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any Mozilla users on here?

Use, yes. Like...so, so. I do like the tabbed browsing. The Firebird version is kinda nice as it's fairly lean in size.
 
rjl296 said:
im on it
wtf is tabbed browsing

Opening up new browser windows as a "tab" in the main browser window. Kinda hard for me to explain. No mental capacity left in me today. Don't mind me while I sit here and drool on my keyboard.

....Otherwise you have (or at least I do) 30 open IE windows littering your screen. I always do "Open in new window" when I click on links.
 
I'm using Mozilla Firebird right now. I like it, the only 2 problems I've came across is that the scroll wheel on the mouse doesn't work all the time to scroll pages.

The other problem is that on certain things like sending karma, the browser will SOMETIMES say "Mozilla doesn't recognize this file, what should be done with it".

Other than those 2 things, I enjoy it.
 
I have Mozilla, Firebird, and IE.

I hate Mozilla - it is slow and bloated, and I only use a small chunk of all that it does.

So then I started using Firebird. Firebird is slow, but not bloated. It is all Java, so it won't recognize the scroll mouse, as aap (different than AAP) said, but I think they are trying to add hacks in to work with that. And by "work", I mean "work some of the time".

I liked them at first because it had a better Google toolbar (not affiliated with Google) and it blocked pop-ups.

But then Google made their toolbar better and the new now blocks pop-ups - so I went back to IE.
IE is faster and uses way less RAM and processor on my system.

The Karma error is because it doesn't always get the proper mime encoding type sent out from php - IE had problems similar to that in the past (if a php page was spitting out XML, it would get confused by that and not render it properly).
IE has since patched them.

For the most part, I don't do anything in IE that will get me viruses or the like and I deny nearly all attempted installation of ActiveX controls - so I like IE.
For the dipshits though (like my mom) that can't get that stuff and they don't seem to notice things like how fast it is on your system - then perhaps Mozilla or Firebird is a good way to go.

It runs on Linux and gives you a mail and news client, so that is good I guess.
 
NoDaddyNo said:


The Karma error is because it doesn't always get the proper mime encoding type sent out from php - IE had problems similar to that in the past (if a php page was spitting out XML, it would get confused by that and not render it properly).
IE has since patched them.

And how many people on Elite just heard a series of whistles and clicks at this point in the thread?
 
mozilla is the browser part of Netscape (in other words no mail, composer, etc.)

and for some reason it runs slow as shit on my machine, so i never use it
 
jerkbox said:
mozilla is the browser part of Netscape (in other words no mail, composer, etc.)

and for some reason it runs slow as shit on my machine, so i never use it

To be fair to them, they have made it way better with each release - it gets faster and uses less RAM - I have downloaded it on and off to check up on it and was impressed each time with the progress.

Just currently not impressed enough to switch over again.

That said - it is great if you want to have alters on Elite, just use Mozilla for one, Firebird for another, and IE for another - they all have their own cookie space, so you get 3 possible unique users at the same time without having to log out.
 
NoDaddyNo said:

That said - it is great if you want to have alters on Elite, just use Mozilla for one, Firebird for another, and IE for another - they all have their own cookie space, so you get 3 possible unique users at the same time without having to log out.

Now all the internet sleuths will be trying to figure out exactly how many accounts are yours...
 
TheProject said:


And how many people on Elite just heard a series of whistles and clicks at this point in the thread?

not me, I just started humming in my head and rocking back and forth slightly.
 
Good info there NoDaddyNo.

I also like IE better, but my scroll and typing slowed down to a snails pace. I tried everything to fix it, but in the end it was the browser, so therefore I switched.

The M Firebird has small icons and thus sits nicely at the very top of my screen without taking up half the screen area with needless stuff.

That was my deciding factor....not the performance and reliability, but rather how pretty it looked.:D
 
alien amp pharm said:
Good info there NoDaddyNo.

I also like IE better, but my scroll and typing slowed down to a snails pace. I tried everything to fix it, but in the end it was the browser, so therefore I switched.

The M Firebird has small icons and thus sits nicely at the very top of my screen without taking up half the screen area with needless stuff.

That was my deciding factor....not the performance and reliability, but rather how pretty it looked.:D

Interesting - IE is in C++ and uses built in toolkits for Windows, whereas the Java based Mozilla has an abstraction layer on top of all of that running in a virtual machine... so be definition, Mozilla has to do much more to run.
So I'm very suprised that your IE is slower - sounds like a case of more things being on there than just IE - perhaps plugins and the like slowing it down - don't know.

I use Komodo, which is an IDE that is built on the Mozilla engine - I can literally type about 200 characters ahead of what it buffers to the screen - it is incredibly annoying. It is a good enough IDE for Perl that I stick with it when I need to debug something or write something very long - but as I'm actually typing the code, it is an exercise in mental coding ability I guess.

As for the icons - My IE has smaller icons than the smallest icons in Mozilla. I also push everything up so that it is as far to the top as posssible, and there is no text on the buttons.
The top row has the File, Edit, etc menu, and then off to the right and overlapping everything I don't use is the Address bar.Below that are my quick links and then below that is the Google toolbar.
Mozilla actually wouldn't let me control the bars as much as IE, so it had less viewable screen real estate.

Also, one of the most annoying things about Mozilla/Firebird for me was the lack of a throbber. The "throbber" is what lets you know a page is loading - the waving Windows flag in my IE up at the top lets me know it is working away.
In Mozilla/Firebird, you get an hourglass mouse cursor, which in Windows means the program is "thinking" and too busy to multitask to do anything else - which is not the same as loading a page.

Anyway, in the end, while I was at first pleased with the ability to block ads, the rest of the stuff annoyed me too much and once the Google toolbar started blocking ads as well, I was back to IE.

If you use myie2 (www.myie2.com) it will block popups, block some banner ads, and also allow skinning and the like.
Never tried it out my self - but it looks like it is a combination of Mozilla and IE.
 
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