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Any Cisco certs out there?
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THeMaCHinE
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I work for a startup company building wireless solutions.
Right now, with the downturn of the economy, no companies are spending any money on new technology, however, when these companies start spending again, wireless integration is number 1 on their list.
Also, the wireless technology is starting to get awesome and high speed networks will be out a short period of time. When the networks get faster then the possibilites will be endless!!
One more thing, if you look at alot or the startups getting funding right now, alot of them are related to wireless.
The Doc
Right now, with the downturn of the economy, no companies are spending any money on new technology, however, when these companies start spending again, wireless integration is number 1 on their list.
Also, the wireless technology is starting to get awesome and high speed networks will be out a short period of time. When the networks get faster then the possibilites will be endless!!
One more thing, if you look at alot or the startups getting funding right now, alot of them are related to wireless.
The Doc
JohnnyO
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haha .. get your ccna first, THEN send in your resume and then you can say I refered you.
You can email me at work if you want .. [email protected]
You can email me at work if you want .. [email protected]
Delinquent
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getting my ccna in about a year, working on a+, net+, novell, and msce right now. Would like to get the elusive ccie eventually.
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Latimer
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I'm taking the CCNA exam in about a month and the Network+ shortly after. Thinking about picking up an A+ after that for the hell of it. Then hopefully it's on to MCSE and CCNP. I'll probably start studying for the MCSE pretty soon but the CCNP is going to take some time and experience.
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Latimer
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ccie6679, did you have a bunch of headhunters calling you immediately after you got your CCIE?
I don't see how any of these certifications can be hot right now. People with these certifications rely heavily on the economy of tech companies which is horrible right now. I see to much downsizing going on and it seems like these people are the first to go.
However, a good software engineer will always have work regardless of the state of the economy.
However, a good software engineer will always have work regardless of the state of the economy.
bigbusdriver
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working on my ccnp right now to. any ead hunters looking ???? tired of driving a freakin school bus
Parabellum
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Security is definitely the way to go. VoIP is starting to make a little noise too. But you can never go wrong with Security.
The market is a little dry right now. I have my CCNA, CCDA, working on my CCNP (1 out of 4), MCSE. I'm currently employed by an ISP and get my "hands on", which is what everyone is really looking for.
Certifications do open more doors for you. In most companies it's a prerequisite. They prefer certified people because it shows that you are teachable.
I think the problem with the market is that it is flooded with paper certs who just can't back themselves up.
You can only get so much out of a book.
The market is a little dry right now. I have my CCNA, CCDA, working on my CCNP (1 out of 4), MCSE. I'm currently employed by an ISP and get my "hands on", which is what everyone is really looking for.
Certifications do open more doors for you. In most companies it's a prerequisite. They prefer certified people because it shows that you are teachable.
I think the problem with the market is that it is flooded with paper certs who just can't back themselves up.
You can only get so much out of a book.
Sassy69
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I have a lot of "old school" programming education & experience (C/C++, OOD, etc.), did the college route - MSCS, then got an MBA to get out of programming. I don't want to program any more, I learned most of my web development on my own and I work in the service provider industry. Want to get more into network components because this just looks more promising in the future. Don't want to go back to college (AGAIN) but I don't have the sys admin / network exp. it would take to jump back into the tech side w/o doing more programming.
Wireless networks just looks damn good to me. VOIP - worked in that field 2 years ago - that's going to take a little more of a sales pitch because the only market right now is overseas calls or new companies who dont' have to replace installed equipment. Security DEFINITELY. So many opportunities!
Wireless networks just looks damn good to me. VOIP - worked in that field 2 years ago - that's going to take a little more of a sales pitch because the only market right now is overseas calls or new companies who dont' have to replace installed equipment. Security DEFINITELY. So many opportunities!
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decem
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MCSE and MCDBA. no certs are worth a shit unless you have the experience to go with it. for those of you who are busy wasting money on transcender and examcrams and boot camps - get in the industry first. start at the bottom. see if you can do an internship somewhere. otherwise you're gonna have a real pretty piece of toilet paper and that's it.
