mountain muscle
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cindylou said:Long or short answer? Do you really want to know what I think about that?
You really want me to have to ask every qestion twice?
cindylou said:Long or short answer? Do you really want to know what I think about that?
cindylou said:Why the KJV 1611 is the Word of God:
God Promised to Preserve His Words
(I Cor. 14:33).
The Authorized Version Was Translated Under A God-Ordained English King
Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?" Unlike the modern versions, the KJV was translated under a king. In fact, the king's name was "James," which is the English word for "Jacob," whom God renamed "Israel," because he had power with God and with men (Gen. 32:28).
Because It Has No Copyright
The original crown copyright of 1611 does not forbid anyone today from reprinting the Authorized Version. It was only copyrighted then for the purpose of allowing the printer to finance the publication. For nearly four hundred years now we have been printing millions of copies of KJV's without requesting permission from anyone. Over eight-hundred million copies of the Authorized Version have been printed without anyone paying royalties. This cannot be said of any of the new translations.
The new "bibles" are the work of MEN, but the KJV is a divine work of the Holy Spirit. The term "Authorized" has traditionally been applied to the King James Version alone, for this is the one Book which the Holy Spirit has blessed and used for so long. The fact that it bears no copyright allows printing ministries throughout the world to print millions of copies each year for the mission field. I know the King James Bible is the word of God because it has no copyright.
Some copy /paste stuff in there from this site. If you really wanna read it here:
http://www.av1611.org/kjv/knowkjv.html
Because i could go to the work to explain it or copy and paste all of that and you not even read it! lol.
Again, this is my belief.
cindylou said:Why the KJV 1611 is the Word of God:
God Promised to Preserve His Words
Psalm 12:6-7 says, "The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever." Then we read in Psalm 100:5 that ". . . . his truth endureth to all generations," and Jesus said in John 17:17 that God's WORD is truth.
So God's word is promised to be available to us and God has promised to preserve it for us: There MUST be an infallible Book somewhere.
Not all of the variations are the Word of God because the various translations contain different readings, and God is not the author of confusion (I Cor. 14:33).
In Revelation it warns about adding and subtracting from the word of god.
here is some stuff link below:
So how are we to trust an English Bible?
The Authorized Version Was Translated Under A God-Ordained English King
Ecclesiastes 8:4 says, "Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?" Unlike the modern versions, the KJV was translated under a king. In fact, the king's name was "James," which is the English word for "Jacob," whom God renamed "Israel," because he had power with God and with men (Gen. 32:28).
Because It Has No Copyright
The original crown copyright of 1611 does not forbid anyone today from reprinting the Authorized Version. It was only copyrighted then for the purpose of allowing the printer to finance the publication. For nearly four hundred years now we have been printing millions of copies of KJV's without requesting permission from anyone. Over eight-hundred million copies of the Authorized Version have been printed without anyone paying royalties. This cannot be said of any of the new translations.
The new "bibles" are the work of MEN, but the KJV is a divine work of the Holy Spirit. The term "Authorized" has traditionally been applied to the King James Version alone, for this is the one Book which the Holy Spirit has blessed and used for so long. The fact that it bears no copyright allows printing ministries throughout the world to print millions of copies each year for the mission field. I know the King James Bible is the word of God because it has no copyright.
Some copy /paste stuff in there from this site. If you really wanna read it here:
http://www.av1611.org/kjv/knowkjv.html
Because i could go to the work to explain it or copy and paste all of that and you not even read it! lol.
Again, this is my belief.
mountain muscle said:WOW. No need to ask anything more of you, except...
Does the holy spirit have a stamp of approval? How exactly do you know this?
What do you think about previous versions? Your reasoning is, so far, so completely unreasonable and indoctrinated that I really don't want to hear anymore of your justifications.
I'll end with this. The bible is absolute fiction, used to control people. It was effective in doing so for an unimaginable amount of time, for certain people. Belief in the fiction, in this day and age, should be unimaginable were it not for the multitudes that still do, without reason.
mountain muscle said:WOW. No need to ask anything more of you, except...
Does the holy spirit have a stamp of approval? How exactly do you know this?
What do you think about previous versions? Your reasoning is, so far, so completely unreasonable and indoctrinated that I really don't want to hear anymore of your justifications.
I'll end with this. The bible is absolute fiction, used to control people. It was effective in doing so for an unimaginable amount of time, for certain people. Belief in the fiction, in this day and age, should be unimaginable were it not for the multitudes that still do, without reason.
cindylou said:yes his stamp of approval is the works from the bible called the fruit ; and also if I'm unreasonable and indoctrinated why do you keep asking me questions if you dont want to hear my justifications?
I know my belief on this is unpopular. I'm used to this.
I am not trying to get you angry or riled or try and get you to believe what I believe. You have rejected what I belive and that is fine.
Thanks for the discussion ; I have to go now its Friday and I'm looking forward to going out. Have a good weekend.
cindylou said:yes his stamp of approval is the works from the bible called the fruit ; and also if I'm unreasonable and indoctrinated why do you keep asking me questions if you dont want to hear my justifications?
I know my belief on this is unpopular. I'm used to this.
I am not trying to get you angry or riled or try and get you to believe what I believe. You have rejected what I belive and that is fine.
Thanks for the discussion ; I have to go now its Friday and I'm looking forward to going out. Have a good weekend.
heatherrae said:Even my diehard Catholic stepmother who wanted to take us all to Yugoslavia during a war because some little girl claimed to have visions of the Virgin Mary has come around to saying that the bible can't be literally interpreted. I nearly fainted. I think literal creationism is on the outs even in the most religious circles.
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