to evaluate posture. the main reason for taking an xray is to rule out advanced degeneration, cancer, infection, congenital defects, etc.
ask around and find a good one there are some who have different specialities that get a little weird like homeopathy and AK but remember there are people out there that swear by those things, too - just find the one that has the right mix of skills for you
also i know people do not like the hard sell but its not really fair to expect to be cured in one visit, I know that happens sometimes but, since they are trying to get the body to heal itself, that will take a little time to happen, just like any rehab process.
one other thing about xrays .. there are many problems that will not show up on xrays .. so don't think if you don't see it on xrays then they are feeding you BS. by the time it is on the xray it is probably irreversable ... except for posture issues .. but you don't need an xray to evaluate posture. the main reason for taking an xray is to rule out advanced degeneration, cancer, infection, congenital defects, etc.
ask around and find a good one there are some who have different specialities that get a little weird like homeopathy and AK but remember there are people out there that swear by those things, too - just find the one that has the right mix of skills for you
Gotta agree with Swolk, once upon a time I actually TRIED to find a D.O. who does manipulation and LITERALLY had SEVERAL laugh at me. The general response was, "Good God, No."usapitbullz said:
Gotta tell you USA, you have found a SERIOUSLY rare gem. My parents used to go to an old school D.O. too, and they both thought he was the total shizznitz
the best physician they had in their entire lives.welloiledmachine
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I have a pre-med degree/Exercise Physiology and work as a Orthopedic Rehab Specialist in a very large physical therapy practice. Chiropractors are magicians, they don't fix anything. They only manipulate joints which give temporary relief. First off, you probably injured your siatic nerve when squatting. The sciatic nerve runs directly through the piriformis muscle , and if you were not stretched properly you may have pinched it. This can be fixed with an aggressive stretching routine. The piriformus stretch helps, you can google it and find pictures. If anything go see a sports specific physical therapist, Chiropractors are crazy.....
njmuscleguy
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welloiledmachine said:
Spoken like a true PT! Well, I hate to break it to you, but I saw a "sports-specific PT" for my knees and shoulders and c-spine for over a year and got NO relief whatsoever... I was also seeing a "top-notch" Orthopedic Surgeon from NYU at the time, and he said I should have arthroscopic surgery on one of my knees to fix some tears... both knees had tears...he did the surgery but didn't wind up fixing the tear, said it wasn't "bad"...to this day, my knees still bother me, I just deal with it.... needless to say I never went back to get my other knee done... as for my shoulders and c-spine, he ultimately said my options were surgery or cortisone injections... I'm of the firm belief that unless dire, surgery should always be the LAST option..
Anyhow, I've seen 2 different chiro's since then and I have to say that although they haven't "magically" fixed the problems 100%, I have much more relief than I ever have.... whatever it is they're doing, it's working. In fact, the chiro was the only person that was able to pick up on the fact that I had a straightening of my c-spine, which was causing a whole host of problems. Doctor's and PT's can throw out whatever medical jargon they want, when it comes down to it, the proof was in the actual results I got (or didn't get).
To each his own... it's just good to know that there *are* options.
JeepMonkey
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I personally would never go see a chiro that didn't have a massage therapist in his office. Chiropractic work will not hold if the muscles are too tight. If you get an adjustment while your muscles are tight, the muscles will eventually just undo what the chiro just did. I'm a huge beliver in massage work before anything else. PT's are great if they are well rounded (massage, pt knowledge, some adjustment abilities, etc.) Good luck with all of your therapy.
JM
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