Sassy,
I just picked up my CCDP (also have CCNP, MCSE CNA, A+). I'm taking the CCIE written soon - and want to do the lab by the end of the year.
Network security never gets old. Networks never get smaller and they never need less security. Along those same lines is why wireless has limitations. Right now, wireless degrades in bad weather. This may be oversome, but you can;t overcome the fact that I can sit on the roof with a mini-dish and intercept your data. This is an exaggeration to make a point but wireless has big security issues.
Look into fiber optics. Few people really understand this medium well - yet everyoine wants it. It supports monster throughput and is virtually impervious to data stealing. Yet few people understand it. The optical Internet is the future and even mighty Cisco is behind (they are handicapped in a sense by needing to service their gigantic installed base.)
Get Cisco certs. They are valuable. But a good fiber optic cable installer - someone who knows optical really really well - can make as much $ as they want.
I just picked up my CCDP (also have CCNP, MCSE CNA, A+). I'm taking the CCIE written soon - and want to do the lab by the end of the year.
Network security never gets old. Networks never get smaller and they never need less security. Along those same lines is why wireless has limitations. Right now, wireless degrades in bad weather. This may be oversome, but you can;t overcome the fact that I can sit on the roof with a mini-dish and intercept your data. This is an exaggeration to make a point but wireless has big security issues.
Look into fiber optics. Few people really understand this medium well - yet everyoine wants it. It supports monster throughput and is virtually impervious to data stealing. Yet few people understand it. The optical Internet is the future and even mighty Cisco is behind (they are handicapped in a sense by needing to service their gigantic installed base.)
Get Cisco certs. They are valuable. But a good fiber optic cable installer - someone who knows optical really really well - can make as much $ as they want.
Natasan,
Got my CISSP in Feb. Nice thing to have on the resume. Once you get it be sure to post in ISC2.org directory. You will get lots of calls from headhunters. I am on the Advisory Legal BOard for ISC2, looks like an up and coming cert, but right now, filled with non-techies
On a side note, CCIe exam is changing. Lab will be one day in the future with extended hours. Written is expected to be toughened as well
Got my CISSP in Feb. Nice thing to have on the resume. Once you get it be sure to post in ISC2.org directory. You will get lots of calls from headhunters. I am on the Advisory Legal BOard for ISC2, looks like an up and coming cert, but right now, filled with non-techies
On a side note, CCIe exam is changing. Lab will be one day in the future with extended hours. Written is expected to be toughened as well
Parabellum
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Hey MATT do you know anyone hiring in NY? I'm looking to get out of the company I work for.
ccie6679 said:
I'm moving to Houston next May (gf goes to school there, probably get married shortly after graduation) - I've seen quite a few companies that look pretty damn good. I'd like to get involved with Razor at BindView possibly. Opinions?
I also have some questions for ya dealing with the ICS2 and Code of Ethics. I'll shoot you an email this afternoon. If you can reply (take your time, I'm actually going out of town this weekend) I'd appreciate it.
Parabellum
I'll send you a PM this weekend.
I'll send you a PM this weekend.
FreakMonster
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I wonder what you have to do to become a fiber optic cable installer?
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Warik
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I don't know anything about these types of certs, but I will quote what my friend who is project lead at his company told me about MS certs.
Him: "Dude if I see any MCSE or any of that shit on the resume I move the guy at the bottom of the pile. Microsoft gives those things away. If the guy doesn't have Cisco, I don't want him."
My friend who has a few MS certifications has told me that the tests were a joke. If I decided to go get any certifications, I'd surely go with Cisco.
-Warik
Him: "Dude if I see any MCSE or any of that shit on the resume I move the guy at the bottom of the pile. Microsoft gives those things away. If the guy doesn't have Cisco, I don't want him."
My friend who has a few MS certifications has told me that the tests were a joke. If I decided to go get any certifications, I'd surely go with Cisco.
-Warik
Onenameleft
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I'm a CCNP and a CCDP, and taking the qualification exam for the CCIE lab on Monday. Hopefully CCIE by the first of next year depending on how backed up the lab is.. (and how long it takes me to pass it
No comments from you, CCIE6679.
No comments from you, CCIE6679.
