Anybody think it's NOT essential to use Test as base of any cycle?

[John Juan]

I believe it's best NOT to add test to the first few cycles you do, but almost everyone will disagree with me because internet consensus says differently.

I agree with you.

 

[stevesmi]

I personally, blast and cruise, so test is essential for me. I have been on test for 4 strait years and don't see myself every coming off. 1 of my recent blasts I did do 600 tren e per week and 200 test cyp. Wasn't bad at all. But I will stick to test as a base for me. Each their own. You just got to figure out what's best for you.

even if you blast and cruise it doesn't mean you have to use test as a base for your blasts. or your cruise for that matter. test is perfect for a cruise obviously (tren is too harsh) for example and test has the perfect anabolic/androgenic ratio and isn't high on one or the other. so guys like to use that.

 

[John McLane]

Ok guys what would be a good cutting stack without Test? I can't handle tren so I guess that leaves Anavar, Winny, Masteron....

 

[dylangemelli]

Primo, eq, mast, winstrol, gw, s4 and lgd... www.sarms1.com

 

[John McLane]

Primo, eq, mast, winstrol, gw, s4 and lgd... SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators

Thanks Dylan...would I need Proviron throughout? I guess the answer is no if using Masteron?

 

[stevesmi]

proviron and masteron are almost the same thing

 

[John McLane]

proviron and masteron are almost the same thing

So would the following stack be ok:

Masteron 400mg p/week 1-12
Winstrol 50mg p/day 1-6
Anavar 50mg p/day 6-12

With HCGenerate from the start and HCG/Clomid/DAA/decent test booster when coming off.....

 

[John McLane]

Sorry peeps I'm bumping this as I want to make sure the course I've suggested is ok...hope someone can help, thanks.

 

[John McLane]

Testosterone is not required in a cycle at all. I do incorporate it all the time at varying doses, but it's not completely necessary. If you use the right compounds stacked together with the right supports, you will be completely fine with a healthy libido function and great gains. Adding Test to some cycles will just add to side effects anyways.

How does this sound:
So would the following stack be ok:

Masteron 400mg p/week 1-12
Winstrol 50mg p/day 1-6
Anavar 50mg p/day 6-12

 

[digit0x]

Don't need it at all, but test is great.