Parabellum
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Anyone studying for their CCIE?
Parabellum
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The tech market is there. It's just changed it's focus on experienced multi-talent vs single talent. Multi = Cisco, Unix, MS, etc.. Numerous skill sets coupled with above average experience.
They all stopped feeding off the bottom of the barrel.
Paper certs dreaming of making a fortune in IT have gone back to whatever their chosen field was before the make a HUGE SALARY $$$ IT boom.
You should see some of the people I worked with, COMPLETE idiots. I was amazed they even knew how to urn a PC on and most were MCSE's!
Dial_tone; You Can Do ANything You Put Your Mind Too! Botom line most people are too lazy to put forth the effort, that's why we have teh massess of asses.
Good Luck!
They all stopped feeding off the bottom of the barrel.
Paper certs dreaming of making a fortune in IT have gone back to whatever their chosen field was before the make a HUGE SALARY $$$ IT boom.
You should see some of the people I worked with, COMPLETE idiots. I was amazed they even knew how to urn a PC on and most were MCSE's!
Dial_tone; You Can Do ANything You Put Your Mind Too! Botom line most people are too lazy to put forth the effort, that's why we have teh massess of asses.
Good Luck!
Parabellum
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Dial_Tone and all ou techies out there take a look ata book called "From Serf to surfer" Excellent eye opener!
It works you just have to put for the the proper effort everyday.
It works you just have to put for the the proper effort everyday.
Sassy69 said:What's the tech future look like for wireless networks? Thinking of getting my CCNA, get out internet marketing and head into wireless...
Anyone have their finger on the pulse of the industry?
Hey Sassy, I worked for Cisco for quite awhile, recently left to have a life. I have all Cisco has to offer in certs, and used to instruct their internal SE's (Systems Engineers) in CCNA, CCNP, and CCIE courses, as well as the VOIP and Wireless. I have many Wireless Certifications as well. There is ALOT of wireless going on out there right now, and I do a bunch of it. But knowing wireless is the easy part, the Security side of it is playing the huge role. Wireless has only moved as slowly as it has since Cisco purchased AiroNet cause of Security concerns in the Enterprise. Knowing the security is becoming a pre-requisite these days, where routing and switching used to be the foundation for everything, almost seems secondary now.
For the poster in TAC, you and I must have passed the IE the same week, we are just a few tic's off from each other....RTP ??
Indy
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Kakdiesel
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um..wow..what an old thread..and by the way all you wireless fucks..thanks for the brain tumor in twenty years.
Pervis Ellison said:um..wow..what an old thread..and by the way all you wireless fucks..thanks for the brain tumor in twenty years.
It's only microwaves, it wont give you a tumor, it will just eventually kill the cells, so worry about a slow death, and you'll be dumb as a box of rocks when it happens
you're welcome
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Kakdiesel
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Wireless technology = Devil's work
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Kakdiesel
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i know im joking bro..but i hate cars too. buy a hybrid. you're grandkids will thank you. Right after they thank you for their 4 oz. brain and third eyeball
certs are not the way to go in my opinion. I'm an IT professional with 5 years of experience at a fortune 500 (wireless company even). The certs are ok, don't hurt, but won't make a candidate hireable alone. Your work in a related field helps, but a good thing to do would try to get some IT support job in the network operations center of a large company. You don't need much experience at all to start and you can really learn a lot hands on that way which ends up being much more enticing to prospective employers.
Lestat said:
True to a point, but the certs talk. I am called in for many of these Fortune 500 companies to do the tech interviews on their candidates. No paper, no talk is what many companies say. I have spoke to many great candidates without certs, good time on the job, but today is the day of the cert, they want to see the discipline. You can arge with me, but I have been doing it 3 times longer than you and was with Cisco during it's growing stages of taking over the earth. I have worked with auto repair businesses, to local governements, to the Pentagon and Home Land Security. I have truely seen every aspect of the IT busines, have spoke on it myself. Having dinner with John Chambers and Bill Gates before presenting to Chief of Homeland Security and Mayor Guliani post 9/11 was a highlight in my career, and being chosen for that, told me I was on top of my game.
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